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since there are some ongoing issues with either .tv, demand media, verisign, etc- i thought it might be a good idea to break it down, figure it out, sum it up, and move on.

if a tree is diseased, it wont grow properly- in can in fact die. and i have seen a few trees here that seem to be withering.

its important to get to a place where you are secure in your skin about what you are doing, and if you are not you need to attempt to fix that, or move on to other pastures where you can fourish. staying here and attempting to poisen the rest of the forest not only does us no good, but it turns you into a dead stump- and that is not good either.

we need to put things to rest so we can move on with .tv. there is alot to learn, alot to do. lets break some of this stuff down, find the best answer, and keep moving.
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channelme set up and ad program:
the program at this point in time is obviously set up for the myspace/youtube crowd. so when demand media says it is a "gift", that is because most of these people do not understand revenue share. we may- but the kids who are just happy to be getting videos on the web for the sake of "fame" just think its cool. and that is where that program is right now. my guess is, at this time, they have things set up as simple as possible to appeal to the masses, not the domainers and businesses. so, there are a few answers to this-
+ take your sites off, and set up your own site with your own ads
+ leave your sites on and wait for the next expansion phase if there is one
+ fight the system- but you need a game plan and you need to execute it. this forum is a good place to voice concerns and get ideas, but it is not the battleground, so the war wont be won in here. and you need to go in with the understanding that even you may fight a good fight- you may not win.

slow sales:
there are slow sales all over. even tho this is an internet world, it is directly affected by the outside world. that guy who could have bought one of your names might be experiencing the housing crunch right now. people are spening money on the holidays. there are many things that affect general sales. yes, there are always people buying domains, but if overall sales are down, you need to be patient.
2007 was not the year of .tv- so if you were expecting a windfall, you need to re-evaluate. this is not a landrush situation. it is planting one seed at a time. when that tree grows, it will drop more seeds. more trees will grow. (i am into trees today) this takes time. if you have run out of pateince, please, sell out your tv's and go grow in another extension. i am amazed when people say- gee, .tv shows no real sales/growth- see, go look at dnjournal. .tv reinvented itself in may of this year. may. 7 months ago. it takes years for an extension to begin to reach its potential. when people are taking stabs in the dark like this, you need to just go be productive in another thread. we waste too much time on this.
if you are not happy with sales:
+ sell out and stop driving yourself crazy.
+ re-evaluate your portfolio- you may have some very niche names which take longer to sell in any extension
+ think outside the box- throw around some ideas- feed your inspiration and creativity
+ create a timeline and business plan for yourself and work it.

naysayers
there are sprinkled in all sorts of threads, and found in all forums. part of life, kinda like hives. the fact is, tv is in its "infancy" so there is not much we can put on the table right now. that is why it is easy to strike- ever see a baby fight a war? your best bet is to keep on doing what your doin, and next year let .tv speak for itself. until then, best to leave those posts alone and not feed into it. use your time to be more productive.

.tv vs .com vs .mobi vs .enoughalready
there is no war here. many of us have coms, nets, tv's etc... i can see internet tv and video taking 2008, so my portfolio consists of tv's and coms in this niche. if your goal is to see .tv take over .com- then you need a new goal- aint gonna happen. but they can coexist, and tv can be a strong compliment to com. but tv, net, name- they will never command the prices a com gets. dont be a commer, or a tver- be a domainer.

.tv not being used by big companies
not by everyone, and it wont be. even if they show video. our job is not to hope for microsoft to use microsoft.tv, you would be wasting precious brain cells. but it is being used by some, and i do believe it will be used by more in 2008. again, tv is in its infancy- those who use it- well, they get it. those who dont will still do just fine. and thats ok. if bill gates didnt eat burger king, that certainly would not put them out of business :)

demand media- the company
so what if demand media isnt what we want it to be. many extensions just are there- there is no active leader doing anything. demand took on a roll, and we expected more. some dont feel they delieverd. are you invested in demand media, or .tv? they are not .tv- they are the caretakers. with or without them, .tv will go on. stop looking to demand for a bailout and start running your business. you will go alot further, alot faster.

i am more upbeat about tv now then i was months ago. if ever there was an extension that would cater to a certain niche- and it is predicted that that niche is going to grow abundantly- tv is that extension. i am determined to make .tv happen for me- you have to make it happen for you. so many steps to take to grow something this big. we are not talking about growing an herb garden- this is a world wide extension- trying to reach millions and millions of people. if you dont have the time, then you cant do this. but if you do have the time, we need to move on. you need to shake off some of this stuff that is holding you back. because before you know it, it will be june of next year, and you will still be sitting here wondering why you arent making any sales, while .tv is shooting right past you.

i know this is long but i am hoping any questions can be answered and we can move on. i genuinely care about the people in this forum, and i want them to succeed.
 
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Well said!
 
