.co .CO - The Discussion, Showcase and Sales Report Thread

[TOXX]

Well, it seems like Colombia will be releasing .CO to the internet market:
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http://www.mincomunicaciones.gov.co...ge=./mods/contenido/noticia_user_view&id=1043
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This could truly be a big competitor to .COM (especially being a "typo").
I would say with proper guidance .CO could REALLY have a bright future!
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Let me know your thoughts please.

 

[jmcc]

numbers ?

Well this is a survey from September 2011:

Website % | Website Type
13.2433 | Active/Unclassified
1.9987 | Brand Protection
0.0096 | Compromised/defaced
0.6269 | Inpage Redirect
7.8163 | External TLD redirect
1.7280 | 403 etc
9.1436 | Holding Pages
8.4740 | Internal Site Redirect
4.2275 | Expired
0.4836 | Premium Domains
3.6623 | Matched external TLD redirect
0.0412 | Duplicate Content
43.2461 | PPC Parking
0.2424 | Redirect (Unclassified)
0.9440 | For Sale/Rent
1.7054 | Unavailable
0.0121 | Unknown content
2.3949 | Redirect to other .co

These percentages didn't have the clone detection algorithm applied.

Regards...jmcc

 

[surprise]

Well this is a survey from September 2011:

Website % | Website Type
13.2433 | Active/Unclassified
1.9987 | Brand Protection
0.0096 | Compromised/defaced
0.6269 | Inpage Redirect
7.8163 | External TLD redirect
1.7280 | 403 etc
9.1436 | Holding Pages
8.4740 | Internal Site Redirect
4.2275 | Expired
0.4836 | Premium Domains
3.6623 | Matched external TLD redirect
0.0412 | Duplicate Content
43.2461 | PPC Parking
0.2424 | Redirect (Unclassified)
0.9440 | For Sale/Rent
1.7054 | Unavailable
0.0121 | Unknown content
2.3949 | Redirect to other .co

These percentages didn't have the clone detection algorithm applied.

Regards...jmcc

what i do with these mate ? we are comparing .cos Vs .coms ( percentage wise ) , do you have any verified numbers ?

 

[jmcc]

what i do with these mate ?

Marvel in awe? Panic? Do a little happy dance?

we are comparing .cos Vs .coms ( percentage wise ) , do you have any verified numbers ?

Talk to Verisign for .com stats. Otherwise it might be very expensive.

Regards...jmcc

 

[Kate]

Surprise, what is the point you are trying to make precisely ?

We all know there is a lot of speculation in .com too. But .com is established and has an aftermarket. That's why there is speculation in .com, because there is demand from end users.
With .co and the more recent TLDs, the trend is opposite, a lot of speculators register large numbers of domains as soon as the floodgates are open, anticipating end user demand that isn't there yet, and will not materialize in fact.

In fact, the problem with .co is not the huge volume of speculation and non-development, but the fact that the mass of idle registrations is not offset by major development efforts - unlike .com. This is the difference.

I track quite a number of ccTLDs other than .co out of academic interest. I have no stakes in the extension. Just reporting what I found. It is my prerogative to claim that .co is overrated as an alternate TLD :gl:

If you want to commit resources to take the analysis further feel free to get in touch. I have little interest to do so because it's resource- and time-intensive. If you have stakes in .co don't believe the hype and do your homework. Once again 1.3M regs means little if it's the only data you have. You need to look at the usage patterns to understand how the TLD is being used (or not) in the real world. Parked domains will do nothing to enhance the status of the extension, it's like they do not count at all.

In .xxx I noticed that the vast majority of domains are inactive. It is a dead zone. The registry will of course never mention that in press releases. They will just say that it continues to grow and development is going strong. Yeah right. I'm not blaming them, they want to sell you something.

 

[surprise]

Surprise, what is the point you are trying to make precisely ?

