.asia suspicions

[Name Trader]

I applied for a domain back in the sunrise period. It wasn't on the list of registered domains. I actually had high expectations to be the only registrant for this domain. It then appeared on this list.. http://www.asia.asia/info/DotAsia-DomainsAppliedFor--2008-02-08.txt. Then 1 day before landrush the application got rejected by .asia. Now it's unavailable. Smells fishy to me. Does anyone have a whois search which doesn't require a Domain ID: to do an .asia whois search, so I can see who took this domain? I thought these were all supposed to go to auction?

 

[dmi]

The official whois is here:

http://www.registry.asia/cgi-bin/whois.cgi

 

[hostingsearch]

They actually show people(CED)'s passport/citizenship ID number in whois result? That's crazy!

 

[Name Trader]

How do you get the Domain ID?... OK. You don't need a Domain ID: to lookup a registered domain.

So the domain was grabbed by a Hong Kong company which was registered in 2002. They have no presence on the internet and the domain doesn't resolve. They registered it with a reseller of an ICANN accredited Registrar with a total of 80 domain registrations. So if they made an application for this domain. Why wasn't I informed of any auction. Is this possible? This don't feel right to me.

 

[Jackie]

It says "Domain ID is required for non-allocated domain names." on http://www.registry.asia/cgi-bin/whois.cgi

If the name is registered, you should be able to do a WHOIS search there just by typing in the domain name.

Edit: Ah okay, you figured it out. :tu:

 

[trlsker01]

Hello Sander of EuroDNS.

I am writing here regarding my current .asia domain purchase at Eurodns.
The domain in question is bid.asia which I purchased by my debit card.
The purchase went through and I saw it with my pending purchased domains list on my Eurodns account. After 5 days it just disappeared from my pending domains list on my account at Eurodns.

I made the payment for bid.asia on 2-26-08 and Paypal put a temporary hold on the funds as they stated that EuroDNS have 4 days to accept the funds.
They told me that EuroDNS did not took action and Paypal have to Expire the transaction on 3-5-08.

I also purchased beijing.asia and aside from my other purchases on 2-27-08, everyone have been submitted to the register except that one beijing.asia which still shows a status of "ready for submission" up to now (that purchase was made on 2-27-08). Your support emailed me back stating that the purchase of beijing.asia is restricted??? Then why is it available when I made the purchase and even now if I go to your website, it still shows that anyone can purchase it???

Also, I purchased 33 (LLL.asia) 3 letter .asia domains and all states its "ready for submission"??? Except, the one word generics that I've purchased which all have been submitted to the registry. (Currently I managed to purchase 80 domains with Eurodns and I am only have been sorting from letter A-G).

Sander, could you please check on this to make sure that your staff at Eurodns accept my purchase within the allotted time so as a repeat of the bid.asia occurrence would not repeat itself.
Please do this for me and Eurodns.

Art M.

Please pm me.

 

[Charley]

So if they made an application for this domain. Why wasn't I informed of any auction. Is this possible? This don't feel right to me.

Interesting. Did you contact the .asia[dotasia.org] staff regarding this issue?

 

[EuroDNS NL]

Hello Sander of EuroDNS.

I am writing here regarding my current .asia domain purchase at Eurodns.
The domain in question is bid.asia which I purchased by my debit card.
The purchase went through and I saw it with my pending purchased domains list on my Eurodns account. After 5 days it just disappeared from my pending domains list on my account at Eurodns.

I made the payment for bid.asia on 2-26-08 and Paypal put a temporary hold on the funds as they stated that EuroDNS have 4 days to accept the funds.
They told me that EuroDNS did not took action and Paypal have to Expire the transaction on 3-5-08.

I also purchased beijing.asia and aside from my other purchases on 2-27-08, everyone have been submitted to the register except that one beijing.asia which still shows a status of "ready for submission" up to now (that purchase was made on 2-27-08). Your support emailed me back stating that the purchase of beijing.asia is restricted??? Then why is it available when I made the purchase and even now if I go to your website, it still shows that anyone can purchase it???

