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allinonepc.com - ALL IN ONE PC

I received an offer for this domain a few weeks ago, but must have countered too high b/c I never heard back. I'm now thinking I should have accepted the offer.... What do you all think this domain is worth?

I also have allonhere.com (ALL ON HERE). Please appraise this doman as well.

-Cliff
 
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Does no response typically mean that your domain isn't worth much?

Just asking since I'm new here and am 0 for 2 so far.
 
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I'll appraise your domain name then, give me an hour...

(um actually I need to get some sleep), I'll get back to you on this one by the end of the day I promise)

for now I'm going to guess reg fee, but we'll see after I appraise it properely.

(Ok working on it now...)
 
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I kinda of like the sound of it so I would say around low XX....

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Appraisal for allinonepc.com

**Appraisal**

I'll appraise one domain name if there is a list of my choosing. If you would like more PM me and I wouldn’t mind doing appraisals of this quality for $NP. I only have so much free time you know =).

Appraising: allinonepc.com

I'll appraise using the RVER (Research, Value, Estimate, Recommendation) Method

Please feel free to use this method when appraising others, if you copy my outline please give me credit by letting people know to visit StateExams.Org. Thanks!

---- Research ----


- Domain Availability - (Using http://domainsite.com)

Domain Availability shows your potential selling power of the domain. If the domain is so popular that people would register even TLD's of lower value, then that shows strong selling power should you decide to sell it on the name alone.

Because .COM, .NET and .ORG are the most common TLD’s they are expected to be registered if you have a good name in this field of reselling. Therefore I value names +$2.50 (half of standard $5 reg fee) for every name registered past the initial main three. The value is half of REG fee to be safe and not over estimate on the appraisal as far as value is concerned in this sector.

Below is your Availability Report...

allinonepc.com: Taken
allinonepc.net: Taken

allinonepc.org: Available
allinonepc.eu: Taken
allinonepc.in: Available
allinonepc.biz: Available
allinonepc.info: Available
allinonepc.us: Available
allinonepc.ws: Available
allinonepc.bz: Available
allinonepc.cc: Available
allinonepc.tv: Available
allinonepc.us.com: Available
allinonepc.eu.com: Available
allinonepc.web.com: Available
allinonepc.ag: Available
allinonepc.sc: Available
allinonepc.la: Available
allinonepc.hn: Available
allinonepc.cn: Available
allinonepc.am: Available
allinonepc.fm: Available
allinonepc.ac: Available
allinonepc.io: Available
allinonepc.sh: Available

(neutral value here, at least 3 registered TLD's) +$0


- KeyWord Selector Tool - (Using http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/)

The KeyWord Selector Tool is an awesome utility found at the site listed above for seeing everyday use of keywords or terms. If your term(s) has an everyday use of more then 1,000 searches that will usually raise the value of your name to most people IMHO. I usually grade keywords +$2.50 every 5000 searches done that month for it. The ratio of $2.50 cents every 5000 searches is 0.0005. If you have two keywords, the value is $1.25 for every 5000 searches on those keywords alone. The ratio in this case is 0.00025.

allinonepc ->
(all in one pc) ->
(allin one pc) ->

This can be looked at many different ways, and how you look at it can decide it's value, I'll do an overview of all the searches that show. Max value only applies to exact searchs for allinonepc with and withoutspaces.

No suggestions for allinonepc. -> (no exact searches...) -$1.00
354 all in one pc ->(nice some exact searches!) -> (+$1.78)

Now searching as 3 word...

In this case the value of all the words drops by 4, for 0.63 every 5000 searches with a ratio of, 0.000126.

382 allin -> +$0.05
117381 one -> +$14.80 -> Fixed (+$.0.74)
122821 pc -> +$15.48 -> Fixed (+$0.77)

Total -> + ($1.51)

Now that we have a general idea of the max value of these terms as 3 characters, you have to take the term with the lowest value in this case, and divide the rest of the numbers by it. There could be negative effects if you have a -$1.00 on a search term.

Now Searching as 4 word...

In this case the value of all the words drops by 8, for 0.31 every 5000 searches with a ratio of, 0.000062.

all->99375 +$6.01 (fixed)
in-> No suggestions for in. ($0)
one-> 117381 +$7.28
pc-> 122821 +$7.61

+$0.

Since a term has a negative it kills all value for the others, so selling for keyword value on a 4 word name won't help you help you here. If you were trying to sell based on your keywords, 3 is the way to go. Though I think your name has more promise in other selling areas...

