Best Domain Extension other than .com: Opinions Please

[VURG]

I am a non .com domainer. I used to be a .com domainer but I have changed my focus as I got older. My main domain extensions that I am interested in are .net, .pink and .black.

I am interested in understanding what other people who invest away from .com are advocates for.

Do you think the king (.com) could ever be dethroned?

Do you think the queen (.net) could ever be dethroned?

I am interested to know why people choose the extension that they do?

For those who invest outside .com, has it proved to be a useful strategy?

 

[VURG]

It's not about mathematics.

Tell me about your huge marketing budget to convince others of your plans with .pink and .black, then tell me if you think that huge budget is the smartest thing you can do with that money. Tell me all about your opportunity cost.

For me, it is about mathematics. I am a long gamer. I don't play the aggressive marketing game. My marketing budget comes out of my profits. The academic route may be slow to some but I prefer to be more like a tortoise than a hare.

 

[bmugford]

For me, it is about mathematics. I am a long gamer. I don't play the aggressive marketing game. My marketing budget comes out of my profits. The academic route may be slow to some but I prefer to be more like a tortoise than a hare.

Alright, what is the actual math then?

I would love to analyze, based on math, how .net, .black, .pink, or whatever other extension is superior.

Brad

 

[VURG]

Alright, what is the actual math then?

I would love to analyze, based on math, how .net, .black, .pink, or whatever other extension is superior.

Brad

The math that I am working on at this stage is to describe the superiority of a gambling model. Validating the superiority of my gambling model to the standard existing model in gambling will not prove the superiority of a domain extension to .com. What this does is helps identify why there will be a political split in Las Vegas between companies who do and don't like the model. The case to why this helps activate a domino effect in politics that will empower the Libertarians to have a stronger voice in politics is a different part of the argument than the mathematics. I feel that the psychological argument and the mathematical validation of the model are two different things that each require some time to prepare. Are you more interested in the mathematics or the psychology?

 

[bmugford]

The math that I am working on at this stage is to describe the superiority of a gambling model. Validating the superiority of my gambling model to the standard existing model in gambling will not prove the superiority of a domain extension to .com. What this does is helps identify why there will be a political split in Las Vegas between companies who do and don't like the model. The case to why this helps activate a domino effect in politics that will empower the Libertarians to have a stronger voice in politics is a different part of the argument than the mathematics. I feel that the psychological argument and the mathematical validation of the model are two different things that each require some time to prepare. Are you more interested in the mathematics or the psychology?

Well, math is generally apolitical and objective.

There should be some formula or proof that can be used.

Just saying "math" doesn't really mean anything without that.

As far as the psychology side, you need to change people's well established behaviors.

If ALL the new extensions couldn't take the crown from .COM, I doubt .NET will, never mind .black, .pink, or any other oddball extension.

Brad

 

[bmugford]

It's the classic, you are making an extraordinary claim.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

If I said I went to McDonald's, that doesn't require much evidence. It can happen; it does happen. There is nothing extraordinary about the claim.

If I said I went to the Moon, people would probably want a little more evidence.

The odds of me going to the Moon are probably much higher than any of these extensions becoming more popular than .COM.

Brad

 

[VURG]

Even if you got the endorsement of the world's most famous mathematician, who even is that? It's not like whoever would be a household name.

You really think that is going to move the needle?

It is the legal protection that a professor's endorsement provides me with that I want, not the fame. That is why I can only be vague about my model at this stage. I have confidence in my model but I know that there are a lot of laws about making big claims in gambling. I can't provide you with a strong case for my argument at this stage. There is a proper order for doing things of the magnitude that I am talking about. I am not trying to win any argument today. What I stand for takes time to prove.

 

[Sandro.Agency]

.com then .co and .org
If AI related, .ai is king there
.io is queen of smaller tech start ups

 

[bmugford]

It is the legal protection that a professor's endorsement provides me with that I want, not the fame. That is why I can only be vague about my model at this stage. I have confidence in my model but I know that there are a lot of laws about making big claims in gambling. I can't provide you with a strong case for my argument at this stage. There is a proper order for doing things of the magnitude that I am talking about. I am not trying to win any argument today. What I stand for takes time to prove.

Well, when you have the actual math available, please submit it for peer review.

That is how you will get qualified feedback.

Brad

 

[bmugford]

Anyone could make up a "math" based argument that doesn't really mean anything.

For instance I could state that -

.CO is superior to .COM because it is faster to type. The math is objectively true. There is no scenario where you could type .COM faster than .CO.

However, in reality that doesn't really mean anything.

On the psychology side, new extensions spent countless millions collectively pushing campaigns like ".COM is dead" and ".COM is AM radio".

.COM is still as dominant as ever.

