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What happens when you point 1000+ domains to an online store?


I had a situation arise in the past little while that have made me rethink of what I'm doing with my domains. Having over 1000 domains pointing idly at my landers, parked pages, or for sale pages really does not make me any money. Parking is for the pits and sales will happen regardless of where the domain points. Buyers will still find me if they really want the domain.

As most of you know by now, I run a number of businesses and some of them are successful online stores. This gave me an idea and I thought, what would happen to sales if I pointed 1000+ domains to one of my online stores?

To start with I have to say it's a pretty popular store and is fast approaching 2 million in annual sales.
Secondly one has to keep in mind that my domains are 80% .ca which are targeted to my home market.

So what happened after a little bit of experimentation?

Sales have shot through the roof, we cannot keep up with sending packages. In the first week alone we had almost a 40% increase in sales. If that is all I get from this experiment then it will translate to an $800,000 increase in sales by the end of one year. That is assuming the increase is static at 40%, I expect it to climb exponentially over the next year.

So ask me about parking again?

The best money maker I have found for my domains is to put them into actual use. Funny thing about that phrase, I was actually threatened by someone that one of my domains was not in use for commerce so I had no legitimate claim to it.

HeHe, what a good idea that was.... use it in commerce, who would have thought :xf.laugh:

PS. It also helps that I own a number of Canadian Cities in .com as well and they seem to drive quite a bit of traffic to the store.

The domains just forward to my online store so anyone wanting the domain sees it is in use but will also realize it can be purchased because it's only used as a forwarder. It's kind of a win win situation with the ultimate in parking revenue.

I should get threatened with a UDRP more often, it gives me great ideas :ROFL:


PS. ALL MEMBERS I POLITELY ASK YOU TO NOT POST ANY OF MY DOMAIN NAMES IN THIS TOPIC.
 
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they are parkingcrew

No. They were different. It was d / n / t / x. I have just recalled its name. If I remember correctly it was active around 10 years ago and as I said it's likely founder or part of PC as it's likely older. They were selling only domain redirection traffic from their own domains as well as from the domains of their members. As an advertiser, redirection was the best ad type for me. As a publisher, PPC was the best.

It's only one company I remember or know. Most probably there are/were more. Domain redirection as a traffic source is a story as old as history of domains. There were companies that run merely on ads based on domain redirection, likely before the companies in PPC, CPM, CPA, pop-ups and other ads.

Furthermore, I think that some or most big players of today likely bought domains with high type-in traffic and redirected those domains to their main sites in order to be big. I remember most short or 1 word domains were redirecting to other sites when the internet was very young. In the days with no search engines other than altavista and some similar web directory type sites, people were blindly typing one word domains dot com, including me.
 
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I had a domain which was receiving like 50 visits per day according to Sedo (old system). I redirected it to a high paying domain, and new domain's traffic didn't increase according to Sedo, and these domains didn't earn a cent.

It sounds to me you don't know it's forbidden by most ad companies and don't know how to do it under their radars even though you already correctly stated they are watching everything and they can sooner or later notice you are doing domain redirection once you scale it up. Even if they can't have any evidence, they can ask you the source of high direct traffic or simply can ban your ad account with no question or explanation as most TOS allow ad companies to do everything with publisher accounts. You may try doing it in a low level like under 5 or 10x of the original traffic, yet they can still ban your ad account. PPC companies don't consider domain redirection as a natural traffic even if it's real human traffic. For me it's an incorrect opinion. Almost all ppc companies that I know are the same in this particular issue. CPA companies seem like disagree with this incorrect opinion and practice. You should be able to redirect to CPA offers with no problem. But in CPA, there is another problem, most CPA offers count the clicks from 1 or few countries and don't pay for the clicks/conversions from other countries that are not specified. Clickbank and most physical product purchase offers that are shipped worldwide (e.g. beauty-cosmetics-weight loss materials/vitamins-food supplements/small appliances, etc) would be some exemptions to that.

I don't trust ppc programs at all, and I think they steal money.

I disagree. PPC is dead for ad blockers not for ad companies. Some of them might steal money as publishers can't know if they do. But in the long term those companies would be dead for lack of publishers and advertisers (if a company steals money from publishers, it would likely steal money from advertisers too)

Google adsense was good for several years, but now Google doesn't need affiliate programs to control internet, because they have like buttons, analytics, chrome browser, and they can spy almost everything without effort, why pay little guys for stupid clicks.

Some people itch to disclose every details of their life on social media. I doubt someone would need to spy.

Casino traffic, means 100 USD per click, and let's say I have 100 visits per day, and if landing page is ok, click rate can be 10 percent, and let's say earning per click is 10 usd, then I must earn 100 USD per day. But in reality there is zero clicks. And by rare luck if there is a click it makes zero or 1 cents. Ppc is so dead, or so full of scam, you decide which one it is.