+$2.29 (Final estimated Value on KeyWords)

- Relevance of Terms(s) [If multiple keyWords, or 3-4 LETTER based] -

If your domain name had multiple keywords this section is the research done to see the different potential meanings your domain name could have and the value IMHO I think would be the best way to sell it on versus others.

allin one pc
all in one pc

Now it's not very clear, but after asking a friend she said the first thing that came to mind is 'computer' obviously then, a computer with everything in it, all programs, hardware etc... So to me it seems the relevence of this name on this sell point is sites like dell.com that put together your computer so I'll say relevant for 'puting together computer site', now the word allin could also mean something on it's own like the name of a person but I think it's more relevent as 'all in one pc', and as a 'dell' computer package business

Relevent for 'Computer Package (Read to Go) Business'

- Google Searches (http://google.com) -

Google Searches shows the use of the word in everyday language and how likely someone is to see the word therefore and consider your name for sale or for personal use. Google searches of multiple terms are done using quotes now to accurately see exact uses of the phrase and just the two terms together.

I've noticed that registered TLD's start to pop up when the google market reaches about 300,000, watch try it yourself! For this reason I place reg value of roughly $2.50 (half reg fee value) at every 300,000 occurrences of the keyword, for a ratio of .0000083333

Results 1 - 10 of about 163 for "allinonepc". (0.46 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 258,000 for "all in one pc". (0.39 seconds)

(not bad for searchs on 'all in one pc', very nice)

+$2.15

- Sites Found Using the Name (Terms) -

The purpose of this section is to examine sites that use your name. If there are sites already using your name with TLD's of higher or lesser value then yours, your name has good potential selling power to those companies.

All In One Pc
www.Dell.com Shop for Dell Notebooks and More. Low Prices on Powerful Desktops!
(VERY good!)
+$5

All In One LCD PC
www.tangent.com PC & LCD All-In-One. w/ TV & WiFi The 17" LCD is the computer.
+$5
(very nice again!)

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_zdpcm/is_200409/ai_n7184422
(+$1)

http://www.epinions.com/PC_Desktops--reviews--3023_all_in_one
(+$1)

http://www.ceroview.com/peripherals/allinone.html
(+$5) excellent site using the term for business

http://www.lcdpc.com.cn/eindex.asp
(+$5) exact use of term for business

http://www.manufacturers.com.tw/computers/All-in-One-PC.html
(+$5)

http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/07/the-qbox-q600-all-in-one-pc-from-china/
(+$5) (again exact use! different companies!)

http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2006/06/philips_triplewriter_allinone_pc_writer.html
+($2.50), not exactly pc, but uses allinone keyword.

http://www.i4u.com/article5063.html
+$1.00

http://www.informationweek.com/685/85iutsh.htm
+$1.00

(That is about all I could find before sites started to re-occur over and over again. Very nice market to tap with proper advertising!

+$36.50!!

– Sales Comparables –

This is new to my appraisal method, but you can use similar domain name sales in estimating the range dollar value of your domain. To a reseller, looking at possible comparable sales of names that are similar can mean a lot to there decision in buying the name on the extra speculative value. This section determines your possible range value, for example,$200+ LOW $XXX or $200 + High $XXX etc…

Low $XXX, is $300 under, Mid $XXX is under $600 but higher then $300, high $XXX is above $600 but under $1000. Same pattern for $XXXX etc.

All the above tells you is; if you hold onto it long enough you have a chance to sell for higher then its real domain value (which I based from the other factors in this appraisal). So the question is, is there a way to predict the time it might take to sell a domain for those extra figures? After all any domain might sell for one million dollars if you waited five hundred years! To do this I try (and you should too), to find as many similar comparable domain sales as possible and find the value they sold at and how long they were on the market for when they sold for this price. Finding about 6 good domain names IMHO will be a good indicator of the time it might take you to sell your domain name for the extra speculative value.

Before you start looking though, it should be clarified what exactly counts as a sales comparable. The best way to do this is point out the key things about your name. Here is a list of some of the important things I’ve noticed that give value to domain names.

Basic Common Features…

- How many characters long are the comparables domains?
- How many keywords do the comparable domains contain?
- If using keywords, does the keyword(s) of the comparable domains contain at least one similar keyword to the domain you’re comparing it against?

Next Most Common Features…

- What kind of overture and google-market did the comparable domains names have?
- How many other TLD’s were registered on the comparable domains?

Once you find some sales comparables that match exactly in basic common features (with the exception of character length for plural versions of names) and then get then filter the list down to the ones that match (the most closest) in the Next Most Common Features (it doesn’t have to be exact, just as close as you can get), and get six of these. After doing this I feel you have a good measure of similar domains for evaluative purposes.

