information Dan’s Open Domain Distribution Network will integrate into the Afternic DLS Network.

[NickB]

Email from DAN below......

Hi there,

In December 2021, Dan released the Open Domain Distribution Network (ODDN). Upon the release of this network, many users requested integration into the Afternic DLS Network as well. We worked hard on optimizing the network and are delighted to announce that from the 10th of November, the ODDN will integrate into the Afternic DLS Network.

What does this mean for you?
All Dan users currently opted in for the ODDN will notice their inventory automatically integrate into the Afternic DLS Network. You are not required to set up an additional account to enjoy the benefits of this greater exposure.

If you are not opted in yet, you can still integrate! Simply head to your general settings > Integrations > List my domains on Dan.com & Afternic’s Distribution Network. This step will ensure that your entire portfolio gets more exposure through the advantage of the network.

Prefer to opt-in only part of your portfolio? This can be done in two different ways:

1. You can enable the network on individual domains by going to your My Domains section. Find the domain name that you want to opt into the network and scroll to the right. The table allocated to Afternic allows you to activate your listing with a mere click on the listing symbol.
2. You can enable domain names in bulk by selecting all names involved in your My Domains section. Once selected, the bottom window will show a banner. Click on Distribute to activate your listings.

Please note that if you already have your domains listed on Afternic, then those listings will take precedence, and the Dan integration listing will be ignored by Afternic.

Lastly, no changes will take place with regard to the commission or processing of your sales because of this integration. The same team here at Dan will process any domain name sold for you, and the ODDN commission is still the same 20% flat fee.

 

[Embrand]

Great news. I wonder if this also includes Fast Transfer as I see no mention of this.

Edit: It does say "Afternic DLS Network", so I guess so.

 

[NickB]

If you are not listing your domains in USD then be careful - I list in GBP on DAN so will not be using this feature.....

" All EUR & GBP listings will be listed in USD, without any currency conversion, on the Distribution Network. You can also exclude certain domains via the portfolio manager."

 

[karmaco]

The open distribution will be ignored if your names are allready on Afternic so they are forcing a one or the other type of choice.

 

[NickB]

The open distribution will be ignored if your names are allready on Afternic so they are forcing a one or the other type of choice.

Don't think it's forcing .....You still have a choice as you have to opt in.....I chose DAN for GBP pricing and cheaper commission and that's why the majority of my domains on Afternic are at make offer......so I don't need to do anything and can safely ignore this

Unless they change it again in the future and automatically opt you in - never say never when it comes to Godaddy or their Brands.....

 

[karmaco]

Don't think it's forcing .....You still have a choice as you have to opt in.....I chose DAN for GBP pricing and cheaper commission and that's why the majority of my domains on Afternic are at make offer......so I don't need to do anything and can safely ignore this

Unless they change it again in the future and automatically opt you in - never say never when it comes to Godaddy or their Brands.....

I don’t know. It clearly states if your domains are allready in the Afternic network the DAN network will be ignored. It doesn’t specify if thats only on names with BIN or not.
There is a commission difference so it will matter to some.

 

[karmaco]

This is the full article. Email never includes the full blog

https://medium.com/undeveloped/dan-com-product-update-7-5a4442955b15

 

[lennco]

So if we Opt in do we lose our 9% commission rate at Dan?

 

[Rhinnnn]

So if we Opt in do we lose our 9% commission rate at Dan?

Only if a sale is made via Afternic's distribution network. If a domain sells directly on Dan the 9% commission still applies.

 

[DomainNature]

This is very good, because I was lazy to do it on Afternic, their UI is too complicated to manage, but of course you can master Afternic, but I just did not had time, Dan seems easier to manage.

 

[lennco]

Only if a sale is made via Afternic's distribution network. If a domain sells directly on Dan the 9% commission still applies.

It would be nice if they stated it that way.

Not to sound too paranoid but how do we know if an offer starts on Dan it doesn't then come through on the sellers end on the Afternic platform? And then having to pay the 20% commission. Asking for a friend.

 

[carob]

Great news. I wonder if this also includes Fast Transfer as I see no mention of this.

Edit: It does say "Afternic DLS Network", so I guess so.

Hi it does not sound like Dan.com domains on the Afternic network have fast transfer enabled or even available, because Dan say this:

Lastly, no changes will take place with regards to the commission or processing of your sales because of this update. The same team here at Dan will process any domain name sold for you and the Open Domain Distribution Network (ODDN) commission is still the same 20% flat fee.

Whereas up till now with fast transfer the sale is processed at Afternic, unless the arrangement with Dan.com covers that. In any case for fast transfer to work you have to approve that at the domain's registrar and you can see in the Afternic interface whether domains listed in an Afternic account have fast transfer enabled.

Some clarification from Dan would help - is there no fast transfer via Dan? Can we expect that later?

 

[zomainhacks]

It doesn't seem a good deal opting in with the 20% flat fee. Standard Afternic fee is more convenient:

https://www.afternic.com/sell-domains

 

[NameInbox]

It's only product update #7
Most comments on twitter are negative
I'm afraid to think what will be next ...

 

[bmugford]

It doesn't seem a good deal opting in with the 20% flat fee. Standard Afternic fee is more convenient:
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https://www.afternic.com/sell-domains

Why would someone list them through Dan.com ODDN if the fee was higher than just listing them on Afternic directly?

Brad

 

[bmugford]

It's only product update #7
Most comments on twitter are negative
I'm afraid to think what will be next ...