Probably you don't know that some ad companies disallow it. Some ad companies allow only offline casinos for probably only domestic clicks. This must be a factor. Try other ad networks starting from crypto based ad networks until you find the best one for your traffic.
 
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You have proved both of them are owned by the same German company which I remember its name on their site when they were active.
You may check domain reg dates if you don't know or confuse which one is older.
So they are not PC as you said. Instead, PC is one of their companies as I said. There is a big difference if I return to my original point, domain redirection is older than PPC. Some ad companies migrated from redirection to ppc ads. They are just one example that prove my point. Of course you need to know/remember there was such a domain redirection company as I said.
by the way, they are still doing redirection by redirecting their old domain :)
 
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You have proved both of them are owned by the same German company which I remember its name on their site when they were active.
You may check domain reg dates if you don't know or confuse which one is older.
So they are not PC as you said. Instead, PC is one of their companies as I said. There is a big difference if I return to my original point, domain redirection is older than PPC. Some ad companies migrated from redirection to ppc ads. They are just one example that prove my point. Of course you need to know/remember there was such a domain redirection company as I said.
by the way, they are still doing redirection by redirecting their old domain :)


what are you talking about?

there is 1 guy

who gets domain traffic from domainers
in offering "parking" service aka noclick revenue

and selling the exact traffic
to everybody, who pays for it in an auction

using 2 different domain names
aka 2 different companies

of which one has the name parkingcrew
and the other formerly dntx is now called tonic
 
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what are you talking about?

there is 1 guy

I am talking about that domain redirection is their old business like other ppc/parking related companies. They are just one example. We are saying the same thing, except I clarify chronological order correctly in order to show domain redirection is a very old thing, is the oldest online ad type and is the oldest way to become a big internet based company.

I only disagree with the people who think domain redirection is a new idea. It's one of the oldest idea. Its age is close to the age of internet. There is no need to be a "clever guy" to see this.
 
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I think your increase in sales is most likely from higher google organic ranking from the 1000 domains linking to your site. Not from the people being forwarded to your store from one of your domains while looking for something else. Google analytics should tell you clearly how many users are coming from a referring domain or from search engine organics then you will have a clear answer.

In the SEO world, they do something similar called private blog network, by posting articles on bunch of niche domain blogs owned by the same person to boost up link juice.

In your case, a direct forward may be even more effective than simply linking from a page, thus the big spike in traffic. Note that your domains have to have some link juice power to push up your ranks.
 
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I read somewhere that this sort of PNB action( i know its not a pnb ) can create ranking penalties or ban. correct me if im wrong, no doubt i am , but thought id chime in

found the article .

https://searchengineland.com/private-blog-networks-great-way-get-site-penalized-286489

" You may have heard about private blog networks (PBNs) before, but you may not be sure what they are or why they are used. A PBN is a network of websites used to build links (and therefore pass authority) to a single website for the purpose of manipulating search engine rankings. This scheme is similar to a link wheel or link pyramid, as it involves several different websites all linking to one another or to one central website."
 
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ecomslice: Yes, that's the kind of thing that occurred to me when this thread began. It may not be bad for the main site to which all the domains are being referred, esp. if sales go up, but the domains pointing to it may acquire penalties or associations that cling to it and will matter if those domains are sold.
 
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Here are some store stats from traffic this week, it's up by 198%
I had the same increase the week before, which for me is a great result.

Traffic is steadily increasing and I'm happy about that.

PS. The statistics are for users who actually registered on the site, not straight type ins.
 
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This has turned up to be an interesting thread, thanks everyone for their valuable insights.
 
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Here are some store stats from traffic this week, it's up by 198%
I had the same increase the week before, which for me is a great result.

Traffic is steadily increasing and I'm happy about that.

PS. The statistics are for users who actually registered on the site, not straight type ins.


This is great, if the increase holds up (or gets even more) then perhaps you shouldn't worry that much about domain sales since the increase in sales for your website is probably equivalent to as if you sold two domains per month (or even per week). You might even think about adding more authoritative .ca City and Geo related domains to your portfolio.

A long time ago I had a large portfolio of .US City and Geo related domains and were trying to do something similar to what you are doing, but unlike you unfortunately my project was killed by the famous search engines that intentionally blocked .US domains and put me on the path of hardship. It's amazing how a domain extension can affect our destiny. :-/

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PBNs are not new idea, but they are risky in SEO. You may enjoy increase of traffic in short run but your website may end up penalized by Google.. I am not sure if domains forwarding is treated by Google the same as PBNs though.

Keep an eye on your Google ranking.. if u see sudden change then stop the experiment.

It would be nice if you update us about that, because all SEO info are theory.. experiment is the only way to tell the truth.
 
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Your domains seem to be pointing back to a For Sale ("View Listings" - no way to contact or buy) sort of landing page, and no longer to your store.
 
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You should see about posting pictures of Maple Girls . . .
 
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