This is exactly the same question i asked you all many times , whats your point ? this is a .co thread so it is acceptable to post our reg here and recent sales , the real question is whats your point from jumping every other post to tell us that : .com is better , .co is another cctld , .com is the real deal . .co is underdeveloped . ...etc , really i don't understand this you can ofcourse say this once or twice but keeping posting these facts that we all know doesn't make sense to me , why ? it doesn't make sense because .com is also speculative in a much larger degree , so what ? .com is also underdeveloped as we showed you the numbers from google indexed pages , .com is also risky cuz all good short names are gone , remain the long tail .com so it is not a rosy extension either go to the auction section here and see how sellers try to sell a 4 or 5 .coms starting with 1 $ , and there is hardly any bidders , this is domaining , no news here . So why keep jumping here with the same comment hey .com is better , .co is undeveloped you guys didn't bring anything new i know this already and i don't care , i had one .co only and just now i added another one which is a one Spanish word an expired domain , that's my point ..

:wave:

 

[arend]

Judging by the number of posts on and the intensity the .Co extension can't be too bad. Judging by this thread there is a lot of interest in dot Co.

 

[surprise]

Judging by the number of posts on and the intensity the .Co extension can't be too bad. Judging by this thread there is a lot of interest in dot Co.

Giddyup :lol: , really i wasn't that much interested in .co but they dragged me to it so i scanned many Spanish words and just now i regged one lol

:wave:

 

[Kate]

.com is also underdeveloped as we showed you the numbers from google indexed pages

That's what JMCC is trying to tell you: you are using those numbers as a baseline but you don't even know what they mean or how accurate they are. To begin with, plenty of domains are not indexed in google because their existence is not even known to google. What are these numbers supposed to represent exactly, the total number of indexed pages for all crawled websites ? Something else ? You tell me.
You are not going to be able to gather the number of websites, the number of domains, or the development ratio from a simple google search.

If you think this is a meaningful measure you can try .bz or .tk in google, the figures are good too

 

[surprise]

That's what JMCC is trying to tell you: you are using those numbers as a baseline but you don't even know what they mean or how accurate they are. To begin with, plenty of domains are not indexed in google because their existence is not even known to google. What are these numbers supposed to represent exactly, the total number of indexed pages for all crawled websites ? Something else ? You tell me.
You are not going to be able to gather the number of websites, the number of domains, or the development ratio from a simple google search.

If you think this is a meaningful measure you can try .bz or .tk in google, the figures are good too

Same applies to .co unindexed domains as well , it is a bout percentages and averages not to mention .co is new and .com is very old so which one is more indexed ( percentage wise ) .......

 

[Domainstore]

Hello,
I totally agree with this. Why always the same negative posts ?
I know some people who have 100's of .CO's registerred in the last month.
And there are also backorders, what means that people want a domain very much !

The big drop is finished though, to my impression.

It's quite logical that there were drops, because renewals are 3 time or more as expensive as new registrations.
Because of the birthday of the exention, a big drop came, but lots were already registerrred again.

This is exactly the same question i asked you all many times , whats your point ? this is a .co thread so it is acceptable to post our reg here and recent sales , the real question is whats your point from jumping every other post to tell us that : .com is better , .co is another cctld , .com is the real deal . .co is underdeveloped . ...etc , really i don't understand this you can ofcourse say this once or twice but keeping posting these facts that we all know doesn't make sense to me , why ? it doesn't make sense because .com is also speculative in a much larger degree , so what ? .com is also underdeveloped as we showed you the numbers from google indexed pages , .com is also risky cuz all good short names are gone , remain the long tail .com so it is not a rosy extension either go to the auction section here and see how sellers try to sell a 4 or 5 .coms starting with 1 $ , and there is hardly any bidders , this is domaining , no news here . So why keep jumping here with the same comment hey .com is better , .co is undeveloped you guys didn't bring anything new i know this already and i don't care , i had one .co only and just now i added another one which is a one Spanish word an expired domain , that's my point ..

:wave:

 

[jmcc]

The big drop is finished though, to my impression.

It is not. There are a few more to come due to COInternet's Godaddy promotions.