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I use Dan.com landers now and have largely been satisfied, but if GoDaddy raises the current fees or makes it so I can no longer handle my own leads and negotiation, I will find another option for the landers.

Right now I have a mix of priced and unpriced domains. Most of the priced ones are listed on Afternic.

I am not giving up my leads on unpriced domains. I am also not willing to do all the work, and pay a higher fee.

I hope GoDaddy realizes there are a lot people in the same boat. Dan fills a role to capture leads that GoDaddy would likely not get via Afternic. A lot of people are not willing to hand over their leads, negotiation, AND pay a 20% fee.

Brad

 

[Digital Nomad]

I use Dan.com landers now and have largely been satisfied, but if GoDaddy raises the current fees or makes it so I can no longer handle my own leads and negotiation, I will find another option for the landers.

Right now I have a mix of priced and unpriced domains. Most of the priced ones are listed on Afternic.

I am not giving up my leads on unpriced domains. I am also not willing to do all the work, and pay a higher fee.

I hope GoDaddy realizes there are a lot people in the same boat. Dan fills a role to capture leads that GoDaddy would likely not get via Afternic. A lot of people are not willing to hand over their leads, negotiation, AND pay a 20% fee.

Brad

I still remember feeling bad when GD bought DAN thinking they will raise the commission.

 

[NameInbox]

I still remember feeling bad when GD bought DAN thinking they will raise the commission, it is only a matter of time I guess.

Feeling like this? =)

 

[jamesau]

Hopefully this can end the charade of trying to 'activate' domains into the fast-transfer network.

Trying to trigger that email has been an ongoing battle for the last few years.

90% of my inventory is under $25k so at least that can simplify a lot.

Anything over that mark can manage in Afternic.

 

[matj]

I recently deactivated my domains for the Afternic Distribution Network in my DAN account. I was too quick to pull the trigger without thinking about the issue with higher commission rate on higher priced domains.

The issue I am having is that after deactivating this option, all domains are still displaying as being active and all previous pricing still shows on the network ie. Afternic, GoDaddy, Dynadot etc. Removing pricing from within my DAN account made no difference. Prices still display across the network.

Anyone else experiencing the same issue? Seems really buggy...

 

[xcloud123]

Godaddify

 

[markfromslo]

I list my names at both Afternic and Dan.com. I list my names at Afternic about 10% higher than at Dan. All my names point to sales landers at Dan. It's worked extremely well.

But I just looked at my portfolio at DAN and all the names say "Already listed (listing failure)" and the tooltip tells me that mean they are already listed at Afternic so they cannot be listed at Dan. WTF? My DAN sales landers are still working though.

Can anyone explain this?

 

[Reddstagg]

I list my names at both Afternic and Dan.com. I list my names at Afternic about 10% higher than at Dan. All my names point to sales landers at Dan. It's worked extremely well.

But I just looked at my portfolio at DAN and all the names say "Already listed (listing failure)" and the tooltip tells me that mean they are already listed at Afternic so they cannot be listed at Dan. WTF? My DAN sales landers are still working though.

Can anyone explain this?

Can anyone explain this? - Probably. Will anyone explain this? - NO!!!

I get the impression that none of the companies who take money from Domain Name Investors one way or another don't actually care about Domain Name Investors. Should they? - Probably.

You'd think that in a forum that has over 1 million members (whether active or not) there would be better communication regarding these upgrades.

I was puzzled for a couple of days as I could see links to Afternic on my GD cash parking names through Dan but this was before the very minor announcement of the new upgrade.

It should have been much clearer from the start.

I have no computer programming/developing background but I'm sure I could do a better job on a computer from the 1980s.

Is anyone listening or watching these threads/forums? Probably not. Should they be? - Absolutely.

I live in hope.

Rgrds,

Reddstagg

 

[lennco]

and the tooltip tells me that mean they are already listed at Afternic so they cannot be listed at Dan. WTF?

That sounds like they are forcing domain sellers to integrate both platforms in order to use both platforms.
Sounds like they don't want sellers to have a 20% commission on one and a 9% commission on the other.

That is why I feel like if you integrate them both then any offer that starts on Dan may come through the Afternic end and we are forced to pay 20% instead of 9%
I don't know that for a fact but it just feels like that is what could be happening.

Thoughts?

 

[markfromslo]

That sounds like they are forcing domain sellers to integrate both platforms in order to use both platforms.
Sounds like they don't want sellers to have a 20% commission on one and a 9% commission on the other.

That is why I feel like if you integrate them both then any offer that starts on Dan may come through the Afternic end and we are forced to pay 20% instead of 9%
I don't know that for a fact but it just feels like that is what could be happening.

Thoughts?

I am talking Dan on chat. I can still have separate pricing for Afternic and Dan. To do this, I would NOT opt in to the Afternic Distribution on Dan's Setting>Integrations page. I will still enjoy Afternic's distribution program because I have the name listed in Afternic as well. In other words, things continue to work as they have for me

The benefit of opting IN to the Afternic Distribution on Dan's Setting>Integrations page would be convenience of having one portfolio to maintain (I have a lot of names). And apparently there are fields to be able manage a separate price for Afternic sales. The downside they told me is that the Afternic pricing is only BIN (for now, they said). But for me, I do every name BIN.

But sometimes I wonder how much that 10% difference in pricing even matters. I still sell at least half my names through Afternic, even though keying the domain name into the browser address bar would show the buyer a lower price than at Afternic--yet they pay more anyway. Is it a high trust level? Is it that buyers are often idiots and don't even key the name into the address bar to see what comes up?