domain bestapp.store, steam.tube, videostream.tube, youu.tube, vids.tube, xvid.tube.

bestapp.store - very good domain name
steam.tube - if it is steam, and not stream, then it does not have really much sense, only in case it would be related to some sauna activities..
videostream.tube - very good domain name
youu.tube - similar to youtube.com, I can not imagine which end user would like this - also potential of trademark issues. There might be different opinions on that, but I would personally stay away.
vids.tube - great name
xvid.tube - nice, but I can imagine potential troubles trademark, see here

regarding appraisal, you can check your terms here to see how your keywords were selling in various extensions.

It all depends on how many end users you will contact. bestapp.store and videostream.tube I would estimate like low XX XXX in 2016, youu.tube and xvid.tube I would drop, vids.tube is mid - high XXXX in 2016 with lot of effort to contact right companies imo.

bestapp.store this is a niche dominate frontend waiting to happen featuring all the best App Stores. Drop the rest Rev, they are all potential law suits and concentrate on this one, BestApp.Store. It's Gold I tells ya.

Undeveloped $500 to $2000

Regards.matt

PS.

Did I mention that the SERPs for 'Best App Store' drags on for over 7 pages?

Many thanks for your opinions!
nice to know that there is some potential domains.

what site do you recommend to use for finding the best endusers?
estibot? or similar?

is it possibly to find great endusers/companies that is after related domains for example here at namepros?

thanks again!

/R

Reveros said:

Many thanks for your opinions!
nice to know that there is some potential domains.

what site do you recommend to use for finding the best endusers?
estibot? or similar?

is it possibly to find great endusers/companies that is after related domains for example here at namepros?

thanks again!

/R

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On Namepros the probability of finding end user for them is very low at the moment.
Just use whois, see who are owners of similar names and contact the companies via email with your names.

Okey!

Many thanks, i will do that!

/R

These appraisals are head-scratchers for me. @lolwarrior and @-Matthew-, do you guys have personal experience with selling .store domain names? Do you have reason to believe they'll have a good take-up rate with end users? Unless you have have a good reason to give the OP 4 or 5-figure appraisals (this year, no less?), I think you're doing them a great disservice.

I don't know much about .store names, or even gTLDs, but I know these things:

• I've not yet seen a .store website
• The extension is quite new, and I haven't seen any data on how it's selling
• Renewal cost is more than that of a .com. Is it around $40?

Add to these risk-factors the fact that the OP has the tall task of both finding good end users and somehow convincing them to buy an extension that most people have never heard of... And 4 figures is not looking good. Heck, I'd be elated with a 3 figure sale.

@Reveros, I've read a lot of stuff from a lot of experienced people, and most of them advise staying the heck away from gTLDs unless you're prepared to:

1. Hold them for a long time (i.e. 3-5+ years); and/or
2. Work your ass off to learn the market and sell them.

Don't buy into dream appraisals. You're only going to come crashing down when it doesn't happen. Selling domains is not easy. Start small, work hard, read lots, and don't get discouraged. And stick with .com for now, preferably ones you aren't hand-registering.

@Joeguy1014
How can anybody on whole planet can have any significant sale experience with .STORE, when GA for this TLD is 06/2016? It is only 3 month old! OF course it does not have any sale records, and statistics, nothing..
There are not yet any sale experts for this TLD. So clearly there are no data yet which appraisal can take as backup. This does not mean still that we can not discuss it or somehow trying to figure out what the value is.

In new gTLDs when I appraise something, I try to think only and only about end users. Are there any end users which can use the particular domain? Will they benefit from it? Do they have enough budget? Is it small company or big company? Are there any related sales in .COM which were huge? Is there lot of competition in the industry? Etc. etc.

Based on this, when I see domain like bestapp.store and videostream.tube I can imagine there would be end users which can benefit from them. I can also imagine budgets of those companies. This is where appraisal figures comes from.

I agree with what many experienced domainers says about new gTLDs..if you do not have enough money to keep them for 3-5 years, better do not invest in them. They are not suitable for quick flips, and for sure not suitable for quick flips between domainers. I totally do not agree however that new domainers should stick with .com only..it really depends on who this new domainer is, how much money does he/she has, whether he/she needs to live from domaining and needs to make money on constant basis (flipping) or want to build some potfolio (holding). We are not all the same

lolwarrior said:

@Joeguy1014
How can anybody on whole planet can have any significant sale experience with .STORE, when GA for this TLD is 06/2016? It is only 3 month old! OF course it does not have any sale records, and statistics, nothing..
There are not yet any sale experts for this TLD. So clearly there are no data yet which appraisal can take as backup. This does not mean still that we can not discuss it or somehow trying to figure out what the value is.

In new gTLDs when I appraise something, I try to think only and only about end users. Are there any end users which can use the particular domain? Will they benefit from it? Do they have enough budget? Is it small company or big company? Are there any related sales in .COM which were huge? Is there lot of competition in the industry? Etc. etc.

