Labeled as .co in ccTLD Discussion started by SDX, Apr 9, 2009.
Excellent, good job 3d
Heart Internet is £5.99 if any one wants to be at a UK registrar.
i just hand reg this DISCOUNTFARES.CO. happy with this one.
The rest at this point are pretty much reg. fee. But not much of a risk if you don't have a problem dropping them. No one here has a crystal ball. You might be able to make something out of the rest but statictically, they don't look so good. Of course with development, you can pretty much do whatever.
Discountfares.co That's a pretty good hand reg.
You guys are going really ape with the .co domains... Im thinking its going to backfire.
Thanks emjohn & johnname
.. feels good to be playing with house money now
i instantly renewed a nice amount of dot co's taking some of the burden off of July...
.. so then i treated myself to another OOTB:
The "backfiring" point already passed a couple months ago. .co has notoriety and an excellent marketing infrastructure AND a long-term plan.
If you have the skill of registering or buying outright great names, there is no problem. The problem is if you don't understand where the market is at and begin registering nonesense without some solid reasoning behind it.
All the skill in the world doesn't help when any names worthwhile are already registered. Buying aftermarket is the only option at this point. However, it will cost you more money thus increasing the risk.
I completely agree with this thinking. There is money to be made in every new extension, you just have to be sure you know what you're going and not just getting a .co for the sake of getting a .co
I 'invested' $180 in .co, sold passenger / old car / auto rental for $5.4k approx - so I made a killing and still have two left (shrimp & quarry), but after that I haven't seen anything I like or can sell for a reasonable profit, so have stayed away.
Auto rental was the big sale at $5k, but the same .com would cost $5mm, so that 1/1000th (0.1%) of the value of .com - keep that in mind when you register something.
If its worth $30k or less in .com, it isn't even worth reg fee in .co atm and I don't expect the future to be much different for a fair span of time.
As for the rest, its your money, burn it, bury it or go register .co's where the .com is available, you won't be the first, .asia pumpers have already been burned in the last two years, as have 'pro new extension' guys for the last 12 years or so.
I consider myself an 'extension agnostic' and believe that keywords make money, not extensions and I haven't been proved wrong till now. If .co was the next .com you wouldn't have people who got sweetheart deals (Mike Mann) from the .co registry to be selling their entire super premium collection (sedo .co auction is mostly his domains) so soon.
There are still some good hand regs., but no one should expect to find them that easily. It takes a lot of work.
As .co popularity increases, there will be more good hand registrations, but this only happens over time and in increments. What I'm saying it's not valuable to reg 100 nonesense names at this point. A couple of well sought out good ones will do. Then maybe try the process again in a couple weeks.
Since market demand always fluctuates and is not static, there will always be a few good hand regs. in a new extension. There is a long time before .co reaches saturation, which, IMO, is around 10,000,000.
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I understand what you are saying. However, I think autorental.com would not sell for 5 million. I think it's more in the 500,000 range. CarRental.com would be around $1 mill. At this point in time.
I think autorental.co , at this time, is worth more than $5K, but I think you did well, in any case.
You make a very good point about the left side of the dot and the right side of the dot. It used to be all about the left side of the dot and now it's shifting to the right. Essentially the right is becoming as important as the left. .com, .co, .tv are currently the best extensions, IMO. There will be a glut of other extensions coming out in the next few years ie .so, .shop, .xxx, .berlin etc but most will be fringe or niche specific at best. .com, .co and .tv are all internationally recognizable and this gives them pervasive staying power, and worldwide interest. .org will hold it's own because of the non-profit association, but the most internationally respected extensions, commercially, will continue to be .com, .co and .tv.
That's a scary sentence :o
I highly doubt .co will ever come close to that many registrations. But out of all names that will be registered, 90 percent are likely to be losers.
It's the new extention game and .co isn't an exception IMO. Fill the balloon with hype and eventually watch it burst.
When you consider .com has 90,000,000 registrations and 20% are junk, well it ain't that scary.
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"I.CO was sold for $38,000" Huh?