Brad

 

[Joe N]

In relation to questions on my domain selection, I have the belief that the world is transitioning away from party based government to policy based government. My expectation is that this will involve a cocoon period where political groups split into factions. The two factions that I am anticipating will raise highest levels of funds are libertarians and women. I am building the case that libertarians have a good strategic political campaign around the colour black as black represents profit and Libertarian values are aligned with small governments (low spending therefore minimising debt). I see pink representing women's rights. .Net I see as a competitor to .com as a for consumer coops as netting in fishing is a one-to-many form fishing. I see consumers fed up with high inflation from companies and hence .com represents a culture of taking consumers for granted.

My domaining strategies are related to the fact that I am building a career around changes in politics. Political advertising is one of the fastest growing markets within advertising. Of these three domain extensions, I am most interested in .black. I see government debt in the western world as a rapidly growing political issue and black to be a strong political colour to return to traditional financial values.

I can see a lot of potential with .com. my focus is to be involved in emerging domain opportunities, not traditional ones

As a math-focused individual, I would think you would prefer a strategy that doesn't require sooooo many different things to fall the right way for you. Not the least of which is betting that broad social and political groups will favor very obscure domain extensions based on some very tenuous associations.

 

[dirk]

Good read. I hope OP is right, in a decade or so I will be filthy rich, if his prophecy becomes reality.

I'm rooting for OP

 

[dncafe]

There are a lot of trends that come and go with different extensions, like XYZ with the rise of crypto, or .IO for tech related, but over all I think the 2 best long term extensions are .COM & .ORG

 

[inforg]

It is the legal protection that a professor's endorsement provides me with that I want, not the fame. That is why I can only be vague about my model at this stage. I have confidence in my model but I know that there are a lot of laws about making big claims in gambling. I can't provide you with a strong case for my argument at this stage. There is a proper order for doing things of the magnitude that I am talking about. I am not trying to win any argument today. What I stand for takes time to prove.

Libertarians will never account for more than about 5% of the population. I say this as a libertarian. Human nature shows that people will always want to take from people who produce and rule others based on their own morality.

I am rooting for you, but I don't see how any new mathematics could revolutionize gambling. The math is done - the house maintains the edge. Again, as a gambler, I don't foresee any large-scale changes in the math of gambling, nor would I see that leading to some political epiphany where libertarianism becomes some dominant force in politics.

While I appreciate the effort you put into your ideas, they all seem to boil down to:

Step 1: Unrelated "Brilliant" Idea
Steps 2-9: Not sure Yet
Step 10: Massive Global change

I think you need to spend more time focusing on the middle steps and have some plan for getting from 1 to 10 that is logical and consistent.

Good luck

 

[inforg]

I'd also add my .02 on extensions

75% .com
20% .org
5% .whatever you want to gamble on

.pink and .black are not extensions that I would touch. My 25 years of experience with .net shows me there is little upside potential to them.

 

[NameMaxi.com]

The real question is, how many .net, .black and .pink domains have you sold?

 

[VURG]

The real question is, how many .net, .black and .pink domains have you sold?

I don't buy domain names to sell them like I did when I was younger. I have sold quite a few .net domains but that was over a decade ago.

While I appreciate the effort you put into your ideas, they all seem to boil down to:

Step 1: Unrelated "Brilliant" Idea
Steps 2-9: Not sure Yet
Step 10: Massive Global change

I think you need to spend more time focusing on the middle steps and have some plan for getting from 1 to 10 that is logical and consistent.

Good luck

Thanks for your comments. The problem I have is that my mathematical skills don't pay the bills at this point in my life. I do data entry work that pays the bills but does not match the pay that I would receive if I was respected as a mathematician by my employer. I live in Perth, Western Australia which is mainly known as a city that surrounded by mining companies and farms. The jobs for mathematicians are quite limited here. Hence, I have built over 20 years a collection of mathematical algorithms that can be used for a large spectrum of uses in my spare time but this collection is a closely guarded collection that only I know. I have in the past I have shared ideas and I have not been compensated or even acknowledged when sharing ideas by those who used and profited from them. I have skills as a mathematician but I don't have skills as a programmer and I have made the decision to prioritise political strategist skills over programming skills.

To a large extent, my campaign is mostly buried at the moment. I am working towards getting more financially secure before I can invest more resources to my campaign. I am a long gamer and so the focus of my campaign is to fund it through the profits rather than through borrowing which slows down my work. The domains that I am interested in don't have much resale value now as there values are based on the success of a dormant campaign that is not financially viable to build very quickly ATM. I am not a pocket money domainer. I have had $XX,XXX sales with domains over a 3 year period but I was never really interested in sales that low. My main success in domaining was through the reputation that I built on forecasting the LLLL.com buyout years ago (https://www.namepros.com/threads/llll-com-countdown.161235/). I sold quite a few 4 letter domains back then.