Based on this, when I see domain like bestapp.store and videostream.tube I can imagine there would be end users which can benefit from them. I can also imagine budgets of those companies. This is where appraisal figures comes from.

I agree with what many experienced domainers says about new gTLDs..if you do not have enough money to keep them for 3-5 years, better do not invest in them. They are not suitable for quick flips, and for sure not suitable for quick flips between domainers. I totally do not agree however that new domainers should stick with .com only..it really depends on who this new domainer is, how much money does he/she has, whether he/she needs to live from domaining and needs to make money on constant basis (flipping) or want to build some potfolio (holding). We are not all the same

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Yeah, I get that there isn't a lot of data yet, but that's kind of my point... Where does a five figure appraisal come from for an okay two-word ngTLD in an extension that is totally new? I know it's your opinion, all I'm saying is that it's not actually based on anything.

And because the OP seems to be new to domaining, it's irresponsible to provide him with such a dreamy appraisal without saying something like, "I'm pulling this number out of my butt, because I like the name." For all he knows, you guys are super savvy ngTLD salesmen, and he's off to register 100 more of them because he's so excited.

The domains are what they are... they're fine, and yes there could be an interested end user. But your comparables would be names like bestappstore.com and videostreamtube.com. I doubt anyone would pay $10,000 for those.

Here are the closest comparables I can find on Namebio, but there are very few, and the most recent was from 2013:

streamtube.com 1,310 USD 2013-11-25 NameJet
streamtube.com 2,100 USD 2011-11-29 NameJet
miniappstore.com 1,200 USD 2013-06-10 Afternic
freeappstore.com 1,000 USD 2012-07-16 GoDaddy
cloudappstore.com 12,789 USD 2011-03-22 Sedo
appstore.info 989 USD 2010-05-18 Sedo
appstore.de 1,330 USD 2009-04-14 Sedo

And no recorded sales beginning with "BestApp".

Based on these sales, the fact that the names are ngTLDs, and the fact that long keyword names seem to be losing value, I would look for something in the low to mid XXX range if approaching an end user. Either that, or hold hold hold for a good long time and hope that .store stays the course and gains a following.

Well now I guess there are two appraisals, lower which is yours, and higher which is mine. I understand your point of view very well, but also your appraisal is not based on actual sales data (all you can do at the moment is to look at reported .com sales, which is of course best you can do, but those are not actual sale data for the particular new gTLD).

So basically we both are just guessing imo. To your approach of using .com comparisons, one really needs to keep in mind that most people who are selling their domains privately are absolutely not going to report their sales to Namebio or similar services..and you can achieve much higher price in many cases when contacting right end user privately, then by using services like NameJet, GoDaddy, Afternic, etc which are automatically reported at Namebio. So basically what is publicly reported are those lower sales (when you take it in average).

I would also like to add, then when we appraise names, we do not take into consideration ability of domain owner to sell his name. And this makes all the difference in new gTLDs resales : I can sell my name in auction here in NP for 13 USD (if I am lazy, which I am many times, but I sell here only quite lousy .com names which somehow came to my way) or I can be sending well though and structured emails to end users and follow-up for weeks with them..then I can achieve 100-1000 x higher ROI. New gTLDs are not like .com at this stage: if you have great .com, you can just post it somewhere and conveniently wait for offers to come. When you have great new gTLD combo, you need to be very proactive at the moment, it is absolutely not enough to buy it and wait. I have several hundreds of them so I know what I am speaking about. So honestly, when I see some name and request for appraisal for new gTLD, I can give some, but I guess it is up to domain owner to really discover and create (by doing right things) value for his name, nobody can do it for him. Of course, when it is crap, it is crap, then you can not do anything with it

Well... you're still guessing. I'm estimating based on real data. Not complete data, of course, but it gives us a small baseline on which we can make a more informed opinion. And if you can give me some examples of ngTLD names selling for more money than their .com counterparts then I'm all ears! I bet it's a very rare occurrence. The new extensions simply don't carry the cost clout of their .com cousins.

Web.site might look cooler, but you'll get a hell of a lot more for Website.com!

I'm afraid I don't agree that contacting end users leads to higher sales than inbound enquiries. If you're reaching out to potential buyers, you're approaching them from a point of weakness, as someone who really wants to make a sale. You're never going to get a premium price for a name that way unless your name is of premium quality.

Let's look at some other factors:

Related domain names - ZFbot says there are 13 sites that use "BestAppStore". Looks like only one of those is an active site (BestAppStore.com), and from the looks of it, they won't be coughing up $10,000 for a DN anytime soon. Probably a dead end, but certainly worth a try.