Just a guess, but I think your ad may be removed from this thread.
I must say that I had a few .co domains on eBay before the Super Bowl and have them now again, and although didn't sell anything the number of views has doubled this time.
Is that a good sign?
So that means that (90,000,000 taken .com's - 650,000 taken .co's = ) 89,350,000 of all currently taken .com's are worthless?
Not sure how you arrive at 20% but lets assume you're right. That means 18 million .com are junk. That's a load of money wasted on a scale that large.
You also have to consider that .com is recognized all over the world as the "go to" extention. Therefore names of less quality are used for development purposes simply because they have .com behind them.
Now consider that, for most people in the world, .co won't see the light of day. Maybe a small portion of the best .co will be developed into something worthwhile. That still doesn't mean the average joe will ever hear about them.
Out of the folks simply buying to flip, very very few will make a profit. I can almost guarantee that in 2 years you'll be looking at this thread, or a similar thread, while scratching your head wondering what happened to .co.
It's only my opinion of course but the track record of alternate extensions to .com is factual. They all fail in comparison and many people lose money with them.
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That logic is beyond flawed. Your basing your math on the fact that .co is somehow on the same level as .com. Therefore you think 90 million .co are worth registering when in reality not even 1 million .co are worth registering.
That's your arbitrary assumption. As Samit suggested, let's consider a .CO domain is currently worth a fair 1/1000th of the equivalent .com. Since you're stating that all of the available .CO's are currently worth reg fee or less ($20), basically you're saying that all of the other 89,000,000 taken .com's are worth $20,000 or less. If you think none of the available .CO's is worth more than $10 ($1), you mean that none of the other taken .com's is worth more than $10,000 ($1,000). Get it now?
No that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is you cannot compare .com to .co on any level. That means sales, number of registrations, or whatever. There are worlds of difference between the 2 extentions. It's not merely that an "m" is missing from .co.
The value of a .com domain is somewhat based on the fact that every person on the planet knows what a .com is. Virtually nobody has ever heard of a .co which puts it in the hole right out of the gate.
Of course we all know that some registered .com won't fetch registration fee while others are worth millions and everything in between. As for .co, I doubt any are worth a million but the majority are worth registration fee or LESS.
It's apples and oranges.
There are only 17,576 possible 3 letter combinations, looks like all LLL.co have been reg, I can't find 1 at hand reg since weeks now. Hmmmm!!!
LLL are the first thing domainers target.
As far as I know there are sellouts in .US, .BIZ, and several other secondary extensions. I would not read all that much into it.
Guess what? I thought the same thing about you.
Earlier you said I'm considering .com and .co on the same level (when it's obviously not the case), that's why I told you to consider a 1/1000th factor.
That looks like an attempt to put them on the same level. Maybe I'm interpreting it wrong.
I still feel that it's dangerous for anyone to buy a .co with any thoughts of .com in mind. The 2 are on different planets.
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Sometimes I warn my kid repeatedly not to do something because I know it's harmful. Then he does it anyways and comes crying to me. In some cases him doing it in spite of my warnings is the best method for him to learn.
Same thing with these new extensions. Despite warnings from people who've been there, some just have to make their investment and fall. Best way to learn in many cases!
This is a general statement to everyone here, not pointed in a specific direction
I'll go so far as to say 93% of all .coms are a waste, unless someone has made something of the domain through development.
And therein lies the problem for ALL new extensions, specially those counting on branding beyond the inherent value of the ccTLD in the country of origin, development will define value.
And no extension will even come close to the total amount of development in .com for the next 10 yrs, or maybe even more.
There were hundreds of them available when I checked 2 days ago. It looks like somebody bought them out today though. I haven't done a bulk check but looking up a number of previously available lll.co they are showing regged today with privacy on the whois
Looks like all LLL.co's are gone. I think that's been the fastest LLL.tld buyout ever!
Do you have the whois search nameserver thingee LOL
sorry I don't know what it's called.
But my scanner won't search properly for .co
says they are all available :D
should be something like this, whois.crsnic.net but for .co
Separate names with a comma.