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maybe you should stick your fingers in your ears...and hum a tune.
got to hear both sides..of dot tv ..
some people have a lot of money invested in dot tv .and only want to hear only good things...
 
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great read smash and nice summary of the "true picture" I believe.

Will need to respond back and think about this more......Complex answers, lol..Been thinking of this and parts of this the past few weeks.....Thought I Was done dreading on a few things lol now I need to rethink this through.....Its a good way though, lol.

J
 
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its good to discuss both sides of anything- its another to browbeat it for the sake of hearing yourself :) in the thread what will be the biggest flop of 2008, you wrote .tv. by a long mile.
that sounds awfully one sided hulls ;-(
 
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i think some are Expecting to much with dot tv it will take years.5/10....
and 08 may well be a flop becouse domainers are expecting a lot...and rightly so if there holding premiums...
but come on lets be honest now..its not looking good.

i read that forbes news...no wonder i think like this now.
i have a few good names what i will hold but maybe i would be a little stupid
if i got more.....but if i cant say what i feel i wont post no more.thats cool :alien:
 
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i was reading many articles yesterday on .tv, internet tv, etc.. one was from like 2000 when the guy was saying how internet tv is coming- its the future of the web.
we are in it now. if we were having this discussion in 2000, then yeah, i could see 8 years out- but i really dont think that now.

and hey, i could be wrong- i am not saying tv is gonna peak in 2008, but i do think its time is getting much closer than 10 years from now. i do believe there is going to be a highly increased interest this coming year.

i need you to explain why it isnt looking so good- and why the forbes article depressed you.
 
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I don't think anyone holding premiums feels like .tv is a flop unless they were someone completely new and rushed in.

Secondly the notion of flop is just plain stupid IMO. This is an indivdual business where its up to you, .com had a great year, so did .co.uk how many tens of thousands did you make in those extensions? So many people I know made no sales in .com of any significance so I guess in their personal world .com was a flop. If someone makes x amount of money in a year selling domains, I don't think they sit there and say "I made money but most did not guess this year was a flop." At the end of the day for many here .tv was a great success for them personally and at the end of the day this is a personal business. The tide will not raise all boats IMO and thinking that way is misguided. Again IMO

5 to 10 year outlooks are also out there IMO, no one has any idea what the internet will look like in two years let alone ten.
 
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iam talking about .dot tv out there in the public eye.not a sale i may have made.
the bigger picture.not just becouse i may have made a buck on a name...

forbes article just to me says there free were not....not a good read.
sorry my view.
i just post what i think ,i mean no harm.i realy do hope everyone does well with there dot tv ...but there is not much to shout about ,thats all.
flop is a bad word to use i AGREE
 
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Hull's you seem to be soooo negative on .tv right now, what went wrong?
Not that long ago you were very excited about .tv's future and you were buying lots of domains (some very nice ones i think)

Did you ever sell that 'News' .tv you were telling me about one time. you mentioned somebody from a local Tv channel had made a bid for it...etc
I cant mind the exact domain but think it was 'News-tv.tv

Try to stay positive Hull's, keep developing your swingers sites and enjoying life :)
 
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its ok hulls- your entitled to your view :) its just real important that you put the timeline in perspective tho, ok? even tho .tv has been around awhile- it had no place. kinda like putting a computer in the 1800's. looks cool- but what do you do with it??

so i dont really count all the years prior in .tvs existance. that is me, because it really didnt have a place yet that made sense. with that being said, having .tv really just start coming to light for what its place in life is just recently happening.

its a big public :) i know you mean no harm :) how is your car?
 
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this year i have had two offers news-tv and txt.tv...not good names realy
its just to early to sell
it worked out it was a guy who worked for local Tv channel .he noticed i lived in same town so called at my house..
why have i got negative am realy not sure

my car at scrapyard...17 year old girl smashed into it no insurance or licence
but everyone ok....ohh yes she was towing a burger van... :td:
 
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i LIKE txt.tv! did you present it to txttv.tv? it is a developed site
 
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Hull's Txt.TV is a great name, especially with the tv.tv being well developed.
I believe Txt.tv is a $500 renewal which should work out great for you imho, just sit and wait for as long as it takes as im sure the offers will roll in at somepoint.

If you ever want to get rid of txt.tv cheap & quick then 'I'm yer man' as they say in Bonnie Scotland. I would give txt.tv a nice home up here with Billy Connoly, Sean Connery, Loch Ness Monster & 5 Million drunk folk :)
 
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.tv will rule--be patient guys--we just need more public awareness--COME ON Demand Media--ADVERTISE to the masses!
 
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boboski....yes they should.....why should we do all the work.....
were developing what are they doing.
if i sell ronnie ill let u know . my first wife was from. largs only lasted 1 year.i was only 18years,... when she got mad i didnot understand a word she was saying.scotish women have scard me ever since.now married for 20 years to a girl from london.
little history.lol
 
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