Also, I purchased 33 (LLL.asia) 3 letter .asia domains and all states its "ready for submission"??? Except, the one word generics that I've purchased which all have been submitted to the registry. (Currently I managed to purchase 80 domains with Eurodns and I am only have been sorting from letter A-G).

Sander, could you please check on this to make sure that your staff at Eurodns accept my purchase within the allotted time so as a repeat of the bid.asia occurrence would not repeat itself.
Please do this for me and Eurodns.

Art M.

Please pm me.

Art.

I received your forward per email as well and will follow up/answer today,

Sander

 

[trlsker01]

How is this possible???
I believe that anyone could register 3 letter .asia domains during the landrush and before 3-12-08. Why is your support team saying that these domains are taken??? Just like what you did on the bid.asia domain that I registered that disappeared from my domain lists because eurodns did not claim my paypal payment within 4 days!
Something is wrong here and I have reason to believe that you guys want to have all this domains to bank on it specially now that 3 letter .com domains are very much within the $5,000 range. This is totally unacceptable.

Mr. Mueller or Scholten, please explain in detail as to why this domains are already taken before 3-12-08 and by who???

Art .M
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Email below from your support:

Dear customer,

Those domain names are already taken at the registry and cannot be
registered. You will be refunded soon.

Have a nice day

Nuno SOARES
EuroDNS Support


> *** REGISTERED USER ***
> =============================================================
> Identifier: ######
> Name: Art M#######
> Login: #######
> Email address: #######@verizon.net
> Phone number: #############
> Reply in: EN
> Short summary: Why domains not yet forwarded to registry?
> =============================================================
> Full description:
> Why are these domains still not forwarded to registry like the rest
of my orders???
>
> beijing.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
>
> vwr.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> kps.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> kao.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> dkm.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> wcm.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> kds.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> dws.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> svr.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> hkt.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> xls.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> wbr.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> wpt.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> ktm.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> kia.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> ksb.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> bvd.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> vca.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> cvb.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> waa.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> skf.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> wea.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> xda.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> kdb.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> wtc.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> kgi.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> wkc.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> kbc.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> qvc.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> skc.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> xsi.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> kpi.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> vjc.asia new Ready for submission EuroDNS
> =============================================================
> END OF MAIL

Sander SCHOLTEN <[email protected]> wrote:
Arturo,

my colleagues confirmed that your names are submitted and that you have no open invoices.

If there is anything else pls contact mr muller during my holiday: [email protected]

Sander

PS. Also, the above 3 letter .asia domains have all disappeared from my Eurodns lists of pre-registered domains and with no credit to my account???

I am for sure that these domains were not registered before when I registered it because when I did my .asia domain search within Asiadns(Eurodns), it shows on the results under the status that these .asia domains have green check mark on both .asia and .asia.com extensions.

Now, I believe your interface tells me that the .asia extension have been registered or somebody have pre-registered if I did a search but the .asia extension shows under the status with a greeen check mark on .asia extension and a red stop sign icon under the status of the .asia.com extension.

I figured that since the .asia extension still shows a green check mark is because of the 3-12-08 deadline for anyone to register the premium .asia extension. But the red stop sign icon under the .asia.com extension is an indication that the .asia domain have been pre-registered.

Correct me if I'm wrong but that is what I observed!
Anyone who registered with Asiadns have noticed this???

 

[onlinelife]

Missing

Dont forget to check: http://dotasia.org/info/DotAsia-DomainsAppliedFor--2008-02-27.txt

 

[aLeeOnline]

did u contacted them ?? probably they could'v helped..

 

[Name Trader]

Interesting. Did you contact the .asia[dotasia.org] staff regarding this issue?

Yes. I did think about doing that. I crawled all over their website and couldn't an appropriate link. So I gave up because I don't believe I am going to get them to change their mind. Wasted energy and emotion.

 

[cadejo]

How do you get the Domain ID?... OK. You don't need a Domain ID: to lookup a registered domain.

what if you want to check unallocated domains that you've applied for? how do you get a domain ID?

 

[Krossat]

im waiting for a auction to start on on one .asia domain i regged.
no reply as yet, and what i can see is that i'm going to lose it.