discuss Artificial Intelligence and how it applies to outbound sales

[ThatNameGuy]

No doubt domainers way smarter than me are working toward a better way to market/sell domain names. While artificial intelligence is being used by retailers like Amazon to target prospects, realtors are also using AI to target home buyers.

I asked the question, is SEO artificial intelligence? No, but if you google "Is SEO artificial intelligence", you'll learn how AI empowers SEO.

Our brains are actually computers that if coordinated could develop one hell of a program that would target domain prospects rather than wait for these prospects to find us.

I believe I know enough about sales and marketing in general to provide credible input to make more domain sales to the real estate industry, the healthcare industry, and the food/restaurant industries.

Final questions...what, if anything do you know about AI and how it relates to selling domains? Do you know any one individual or company that's actively pursuing AI solutions for outbound domain sales? Inquiring minds would luv to know. Thanks

 

[twiki]

AI will take over the world. You are right my friend.

When the AI will be able to code itself, we are done.

Obsolete model.

Edit: The funny thing is, we're going there anyway.

 

[twiki]

yes so your definition has no "intelligence" at all
neither artificial nor good made

its just a "script"

@Ostrados is correct. That is artificial intelligence, even if using a fixed algorithm. Even scripts are some form of very basic intelligence, if they collect data and are able to improve the output via a feedback loop. (That's what "intelligent" is mostly, able to learn from experience)

Our brains are the same. We use fixed algorithms and structures developed over millennia. Having visual centers, hearing centers, etc etc. The structure is the same, all humans can commonly memorize and juggle with 7 items at once but not more. What changes is the data, the data in affects how the data is handled by using previous data patterns as a mould, which is still data, not self programming.

We cannot "edit" our brains, at least not with nowadays technology.

On the other hand, a true singularity is something out of this world - a brain that can change its own structure as it pleases. Over time, left at its will, could become billion times smarter than all humanity's intelligence combined.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

AI will take over the world. You are right my friend.

"How is Peddler different to other “social shopping” platforms?
We use an innovative artificial intelligence system (that we created) which analyses data from forums anywhere on the web to find out what the consumer wants – nobody else does that."

https://www.retailgazette.co.uk/blog/2018/02/5-minutes-james-klymowsky-founder-peddler/

After reading this and discovering that PeddlerBrands.com was available for purchase I started yet another portfolio to include names like; PhonePeddler and SilkPeddler.

Now I have a call in to Mr Klymowsky to see if he might like to partner with me

 

[Joe N]

"How is Peddler different to other “social shopping” platforms?
We use an innovative artificial intelligence system (that we created) which analyses data from forums anywhere on the web to find out what the consumer wants – nobody else does that."

https://www.retailgazette.co.uk/blog/2018/02/5-minutes-james-klymowsky-founder-peddler/

After reading this and discovering that PeddlerBrands.com was available for purchase I started yet another portfolio to include names like; PhonePeddler and SilkPeddler.

Now I have a call in to Mr Klymowsky to see if he might like to partner with me

Just be careful, Rich... Legally and ethically speaking, I think that might not reflect well on you. Registering names that contain an existing brand name, and then contacting that company with an intent to profit from the names, could be seen as a trademark violation.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Just be careful, Rich... Legally and ethically speaking, I think that might not reflect well on you. Registering names that contain an existing brand name, and then contacting that company with an intent to profit from the names, could be seen as a trademark violation.

lol, nothing ever reflects poorly on me...i'm sort of blessed that way Obviously my "Good Faith" intent in contacting the company went way over your head.

 

[Joe N]

lol, nothing ever reflects poorly on me...i'm sort of blessed that way Obviously my "Good Faith" intent in contacting the company went way over your head.

Actually you were pretty vague in how you described your intent, but asking to work with another business is typically motivated by a desire to profit from the partnership. You had something else in mind?

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Actually you were pretty vague in how you described your intent, but asking to work with another business is typically motivated by a desire to profit from the partnership. You had something else in mind?

Actually you were pretty vague in how you described your intent, but asking to work with another business is typically motivated by a desire to profit from the partnership. You had something else in mind?

Suggest you read this; https://blog.101domain.com/corporat...O2-RwfD-JLP0uMGH9eAxm4CHoVMwvLKsaAu9cEALw_wcB

Then you do your best to figure out my faith and my intent. Then maybe we can get back on topic and discuss the AI with regards to outbound sales. God this industry has HUGE problems, and they're not me

 

[Joe N]

Suggest you read this; https://blog.101domain.com/corporat...O2-RwfD-JLP0uMGH9eAxm4CHoVMwvLKsaAu9cEALw_wcB

Then you do your best to figure out my faith and my intent.