Regards...jmcc

 

[Domainstore]

The last code of Godaddy doesn't get it under appr. 10 USD for new registrations any more.
Does anybody has a new one or knows why ?
I got different prices on diferent browsers.

 

[surprise]

The last code of Godaddy doesn't get it under appr. 10 USD for new registrations any more.
Does anybody has a new one or knows why ?
I got different prices on diferent browsers.

try these :

iapcom829

cjc799CCb1

iapcom779

 

[MicroGuy]

The big drop is finished though, to my impression.

The big drop is not an end-point it's a cycle. As frustrated investors drop their .CO domains, fresh investors move in and pick up the drops. Then the process repeats creating a declining cycle. Each year there are then fewer and fewer new investors to pickup the drops and hence the extension fades into the background as it's replaced with newly marketed extensions. This is a repeatable predictable pattern.

 

[mwzd]

This is a repeatable predictable pattern.

Though the numbers suggest just the opposite.

1.3 million total registered domains in two years is better performance than anyone predicted.

And their marketing is spot on, they are targeting startups, incubators and other similar end users and letting the secondary market be a function of demand and supply.

 

[Keith]

Despite what some think, it's time to let go of your .co :imho:

Research shows that a handful own the best keywords. They'll be stubborn and ride it to the ground while trying to get top $ for fading domains. Not a market I want to be in!

 

[jmcc]

The big drop is not an end-point it's a cycle. As frustrated investors drop their .CO domains, fresh investors move in and pick up the drops. Then the process repeats creating a declining cycle. Each year there are then fewer and fewer new investors to pickup the drops and hence the extension fades into the background as it's replaced with newly marketed extensions. This is a repeatable predictable pattern.

The strange thing is how long the drop/reregistration pattern lasts. The biggest drops are typically those in the first two years following the landrush but it can be sustained over five or more years. The .eu Landrush dumps are a good indication of what might be ahead for .co ccTLD. The graph below actually shows the Landrush drop echo from 2007 to 2012:

http://www.hosterstats.com/eu-domain-name-registrations.php

The fact that COInternet doesn't publish accurate figures makes it harder to measure the effect of the drop patterns.

Regards...jmcc

 

[surprise]

Well drops or not i don't care it doesn't matter if you have solid keyword .co especially Spanish ones , cuz Colombia will be there and the extension will be there , and with single keywords there are no alternatives so it doesn't matter to me if .co has 9 Million regs or 1 M , it is still a cctld and some consider it as gtld , either way a dictionary word is a dictionary word as long as it is product related why will i drop it , just to switch to the .com bubble extension ? and to be honest most of the .com is worthless , i think .com domainers should let their domains go honestly what a crappy names in that extension ...

 

[the_poet]

Research shows that a handful own the best keywords.

That's true for .com as well. All the best keywords are either owned by the big time domainers or the large companies/wealthy endusers that acquired them from the first category for big bucks. So many of the facts about .CO that get frowned upon can be infact applied to .com and other TLDs but for some reason this seems to be ignored.

The biggest drops are typically those in the first two years following the landrush but it can be sustained over five or more years.

At the end of the first year you and others were constantly repeating the number of drops would be huge because the initial hype was over. When the drop phase finished and the numbers showed the opposite, the same started to say the real end for .CO would be the second anniversary. Again, the numbers just published show positive results and now the death of the extension is postponed by an unknown number of years...

 

[bmugford]

That's true for .com as well. All the best keywords are either owned by the big time domainers or the large companies/wealthy endusers that acquired them from the first category for big bucks. So many of the facts about .CO that get frowned upon can be infact applied to .com and other TLDs but for some reason this seems to be ignored.

The major difference is there is a demand on the secondary market for average terms in .COM. You don't need category defining terms in .COM to have value.

With .CO there is hardly any market for anything outside the top tier terms, most of which were grandfathered domains assigned before open registration or landrush even started.

The vast majority of good .CO sales are these domains either grandfathered or reserved by the registry.

Brad