discuss Scamm alert Iuga Petru Ovidiu - "Ori la bal ori la spital" in eng "we go or to party or to hospital"

Can't follow any of this, I can't even get past that this is all over......vege.us

We need the comic version, complete with POW moments.

Never ever forget ........ VEGE.US!

Looks like @BaileyUK explains it best?

There are no scammers here, just two people who misunderstood each other, as both tried to make some quick money off each other?

Both seemed to had good intentions, just lost in translations?

A note to self, jokes don’t translate well, “Shakrsbere is better in original Klingon”

winst said:

Looks like @BaileyUK explains it best?

There are no scammers here, just two people who misunderstood each other, as both tried to make some quick money off each other?

Both seemed to had good intentions, just lost in translations?

A note to self, jokes don’t translate well, “Shakrsbere is better in original Klingon”

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I see you too didn't understand what's going on here. Let me translate it in my head into Greek and back to English from the original Romanian papyrus:

Amanda said:

At this time the duplicate accounts have been closed and the original account has been warned.

Thank you for alerting me to this issue.

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Ok, I just read the other thread as well, and then 2 recent comments asking what I'm wondering as well. Why warning and not straight up ban?

Seems this OP made a big mistake playing between two accounts, and especially in taking JM's money.

What may have been a confused person that saw their domain listed for sale and thinking he was somehow being scammed, turned into pulling a scam on JM.

I read the broken English and see clearly that the DC account said they would pay 1500 just to trick JM into buying it.

Bad business.

JB Lions said:

Ok, I just read the other thread as well, and then 2 recent comments asking what I'm wondering as well. Why warning and not straight up ban?

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This is still under investigation.

As far as we can tell from the data we've reviewed so far, @Daniel Capusan and @Backorder-ing.com are not the same person, but @Backorder-ing.com did use the account @Daniel Capusan for several weeks.

We will provide an update once we have more information.

What the heck is this!?? after many attempts to understand i didnt!
is there any other short version of this

omarte said:

What the heck is this!?? after many attempts to understand i didnt!
english is murdered!

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English is a West Germanic language - don’t you know

So a reporter found out a local bar bought KFC, put it on a bun and sell it as a high-end sandwich. Some people thought it was unethical, some people thought it was just capitalism.

Originally the reporter only wanted to know if it was KFC or Popeye’s at the bar.

omarte said:

What the heck is this!?? after many attempts to understand i didnt!
is there any other short version of this

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Short version: The OP is a scammer.

Pedro Santos said:

Short version: The OP is a scammer.

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No wait, this other thread by him has totally changed my mind:
https://www.namepros.com/threads/i-have-best-domain-name-in-the-world-crypt-com-idn.1078116/

Michael Ehrhardt said:

English is a West Germanic language - don’t you know

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Yes, but Romanian is from the Romance group, not Germanic.

Is this what happened?

1) Romanian asks for help looking for domain.

2) Judge sees the domain is on Sedo and offers price plus hunter/obtain fee.

3) Romanian is actually the seller as well.

4) Judge buys the domain from Romanian on Sedo not knowing he is being played by buyer/seller combo.

5) Romanian no longer wants to buy the domain because he is really the seller and he was just trying to catch the Sedo bandit.

Am I confused?

shig said:

Am I confused?

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Only if you don't know where to pick up your prize.

shig said:

Is this what happened?

1) Romanian asks for help looking for domain.

2) Judge sees the domain is on Sedo and offers price plus hunter/obtain fee.

3) Romanian is actually the seller as well.

4) Judge buys the domain from Romanian on Sedo not knowing he is being played by buyer/seller combo.

5) Romanian no longer wants to buy the domain because he is really the seller and he was just trying to catch the Sedo bandit.

Am I confused?

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I think this the story but i didn't get the sedo part!

This is what I think:

1) @Backorder-ing.com saw someone on SEDO selling a domain he owns, believed to be a scammer, Looking to expose the scammer if he is on NP.

