Atom Standard Listings vs. Sedo

[Charac]

I've only loaded a couple brandable names onto Atom platform, both being "standard." Wanting to see how this may go before doing more.

One has sat for many months without traffic ( both have categories, root, keywords, whatever needed completed).

Noticeably however there has been zero activity. When I search, they seem buried in the hoard of choices.

Is it worth it to even have a "standard" listing at Atom. OR is a "Premium" listing really needed in order to gain some amount interest? With their main "Boost" feature only applicable to Premium names.

Both have gotten daily interest at SEDO (of course, who knows whose finger-clickers belong to whom, other SEDO listers or potential Buyers?)

 

[reff]

The domains will not be searchable/visible if you do not point those to their name servers (ns1.atom.com and ns2.atom.com), so I do not think there is any point to list domains at Atom (no matter whether it is Standard or Plus, and on Premium you must have to point it to their name servers ) if your sale landers are different. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

 

[Future Sensors]

The domains will not be searchable/visible if you do not point those to their name servers (ns1.atom.com and ns2.atom.com), so I do not think there is any point to list domains at Atom (no matter whether it is Standard or Plus, and on Premium you must have to point it to their name servers ) if your sale landers are different. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

That used to be the case, but not anymore.

https://helpdesk.atom.com/en/articles/4466451-what-are-standard-plus-and-premium-listings

 

[NameGroove]

Atom Standard listings in competitive categories (e.g., health, home, Ai, etc) get very little to no views. Plus level names (which are simply a toggle to "on") will get retargeting ads and broker assistance. So while your views won't necessarily spike - if someone sees your name - they will receive retargeting ads for 2x the commission. Sapphire names have their own searchable marketplace so if you can get your dictionary word into it - you will enjoy more views than Standard or Plus.

I list all my names as Standard on Atom (I see no harm). That said, there are limited benefits except for those in uncompetitive categories. One side benefit to listing as Standard is the ability to list in the Wholesale Marketplace. So perhaps, at the end of the names lifecycle you may want to sell it Wholesale to another investor - this allows you the oppty to do that. The Wholesale marketplace is active, and if you price appropriately (1-2% of retail) you will be likely to see sales on quality names.

 

[Charac]

Still have now only 2 listed at both Atom and SEDO (since post made early March) where:
- one has domain pointed to Atom (noting SEDO listing at least trickles in a few views per month)
- other points to SEDO - and has been getting great traffic activity!

Both have gotten absolutely no traffic at Atom.

 

[Synozeer]

Still have now only 2 listed at both Atom and SEDO (since post made early March) where:
- one has domain pointed to Atom (noting SEDO listing at least trickles in a few views per month)
- other points to SEDO - and has been getting great traffic activity!

Both have gotten absolutely no traffic at Atom.

Sedo traffic numbers aren't very accurate - they tend to count bot traffic.

 

[Future Sensors]

other points to SEDO - and has been getting great traffic activity!

Those stats at Sedo are pretty useless.

 

[reff]

That used to be the case, but not anymore.

If you go to "Syndication & API"> "Syndication & Exposure" then you will see two category "Premium" and "Standard". All "Plus" domains will be under "Standard", it clearly said there that "Standard Listings are searchable if name servers point to Atom".

 

[Future Sensors]

If you go to "Syndication & API"> "Syndication & Exposure" then you will see two category "Premium" and "Standard". All "Plus" domains will be under "Standard", it clearly said there that "Standard Listings are searchable if name servers point to Atom".

You can ask Atom Support to rewrite these texts.

 

[reff]

You can ask Atom Support to rewrite these texts.

it does not only say it, it also shows how many are searchable/pointed to Atom's NS.

 

[NameGroove]

If you go to "Syndication & API"> "Syndication & Exposure" then you will see two category "Premium" and "Standard". All "Plus" domains will be under "Standard", it clearly said there that "Standard Listings are searchable if name servers point to Atom".

You're chatting directly with long time Atom users who are sharing their experience. My suggestion to you when you come to a new board and are learning, is to listen to those with more experience, instead of pointing to online verbiage that contradicts reality.

 

[reff]

@NameGroove I am not here to argue with you guys. I just checked—yes, standard/plus listings that are not pointed to Atom's name server do appear in search results, but only at the end, along with all other related and unrelated domains, on pages 3, 4, etc., depending on the keywords you searched.

 

[DomainRecap]

95% of buyer offers are going to come from wherever you send your traffic via nameservers (and resultant search engine listings), so I would never hope to get sales from marketplaces that you just list bare and depend entirely on buyer marketplace searches.

I list on multiple sales venues for a few reasons:

1) To ensure scammers and fraudsters aren't listing my domains there.
2) On the random, off-chance that someone actually does search and find my domain.
3) To make it easier for me to potentially move my domain business elsewhere, such as after a corporate takeover or significant change in business processes.

But in terms of offers and sales, the vast, vast majority of those will come from where you send your traffic. That's why domain traffic is so valuable to overall sales, and it's important not to waste it.

 

[Dane]

...such as after a corporate takeover or significant change in business processes.

Reminds me of an old friend named Dan. Ahhh, memories...

 

[NameGroove]

@NameGroove I am not here to argue with you guys. I just checked—yes, standard/plus listings that are not pointed to Atom's name server do appear in search results, but only at the end, along with all other related and unrelated domains, on pages 3, 4, etc., depending on the keywords you searched.

Exactly. That's why I said upthread in competitive categories (where there are popular keywords), it's highly unlikely to get any views. If you're able to find a name that has less competition, you may get some. But primarily Atom is meant to be a premium curated marketplace and to a 2nd degree more recently, Sapphire (dictionary non coms). Plus is the new Standard and if you're wanting to list base uncrated names there - Plus is likely the way to go now (but of course costs more)

 

[DomainRecap]

Reminds me of an old friend named Dan. Ahhh, memories...

Yes, and I was NOT prepared for that particular 'tomato surprise' - now I am.

 

[Charac]

Those stats at Sedo are pretty useless

Sedo traffic numbers aren't very accurate - they tend to count bot traffic.

Even when marketplace nameservers aren't being pointed to?

BTW - At Atom especially, based on their search feature: I see the full root term must fully exist for a name to show among either search results or a preload page. Rather than some abbreviated version. Which is unfortunate when it comes to new potential brand seekers.

 

[Future Sensors]

Even when marketplace nameservers aren't being pointed to?

If not used, and you're not redirecting either via http, then the 'human' visitor stats are more reliable.

 

[Future Sensors]

@Charac Which Sedo nameservers do you use, and which lander type? I understand from Sedo that measuring visitors is done differently depending on the choices you make here. But since I've only used sl1.sedo.com & sl2.sedo.com recently (this implies lander #15) I have little comparison material myself. Perhaps others have compared different setups in this regard.

All my domains currently have Atom landers, and are also listed at SedoMLS and Afternic with Fast Transfer. I still regularly receive sales through Afternic, even though I no longer use them for the lander.

 

[DomainRecap]

Even when marketplace nameservers aren't being pointed to?

Yes, as Sedo creates a page for each domain listing that the bots seem to pick up on, and I have some crazy traffic numbers on Sedo, all with zero nameservers and zero offers in a long while.

Of all the marketplaces, Sedo is the least trustworthy in terms of 'domain traffic'.