Yeah, so if you scroll down on that page a bit, I was concerned because it sounded like your idea of registering "peddler" names and then approaching Peddler with them might meet the three UDRP conditions.

The three conditions are:

1. Complainant must prove the domain name is identical or confusingly similar to a trademark or service mark in which the Complainant has rights.

2. Complainant must prove the Respondent has no rights or legitimate interest in respect of the domain name.

3. Complainant must prove the domain name was registered and is being used in bad faith.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Yeah, so if you scroll down on that page a bit, I was concerned because it sounded like your idea of registering "peddler" names and then approaching Peddler with them might meet the three UDRP conditions.

The three conditions are:

1. Complainant must prove the domain name is identical or confusingly similar to a trademark or service mark in which the Complainant has rights.

2. Complainant must prove the Respondent has no rights or legitimate interest in respect of the domain name.

3. Complainant must prove the domain name was registered and is being used in bad faith.

EXACTLY

 

[Joe N]

EXACTLY

I guess you don't have any insight to offer, but for newer investors this is a great example of situations that should be avoided when buying and selling domain names.

Some domainers have been able to profit by actively soliciting trademarked names to the TM holders, but over the long run I don't believe the damage to your reputation is worth the risk. Not to mention the potential for costly legal implications.

Anyway, apologies for getting side-tracked, but that was important to point out.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

I guess you don't have any insight to offer, but for newer investors this is a great example of situations that should be avoided when buying and selling domain names.

Some domainers have been able to profit by actively soliciting trademarked names to the TM holders, but over the long run I don't believe the damage to your reputation is worth the risk. Not to mention the potential for costly legal implications.

Anyway, apologies for getting side-tracked, but that was important to point out.

Even more important to point out is that I can't let you get away with this. For new investors, first off Joe Nichols is not a lawyer, and even if he were, his comments are pure opinion and speculation. I personally have trademarked several of my brands over the years and if anyone cares to send me a PM I'd be glad to share with you my experience. I can assure anyone reading this that I have NEVER EVER actively solicited tradmarked names, so I'm not concerned whatsoever about anyone damaging my reputation. Mr Nichols seems to insinuate that I somehow in "Bad Faith" register domains that may be in violation of trademark law which couldn't be further from the truth. As such, I consider his insinuation to be defamation, and I'm politely asking that he cease and desist his FALSE ACCUSATIONS!

 

[Joe N]

Even more important to point out is that I can't let you get away with this. For new investors, first off Joe Nichols is not a lawyer, and even if he were, his comments are pure opinion and speculation. I personally have trademarked several of my brands over the years and if anyone cares to send me a PM I'd be glad to share with you my experience. I can assure anyone reading this that I have NEVER EVER actively solicited tradmarked names, so I'm not concerned whatsoever about anyone damaging my reputation. Mr Nichols seems to insinuate that I somehow in "Bad Faith" register domains that may be in violation of trademark law which couldn't be further from the truth. As such, I consider his insinuation to be defamation, and I'm politely asking that he cease and desist his FALSE ACCUSATIONS!

Rich, my understanding is that you registered PhonePeddler.com and then contacted the owner of Peddler.com with an offer to partner. That's more or less the very definition of cyber squatting (as you so helpfully provided).

If that's not what happened, you might want to revise your above post. If it is what happened and you disagree with my opinion, that's fine, and of course you're welcome to pursue whatever course you wish.

I'm certainly not a lawyer, but I felt it was important to warn investors to do their own due diligence before engaging in a similar course of action.

Anyway, I'm done here. I was hoping your willingness to engage in meaningful conversation had changed since your latest NP restriction, but I can see that isn't the case.

Merry Christmas to you and yours!

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Rich, my understanding is that you registered PhonePeddler.com and then contacted the owner of Peddler.com with an offer to partner. That's more or less the very definition of cyber squatting (as you so helpfully provided).

If that's not what happened, you might want to revise your above post. If it is what happened and you disagree with my opinion, that's fine, and of course you're welcome to pursue whatever course you wish.

I'm certainly not a lawyer, but I felt it was important to warn investors to do their own due diligence before engaging in a similar course of action.

Anyway, I'm done here. I was hoping your willingness to engage in meaningful conversation had changed since your latest NP restriction, but I can see that isn't the case.

Merry Christmas to you and yours!

You really do need to be done here Joe Nichols "more or less" because of your "Bad Faith" FALSE ACCUSATIONS and INSINUATIONS. Like I said, I'm not the least bit concerned about my reputation by you referring to me as a cyber squatter. However, if I were you I'd be very concerned about your reputation for your behavior is way out of line.