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I'm stil relatively new when it comes to web design. I've been hearing a lot of buzz about CSS being the next best thing since sliced bread and it's all we will be using soon. However, I've heard others say "to heck with that, HTML is here forever."

Do you think CSS is the new wave, or is it overated and should be used "when needed"?
 
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CSS is a bit harder to understand when one is just getting started in webdesign. However, I see it everywhere now, and I like the websites created with CSS for their elegance, quick loading, and ease of separation of design from content. I think CSS is here to stay, and will eventually become standard for any real development.
 
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HTML is the basis of all online languages so that is here to stay, i tihnk css will become widley used as more and more people are able to design sites now days. i have learn't the basics and some *advanced* css in a few days so it is easy too learn, eg to postion someting:


Code:
#item  {
   position:absolte;
  left: 100px;
top: 500px;
}

i belive css is here for the long term and will become a brilliant partner to html, as it already is

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css is sweet. i love it and try to use as much of it as i can in my designs due to its fast loading times and less coding involved. learn it - and learn it fast!
 
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html and css both have its place

CSS speeds things up when loading, as html slows it down with all the tables ect. But you need both to make a good site.

Both are here to stay
 
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50-50 is the way to go, I couldn't imagine doing any website without CSS, it just makes it so much easier to build and modify a site.

I just recently started learning the advanced stuff, now I can't get enough of it. I just wish IE would pick up the pace so I can start making sites like this:

(warning, don't look at this page with IE)
http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/complexspiral/demo.html
 
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Rowan W said:
50-50 is the way to go, I couldn't imagine doing any website without CSS, it just makes it so much easier to build and modify a site.
I agree completely.
 
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HMM, I think it depends on the site itself. The content, and how you use it!

CSS can be very useful at times, but at others it makes no sence to use it. I personaly like it, but find little places to use it!
 
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I don't use css,except when I get templats and but I like it and would really like to learn more of it
 
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yes I agree that css is here to help and stay.
 
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Being I designer I understand CSS and XHTML layout a lot more. It makes much more sense how to use it without using so much code to display what you need. just think of everything as boxes and use padding instead of spacers.

Took a week or two to get to grips with it (worth getting a decent book on the subject) but was well worth it.

CSS to me seems much more of a designers layout tool , I leave all the programming to a programmer and the design to me.
 
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majinbuu1023 said:
I don't use css,except when I get templats and but I like it and would really like to learn more of it

One place that I used (for css and more) to learn it (a little), is http://www.w3schools.com

They don't give complete detail, but it's definitely a good place to start.

I'm also trying to learn PHP... didn't work so well learning PHP there, but I'm just starting out.
 
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CSS I would have to say has already been the larger thing with most professional developers. Although a good population still doesn't use it, I believe that most professional web designers have seen it's advantages and used them.

CSS seperates design from content, which is a key feature. It also provides for a nice and organized way to style a website without the use of complex tables, hence speeding up the load time.

If you haven't begin to use CSS I recommend that you do. It takes a few days to learn, and about a month to completely adapt to.
 
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css is an imp. part of webdesign.. a true webdesigner cant do design without css ... css means faster loading speed... cool design and lots time save for changes..

i cant imagine a design without css :)
 
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EricH said:
CSS being the next best thing since sliced bread and it's all we will be using soon. However, I've heard others say "to heck with that, HTML is here forever."

Wait a minute... am I the only person here who uses HTML for layout - ie:
Code:
<table>
    <tr>
        <td class="welcome">Hello!</td>
    </tr>
</table>

and css for styles:

Code:
.welcome{
     text-align: center;
     color: #000000;
     background: #000006;
}

ie: am I the only person who uses BOTH?

Do you mean adding styles in WITH the HTML?

like:
Code:
<span style="color: blue;text-align: center;font-family: arial"></span>

I think the thing is that with CSS you don't have to wade through loads of HTML to find the place you want to change! :)
 
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i tend to just use html and only use css for the widths and heights, plus colours/...
 
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I never have used cdd cos I don't know how :(
 
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PoorDoggie said:
Wait a minute... am I the only person here who uses HTML for layout - ie:
Code:
<table>
    <tr>
        <td class="welcome">Hello!</td>
    </tr>
</table>

and css for styles:

Code:
.welcome{
     text-align: center;
     color: #000000;
     background: #000006;
}

ie: am I the only person who uses BOTH?

Do you mean adding styles in WITH the HTML?

like:
Code:
<span style="color: blue;text-align: center;font-family: arial"></span>

I think the thing is that with CSS you don't have to wade through loads of HTML to find the place you want to change! :)

I think most people go through a transitional phase like that when they start to learn css. The next stage and to start making true css sites is to also use the css for layout.
 
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imo...css and html will compliment eah other :)
 
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Is the loading speed actually faster with CSS? Or is it just an effiecient and flexible web designing tool? Have a look at this view taken from http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum83/9.htm

The Whole Speed Controversy
Many tutorials claim that CSS will speed up page display and/or loading. While it might be true for someone using huge sheets, I find the whole speed up issue to be less than truthful.

The most important visit to a website is the users first - the page must load as fast as possible at that time. If your site lives and dies off raw foot traffic, speed isn't everything, it is the only thing. A good friend of mine is former pro poker player turned webmaster who sums it up this way; speed trumps all.

Getting excessive with Style Sheets, could cost you some first time hits as users leave before the sheet is loaded. If you are on a picky or congested server, the time required for a browser to request and load an external style sheet, could be the extra time that breaks your site.

I do grant, that you can gain a little of that back on successive pages as the browser won't be required to request the sheet again.
 
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