Customers - Cheaters

[Leming]

Hey guys!

I'm designer and as you know sometimes we got customers that takes our time but have no willing to pay for it.
I got idea - lets share cheaters to be protected in future.

I starting yahoo and google group [Client Rating]
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ClientRating
http://groups.google.com/group/ClientRating

I think that in some months we will have the huge list of cheaters and anyone who will join the groups would be able to check the customer before cooperation started.

I'm planning to post my black list on these groups today/tomorrow - just need to update contact info of cheaters

I hope it will be usable for all freelance designers/programmers.

Let's start hunting!

 

[ammo]

I love that idea. Im thinking about getting into the designing buissness soon so it will be a great resource, adding to my bookmarks!

 

[jstep]

if one effective black list could be made it would be very useful

like: name/username/where (what forums) etc.

 

[Leming]

Ok, guys.
First cheaters posted!
Lets keep the list updated and it will work for us!

 

[donlee]

well lets not forget the other end of the spectrum, what about designers who take our money and run, or waste our time when we stick around to give them our time and effort and half way through the project they give up. I personally have lost almost 1800 to designers since November of last year, after hiring 9 designers, i have had ONE who completely finished their project. So just remember there are two sides to the street

oh yeah, and just to help you out, do not forget the legal ramifications of and recourse of these so called "cheaters". If you do not have hard proof, and are stating opinion rather than fact, you are opening yourself up to LIBEL.
I am just stating this to help you protect yourselves, nothing more. But here is the federal statute and definition against LIBEL.

"The unwarranted appropriation or exploitation of one’s personality, THE PUBLICIZING OF ONE'S PRIVATE AFFAIRS WITH WHICH THE PUBLIC HAS NO LEGITIMATE CONCERN, or the WRONGFUL INTRUSION INTO ONE'S PERSONAL ACTIVITIES, in such manner as to outrage or cause mental suffering, shame, or humiliation to a person of ordinary sensibilities."

I am by no means trying to protect anyone who cheats their customer ( or their employer ) i am simply trying to give some additional insight to some of you who might be young or inexperienced and save you some trouble. Good luck.

 

[Leming]

Donlee, thank you!
May be I will start groups for rate designers and programmers just will see how will grow up these groups.

About liability - group owner not responsible for actions of members, but anyway I will moderate it and will forward messages to customers, so they always can reply to threads if they wants.

 

[crazyluv]

Both sound like good ideas, I think most people would like to check the reps of customers or businesses although they will be prone to abuse especially the latter. Still with good planning it should work well.

 

[Leming]

crazyluv, I hope we can create huge database of clients with reps

 

[jamkid]

And what if someone wants to destroy someone elses reputation? Just my two cents...

 

[Leming]

jamkid, I will forward messages to clients, so they can always post reply.
I think in this way we will piss out guys that just want to destroy someone rep.