I don't see the 2024 US election to have a strong voice by the Libertarian community. Both the candidates don't appear to have much interest in Libertarian principles. I am a lot more interested in the 2028 election. My campaign should be a lot more organised and focused by then. We will probably have an Australian federal election in 2028 as well.

Thanks to everyone for your feedback. I know that my case for .net is very vague and speculative ATM. Thank you for your patience. It is not my intension to win an argument of superiority for an alternative extension to .com at this point in time. The general consensus is that .com is king and I expect that this will not change in the near future. My interest is more focused on the distant future when younger domainers and developers bring new voices into the domaining narratives.

 

[VURG]

Well, when you have the actual math available, please submit it for peer review.

That is how you will get qualified feedback.

Brad

Hi Brad, I have found something that I can talk about to build my case for an emerging split between conservatives and libertarians. Essentially my argument is that Trump is more of a conservative than a libertarian and the conservatives accept higher levels of red tape than libertarians do. The particular area that I believe that I can talk about that does not require my mathematical intellectual property is postal laws. From my understanding Trump is a big fan of protecting the United States Postal Service and the laws that give this organisation a monopoly of postage. The postal laws in the USA and across the world give a lot of government control over postal systems. These laws do a lot of damage to communities due to lack of competition between postal providers.

In particular, it is very difficult to run a local post service that specialises in limited geographic regions that undercuts the prices of the USPS. We have postal laws like this in Australia as well. What these laws essentially do is make it very difficult for small businesses to compete with large businesses who are situated thousands of kilometres away for doing businesses with customers in their local region.

There are a lot higher levels of red tape under a conservative government than a libertarian government. The kinds of algorithms that I am interested in using to help reduce the cost-of-living in Australia and other parts of the world challenge the political boundaries that conservative red tape blocks. The postal laws in USA and the rest of the world is a core example of red tape weakening the ability of small businesses to compete against big city businesses and foreign businesses. The Democrats and the Republicans have bipartisan support for the postal unions and postal laws that allow red tape from blocking more effective forms of post. If you dig deep into the legal systems, you can see that republicans like Trump are protecting a lot of red tape and this red tape restricts the liberties of businesses to be more competitive and provide more competitive prices.

 

[VURG]

Step 1: Unrelated "Brilliant" Idea
Steps 2-9: Not sure Yet
Step 10: Massive Global change

I think you need to spend more time focusing on the middle steps and have some plan for getting from 1 to 10 that is logical and consistent.

Good luck

I guess step 1 of my campaign is to identify #PostalRedTape as the initial #PoliticalSplitter between conservatives and libertarians in the Republican Party. Trump and Harris both support #PostalRedTape. I am building a case for the application of black as the colour for libertarians to differentiate themselves with. Many of the lobby groups who support the Republicans benefit from #PostalRedTape but there are also many lobby groups who suffer from #PostalRedTape. This is an issue that will divide the loyalty of lobby groups.

 

[Kyle Tully]

I guess step 1 of my campaign is to identify #PostalRedTape as the initial #PoliticalSplitter between conservatives and libertarians in the Republican Party.

I fear this may not be the political hot button you are hoping for.

 

[bmugford]

Hi Brad, I have found something that I can talk about to build my case for an emerging split between conservatives and libertarians. Essentially my argument is that Trump is more of a conservative than a libertarian and the conservatives accept higher levels of red tape than libertarians do. The particular area that I believe that I can talk about that does not require my mathematical intellectual property is postal laws. From my understanding Trump is a big fan of protecting the United States Postal Service and the laws that give this organisation a monopoly of postage. The postal laws in the USA and across the world give a lot of government control over postal systems. These laws do a lot of damage to communities due to lack of competition between postal providers.

In particular, it is very difficult to run a local post service that specialises in limited geographic regions that undercuts the prices of the USPS. We have postal laws like this in Australia as well. What these laws essentially do is make it very difficult for small businesses to compete with large businesses who are situated thousands of kilometres away for doing businesses with customers in their local region.

There are a lot higher levels of red tape under a conservative government than a libertarian government. The kinds of algorithms that I am interested in using to help reduce the cost-of-living in Australia and other parts of the world challenge the political boundaries that conservative red tape blocks. The postal laws in USA and the rest of the world is a core example of red tape weakening the ability of small businesses to compete against big city businesses and foreign businesses. The Democrats and the Republicans have bipartisan support for the postal unions and postal laws that allow red tape from blocking more effective forms of post. If you dig deep into the legal systems, you can see that republicans like Trump are protecting a lot of red tape and this red tape restricts the liberties of businesses to be more competitive and provide more competitive prices.

Alright, let's say the US postal system sucks.

How does that correlate to domain names?

I just don't really see the connection.

Brad