.co .CO - The Discussion, Showcase and Sales Report Thread

[TOXX]

Well, it seems like Colombia will be releasing .CO to the internet market:
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http://www.mincomunicaciones.gov.co...ge=./mods/contenido/noticia_user_view&id=1043
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This could truly be a big competitor to .COM (especially being a "typo").
I would say with proper guidance .CO could REALLY have a bright future!
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Let me know your thoughts please.

 

[.NJ]

yes exactly mate , apparently you didn't learn it the hard way yet , i am saying that because you are warning people from registering .co domains whatever the name was but you are not warning them from registering .coms which ironically has tens of millions of worthless domains

Your looking at this the wrong way.

You are correct that people reg worthless names everyday in every extension including .com. We are not debating that.

What we are talking about here is the core value, short and long term of an extension.

This value is measured using relevant names that have value now and will in the future.

The opinion that I have is that the .co extension, along with many others are a dead end road when it comes to stable long term investments.

If you watch the market closely with domains that you can actually gauge it with (not random high sales) you will see the extension is taking the same route and trend many others have in the past.


:imho:

 

[surprise]

Your looking at this the wrong way.

You are correct that people reg worthless names everyday in every extension including .com. We are not debating that.

What we are talking about here is the core value, short and long term of an extension.

This value is measured using relevant names that have value now and will in the future.

The opinion that I have is that the .co extension, along with many others are a dead end road when it comes to stable long term investments.

If you watch the market closely with domains that you can actually gauge it with (not random high sales) you will see the extension is taking the same route and trend many others have in the past.


:imho:

I already know that and agreed on most of it , bottom line what is your point ?

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Latest Sedo sales:

Tuscany.co - $4,000
Led.co - $3,125
Nina.co - $1,750
Hee.co - $1,500

BTW hee is sold by a np member :

sold hee.co through sedo for $1500, paid $30 for it 8weeks ago.

someone just bought it through sedo, i had it listed at what there appraisal was $2500, they reneg'd to $1500, so was pretty happy, getting some traffic through on a couple of others there, but thats the 1st one ive sold there (at sedo)

ofcourse you can buy LLL.com with just 30 $ as well ...

 

[the_poet]

"The .Co Numbers Are In: Over 1.35 Million Registered .Co Domains: Our Chat With The COO"

 

[Kate]

sold hee.co through sedo for $1500, paid $30 for it 8weeks ago.

ofcourse you can buy LLL.com with just 30 $ as well ...

Always comparing apples with oranges.
Even the crappiest LLL.com is worth at least 3K reseller in the currently depressed market.
On the other hand LLL.co have no liquidity. It's all a matter of luck. Just because a few have sold for 4 figures doesn't mean they all have the potential to sell.
Unlike their .com counterparts they have almost no built-in value.

 

[surprise]

Always comparing apples with oranges.
Even the crappiest LLL.com is worth at least 3K reseller in the currently depressed market.
On the other hand LLL.co have no liquidity. It's all a matter of luck. Just because a few have sold for 4 figures doesn't mean they all have the potential to sell.
Unlike their .com counterparts they have almost no built-in value.

Thats true , but it is also much harder and impossible to find such quality names available at .com , so whats the point form your post ...

 

[Kate]

so whats the point form your post ...

What's yours ?
We can indeed speculate in many extensions, and sometimes there are sales taking place but the level of risk is not the same across all TLDs. If you are suggesting .co is as good as .com for domaining purposes I wouldn't agree.

 

[surprise]

What's yours ?
We can indeed speculate in many extensions, and sometimes there are sales taking place but the level of risk is not the same across all TLDs. If you are suggesting .co is as good as .com for domaining purposes I wouldn't agree.

Thats a .co showcase thread so it is expected to discuss .co sales , and i said it many times .com is much better and sells for much higher prices , but then again it is rarer and harder to find and more expensive to buy as i pointed out earlier he risked 30$ to get lll.co .

 

[jmcc]

"The .Co Numbers Are In: Over 1.35 Million Registered .Co Domains: Our Chat With The COO"

Numbers but no real statistics. This is an interesting statement though:

"For domain names acquired after GA, the blended rate of renewal is 62%, which includes the average of first and second time renewals.