Being a Real Estate Agent myself, when I want to value real property I go through a similar process of finding similar sales and things in common between the properties. Domains should be no different; they are just online real property.

Now once you find decent domains for evaluating correctly, the hard part is getting the information on those domains and finding the time at which they were listed and the time at which the sold. Next most important is how much it sold for. Usually people are quick to jump the gun and just look for the how much it sold for, but IMHO this is a big mistake and will cost you many wasted dollars. IMHO, the most important thing is looking at how long it took to sell the comparable domain names, as this will decide how long you should hold it and if it’s worth it to sell now or wait.

Now all you have to do is take the median of the time taken to sell and the median of the price it sold for to get a speculative range value and time that it will take to potentially sell your domain name for it’s maximum potential value.

Here is what I found for you…

-DNSALEPRICE-

QualityPC.com $2,000 Sep 05 Afternic
GreatPCDeals.com $199 EBAY
FrozenPC.com $3,100 SnapNames
PCTrader.com $2,697 Apr 06 DNJournal

I think the one to take into most consideration here is greatpcdeals.com as it's a 3 character and most similar to yours in the aspect of selling computer packages, though frozen pc and quality pc work well we'll add them in as a comparable also, though take in mind they are 2 words, so you should cut the value down on them before coming to a decision significantly, by at least half on those so $1000 on qualitypc and $1500 on frozenpc, your looking low $X,XXX potential and these are recent sales for 06 and from 05, so probably a year range to sell for this.

- SEDO -

when searching for exact terms

all-in-one-pc.de - NO offers...

- SEDO-

when searching for pc related sale domains...

coudn't find any relevent domains with bids or sales, doesn't go well for you here... This extends your sell time to potentially 2 years now for your extra benefits.


-Developed Site Value Information-

This section is new to my appraisal method but important as well. Unlike sites that use your name, the value here is purely a way to try and find the value to the site in it’s developed state (if there is one). Now this method does not account for the value of the server it’s being hosted on or advertisements paid (and still being paid) to support it, since there is no way I can figure that out easily, so you should add in the value of the cost for you to host and what you’ve paid for already into this calculation when transferring the entire site over to someone else.

Well the first and most obvious thing anyone will be interested in as a reseller is what is its page rank and daily unique hits. Some sites are lucky and get unique hits without any advertising or development; sites such as 2-3 letter domains usually get good results with that, or one word dictionary words. The site I use to figure this out is, (http://urltrends.com). Page rank 10,9 domains would be sites like google.com and microsoft.com, while good moderate names like dog.com are page rank 4,5,6. A higher page rank is what you’re looking for in deciding its value.

Though it should be noted that page rank can be deceiving to the value of a site. You should read this article …

(http://www.clickz.com/experts/search/results/article.php/3518646),

So before buying sites based on page rank, you should make sure it’s truly worth your investment and to understand that real value comes from well placed advertising and unique clicks.

To truly understand Page-Rank and how it works visit this site, (http://www.webworkshop.net/pagerank.html)

To save you some time though, here is the sum of it all,

“PageRank is a numeric value that represents how important a page is on the web. Google figures that when one page links to another page, it is effectively casting a vote for the other page. The more votes that are cast for a page, the more important the page must be. Also, the importance of the page that is casting the vote determines how important the vote itself is. Google calculates a page's importance from the votes cast for it. How important each vote is is taken into account when a page's PageRank is calculated.” –quoted from the above link.

Below is some information that you may find useful if you want to raise the page rank value for your domain name…

(http://www.entrepreneurs-journey.com/275/pagerank-explained/)

“Google created quite a storm when it launched its green PageRank bar. Webmasters became obsessed with methods to increase their PageRank and high PageRank sites started selling text links for hundreds of dollars. A link from a high PageRank page, from a PageRank 7, 8, 9 or 10, has been known to make lower PageRank pages increase a full number, even two if the incoming link is from a PageRank 10, and there is no doubt it is good for search engine rankings.” – quoted from above link

To save you the time of how much page rank value could potentially have on the sale of your site, here is a pricing guide I’ve made. I’ll include my sources below.

(Prices set at lowest possible figures I could find)

PageRank 0-: NEGATIVE value to your domain name considerably
PageRank 1-: $0, standard page rank
PageRank 2-: $9 +
PageRank 3-: $15 +
PageRank 4-: $25 +
PageRank 5-: $30 +
PageRank 6-: $45+
PageRank 7-: $80 +
PageRank 8-: $199 +
PageRank 9-: $2000 +
PageRank 10-: $3,000.00 +

::::Sources::::

http://www.clickz.com/experts/search/results/article.php/3518646

“Previously, on the PR scale he would buy a PR 6 link for $30-60 per month. At the higher end, he'd spend up to $2,000 for a PR 9.”