Quantity/Quality of end users - Obviously this isn't going to sell to Google Play or the Apple App Store, but there are plenty of 3rd party app stores (the natural targeted end user for this name). Best bet would likely be to approach them. Here are some of the top ones: http://joyofandroid.com/android-app-store-alternatives/ But again, are they going to pay $10,000? They already have cool, short, brandable names. So your only real sales pitch is to highlight the 1K-10K searches that your keywords get per month. Maybe they'll want to shell out a few hundred for some potential extra traffic, but I wouldn't count on more than that.

So while you say you can "imagine" end users and "imagine" big budgets, doing a little research shows that the options are pretty limited when it comes to end users who would be genuinely interested.

These are all the factors I take into account when I tell the OP to keep expectations low if he's peddling the name right away. No imagining, no guessing, no vague declarations of "I would pay $2000 if I were an end user.". Just looking at some real information that's available to us.

I basically agree with most of your post. However I have one objection, and this is why we probably valuate name like bestapp.store differently:

For those 3rd party app stores which you mentioned in your link, your opinion is that they already have cool, short, brandable names. I personally do not like their names at all, except 2 names which I would say are ok. From obvious reasons I do not want to post here exactly which ones I do not like, but some of them are just horrible! They even do not indicate that website has something similar with app store..

This is the problem with .com : almost nobody is able to get good name, the name which indicates nature of their business. So companies go for "bradable" names..every bad name you can imagine is called "brandable"..If I have some pretty bad domain, I will also call it "brandable"..what else should I call it, when I want to sell it? It has to be "brandable" and nothing else!

Issue with brandability is this one: if the name does not indicate what your business is about, you need to spend money to promote that awareness, that link between the name and nature of your business, and you need to spend those money every time, day by day, year by year. If your name is pretty indicative about what is your business about (consist of general keywords at least partially), you can save lot of money.

Now, BestApp.Store can save you lot of money, you can even trademark it as it is! And everybody can see immediately what is your business about. Brandable names in some cases are super great, but in many cases (when your company is not huge and can not spend top dollar for advertising and creating above mentioned link) are just burying the business completely. So I see few candidates from your link to spend 10K for BestApp.Store, they would do much better in their business imo if they rename

I get you're point but you're kind of contradicting yourself... Companies can't afford a lot for their domain, so they go for a brandable one. And yet you're expecting them to pay 10K for this one? It doesn't add up. Most end users only care about .com or .net.

You're right that good .coms are hard to come by. They're expensive. And this is the other reason companies will choose to use a new gTLD: because it's available, and it's cheap. Companies looking for a cheap name are not paying 10K, or even 2K. If they're willing to spend that, they're getting a .com, or a really amazing gTLD (which this is not).

Joeguy1014 said:

and he's off to register 100 more of them because he's so excited.

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+1

Well, particularly for APPs selling store you can buy either :
- brandable .com (some of them are pretty ugly names, still costs 2500 + per name)
- nice indicative new gTLD combo (which is the case of BestApp.Store for the cost of 10k)
- very nice new gTLD combo (which is the case of App.Store, which I would value at 100k+)
- very nice .COM (something like Apps.Com - for 1mil+ imo)

whatever is the budget, there is something for everyone. Before arrival of new gTLDs, you either would buy some "bradable" or you then had to splash huge amount of money for some really meaningful .com. Now situation is more tricky, which is good

I'm just wondering where you're getting these values from...?

The only 5 figure sale of a two word ngTLD I could find was for RealEstate.Property.

And of course instead of paying 10K for this name, they could always just hand register bestapp.club or bestapp.software...

BestApp.co is available for $900
BestApp.software - hand reg

Yes, but BestApp.club is not BestApp.store..store is meant for shopping and club is meant for private organisations. Here .store makes more sense (if it is not for some club of people who bought app from the site, lol)

The second example, BestApp.software is better..here I would agree that it would serve some purpose.
Still I would prefer to have BestApp.store for the business.

I guess we had done some deep analysis for @Reveros domain

Lol. Definitely. He has a lot of information to pour through.

Hi guys!

I wasn't expecting that!
This was really interesting reading, and yes a deep analysis for this domain.
I will take all of your thoughts and experience in consider for future buys/sells of domains.

Of course i will try to share you more information if for example bestapp.store is going to be a hit or not.

Thanks for sharing!

Best regards,
Robin

i think to evaluate domain you should opt for the genuine site....

I had forgotten about this discussion!

@lolwarrior, do you still feel as passionately today about the value of bestapp.store as you did 2.5 years ago?

Joe Nichols said:

I had forgotten about this discussion!

@lolwarrior, do you still feel as passionately today about the value of bestapp.store as you did 2.5 years ago?

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Sure I love .store extension.

I am however less passionate about word1word strings though, as I have learned they have lower probabilities to sell, comparing to what I was thinking 2,5 years ago.

Chose domain which is catchy.

I think best app for streaming videos is YouTube. It always the best app and in YouTube you can find almost everything.