Second time renewals are particularly strong, with an average renewal rate of 72%.
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Regards...jmcc

 

[the_poet]

Numbers but no real statistics.

Would you require them to give you their bank account credentials? lol

 

[surprise]

Numbers but no real statistics. This is an interesting statement

what's the difference ? do you have access to .com zone file ?

 

[jmcc]

Would you require them to give you their bank account credentials? lol

No. I would require them to give accurate statistics. Perhaps not as detailed as these:
http://www.icann.org/en/resources/registries/reports

Regards...jmcc

 

[the_poet]

No. I would require them to give accurate statistics. Perhaps not as detailed as these:
http://www.icann.org/en/resources/registries/reports

Regards...jmcc

How many ccTLD Registries provide all that information?

 

[jmcc]

what's the difference ?

The difference is it allows COInternet to waffle about how great the figures are without any verification of the figures. Now that might be fine for "technology" journalists in the media but in the domain industry, numbers are how things are measured.

do you have access to .com zone file ?

Care to hazard a guess?

Regards...jmcc

 

[Kate]

Would you require them to give you their bank account credentials? lol

It's not unreasonable to ask for slightly more detailed statistics.
The numbers mean very little without the details. For instance, they say nothing about the actual use and level of development. Guess what, they don't want you to find out.

what's the difference ? do you have access to .com zone file ?

I do. Anybody can get access to the .com zone file. .co and most ccTLDs restrict access or don't provide it at all.
But both I and JMCC have posted our findings pertaining to .co.
They contrast with the PR fluff from the .co registry.

 

[jmcc]

How many ccTLD Registries provide all that information?

Quite a few ccTLD registries supply statistics to their registrars. There is also a trend for registries to do quarterly or annual domain industry reports providing registrations/deletion/transfer/renewal data and a breakdown of figures by registrars. What you see in those ICANN reports are the "raw" statistics.

Regards...jmcc

 

[surprise]

The difference is it allows COInternet to waffle about how great the figures are without any verification of the figures. Now that might be fine for "technology" journalists in the media but in the domain industry, numbers are how things are measured.

Care to hazard a guess?

Regards...jmcc

Ah ok so you can verify .com numbers but not .co , what about other cctlds is it a common practice to restrict access for there dns figures ?

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It's not unreasonable to ask for slightly more detailed statistics.
The numbers mean very little without the details. For instance, they say nothing about the actual use and level of development. Guess what, they don't want you to find out.


I do. Anybody can get access to the .com zone file. .co and most ccTLDs restrict access or don't provide it at all.
But both I and JMCC have posted our findings pertaining to .co.
They contrast with the PR fluff from the .co registry.

Ok , but if you don't have access to .co numbers how you have came to these findings you are talking about ...?

 

[AbdulBasit.com]

I recently grabbed iTravel DOT ((CO))

What's your input guys considering the below iWORD.CO sales:

iflorist.co $4,718
ishot.co $4,000
ishop.co $925

 

[the_poet]

@Abdul

Like all brandables, it depends. Certainly the keyword is great and it's also a verb, so "I travel" is another way the domain could be interpreted.

 

[surprise]

I just checked out some of the forex brokers and apparently they registered their domain names in the .co extension as well :

Igmarkets

Fxcm

Oanda

Mbtrading

fxdd

 

[jmcc]

It's not unreasonable to ask for slightly more detailed statistics.
The numbers mean very little without the details. For instance, they say nothing about the actual use and level of development. Guess what, they don't want you to find out.

The numerology published by COInternet about .co website usage is completely unreliable and, more importantly, so utterly inaccurate that it gives a false view of .co website development and usage. At least 50% of .co is PPC parked or on holding pages. The numerology that COInternet published obscured the PPC Parking/Holding page issue in the ccTLD to make it look like a healthier ccTLD.

However COInternet points out that it is a great success and has over 1.35 million domains registered. It is a great success alright - a great success for the registry.

Regards...jmcc

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Ah ok so you can verify .com numbers but not .co , what about other cctlds is it a common practice to restrict access for there dns figures ?

Most ccTLDs publish some statistics but since 2003, most of the larger ccTLD registries shut down access to their zonefiles due to abuse.

Ok , but if you don't have access to .co numbers how you have came to these findings you are talking about ...?

Hard work and research.

Regards...jmcc