(Note that my research below from other sites seems to confirm this statement here, to add to the credibility of the site below)

http://www.text-link.us/page-rank-6-933-ctg.htm

(On the site above you can see the value of selling links to people from different sites with different page ranks. This shows the potential selling power of having a high page rank name, and how much at a minimum it might add to the value of your site. Again page rank is to be looked at with a grain of a salt and careful research. It’s only a guess as to the possible unique clicks that might arise from it if you’ve read the article on how page rank works it can be deceiving and manipulative. Despite this fact, many people still buy based on page rank and therefore it does have speculative value that can be quantified as I did above.)

The next factor to consider when giving a value here is the portability of the code and the time it takes to create a site of whatever value it was that you’ve created. Again I’m going to assume the worst and hire the cheapest programmer I could find to do quality work at $12 an hour from India. Assuming this, just calculate the time it would take to make the site in hours, by getting quotes from three different programmers and you’ll have an idea of the value of your site and the time and money it would take to replicate it. Though unfortunately I won’t be able to help you here to much here very accurately, but I can give my estimate of the time it might take to create that site and the minimum I might charge as a programmer myself to get something done assuming I lived in India or some other foreign country working for the lowest price possible. Therefore I will give a range value for that in the estimate.

Development Value

Now that you have an understanding of how I came to the values I’m about to present, here is what I discovered.

Site Value:$0



- TLD - (Top-Level Domain) Value

My assessment is based on my personal experience in selling domain names.

In general the TLD's below have more positive value then other TLD's. Most other TLD's IMHO have negative value to most general names.

.COM names +$3.00 or + 3% of total value

.NET names +$1.50 +1.5% of total value
.ORG names +$1.00 +1% of total value
.BIZ names +$.20 or +.20% of total value
.US names +$.10 or +.10% of total value
.CC names +$.5 or +.5% of total value
.INFO names +$.1 or +.1% of total value

Though the value of the TLD's is also dependent on the name and the use of the TLD with it.

In most cases however, the .COM, .NET and .ORG are the way to go for general purpose names.

+$3


---- Value ----

Domain Availability Value - >$0

Pricing Guide: Neutral selling power here...

KeyWord Selector Value ->+$2.29

Pricing Guide: refer to keyword section

Relevance of Terms Value ->*approved relevant for computer package (dell) like business*

Pricing Guide:

Google Searches Value- >+$2.15

Pricing Guide:

Sites found using the name Value ->+$36.50

Pricing Guide:

Sales Comparable Range Value ->

RANGE MEDIAN:low $X,XXX
TIME MEDIAN TO SELL:TWO YEARS Possibly

Pricing Guide: refer to sales comparables. Dnsaleprice good leads, but no sedo current bids to use as time guesser. So I have to extend the time probability.

Developed Site Value ->RANGE:$0-$0

Pricing Guide: (Read development info section above)

TLD Assessment Value ->+$3

Pricing Guide: .com is the best

---- Estimated Value ----

Final Value:$43.93+Low $XXXX (2 Years)

---- Recommendation----

Your name has resellers value and end user sale value, nice name to have and worth a lot more then my original estimate, you could probably argue pretty nicely $43.93 to a reseller, but that is the most of course. Definently worth more then reg fee, and has potential to make in the low $X,XXX maybe, but more realistically since those comparables were 2 worders, you should consider the greatpcdeals.com, which is somewhat similar, yours is better then that of course and is 4 words, but that one sold for $200, despite it being a good name as well, so you might be able to get away with low $XXX if you advertised around here properely or on SEDO in a shorter time period, but for the big bucks you'll have to wait it out and probably spend advertising dollars, I only advise doing this if you have the money to do so, still a lot nicer name then I thought! Lots of site uses, make sure to contact each of those sites to see if they are interested in the domain. Decent reg there.

Good luck with your domain name.

- Joe

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Thanks for the detailed appraisal, Joe! I'm now wishing I had taken the $500 offer on SEDO. Oh well, n00b mistake I guess.
 
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Well $500 sounds similar to the greatpcdeals.com that sold, and yours is a bit better so $500 might be what it is worth to some companies, though in reality if your lucky you might pull slightly more. Hopefully this gives you an idea of it's value and where you should market it. It's marketing power is in it's brandability/site-use since it's used everywhere.
 
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