2) @JudgeMind misunderstood the intention, believed it was an opportunity to make some money and asked @Backorder-ing.com if he wants to buy the domain name

3) @Backorder-ing.com believed @JudgeMind was the scammer he was looking for, offered to buy for $1400, because @Backorder-ing.com knows @JudgeMind did not "own" the domain name.

4) @Backorder-ing.com received a $400 offer but weren't sure it was from @JudgeMind, and did not want to pass up the opportunity, so he sold the domain name.

5) After receiving the domain name, @JudgeMind offered to sell the domain name to @Backorder-ing.com for $1400

6) @Backorder-ing.com says "Ah Ha, now I exposed you trying to scam me, real brokers don't buy a $400 domain and sell it for $1400"

7) @JudgeMind says, "You are the scammer here because you agreed to buy the domain name using my Brokerage Service on NP but refused to pay. There is nothing wrong with buy low and sell high"

8) Both realized what was really going on. Money refunded and domain name returned.

winst said:

This is what I think:

1) @Backorder-ing.com saw someone on SEDO selling a domain he owns, believed to be a scammer, Looking to expose the scammer if he is on NP.

2) @JudgeMind misunderstood the intention, believed it was an opportunity to make some money and asked @Backorder-ing.com if he wants to buy the domain name

3) @Backorder-ing.com believed @JudgeMind was the scammer he was looking for, offered to buy for $1400, because @Backorder-ing.com knows @JudgeMind did not "own" the domain name.

4) @Backorder-ing.com received a $400 offer but weren't sure it was from @JudgeMind, and did not want to pass up the opportunity, so he sold the domain name.

5) After receiving the domain name, @JudgeMind offered to sell the domain name to @Backorder-ing.com for $1400

6) @Backorder-ing.com says "Ah Ha, now I exposed you trying to scam me, real brokers don't buy a $400 domain and sell it for $1400"

7) @JudgeMind says, "You are the scammer here because you agreed to buy the domain name using my Brokerage Service on NP but refused to pay. There is nothing wrong with buy low and sell high"

8) Both realized what was really going on. Money refunded and domain name returned.

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Don't forget the horrible English skills not helping the alleged & accused scammer

winst said:

This is what I think:

1) @Backorder-ing.com saw someone on SEDO selling a domain he owns, believed to be a scammer, Looking to expose the scammer if he is on NP.

2) @JudgeMind misunderstood the intention, believed it was an opportunity to make some money and asked @Backorder-ing.com if he wants to buy the domain name

3) @Backorder-ing.com believed @JudgeMind was the scammer he was looking for, offered to buy for $1400, because @Backorder-ing.com knows @JudgeMind did not "own" the domain name.

4) @Backorder-ing.com received a $400 offer but weren't sure it was from @JudgeMind, and did not want to pass up the opportunity, so he sold the domain name.

5) After receiving the domain name, @JudgeMind offered to sell the domain name to @Backorder-ing.com for $1400

6) @Backorder-ing.com says "Ah Ha, now I exposed you trying to scam me, real brokers don't buy a $400 domain and sell it for $1400"

7) @JudgeMind says, "You are the scammer here because you agreed to buy the domain name using my Brokerage Service on NP but refused to pay. There is nothing wrong with buy low and sell high"

8) Both realized what was really going on. Money refunded and domain name returned.

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Money refunded but domain name still not returned ..yet but let's not judge the JM to early..remaining some time until dead line

What a story
Glad to hear that things got resolved!
Hope that Backorder-ing.com get the domain back as well!

Backorder-ing.com said:

Money refunded but domain name still not returned ..yet but let's not judge the JM to early..remaining some time until dead line

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Hi,

If you & the other account are not the same individual, then I apologize..

You posted identical threads etc...

sorry

Thanks

omarte said:

What a story
Glad to hear that things got resolved!
Hope that Backorder-ing.com get the domain back as well!

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Fact about me
Maybe i have my sins ( maybe i will tell my biggest sin in domain names business some day.. ) no doubt, but NEVER - NEVER when i get the money for a domain i sell , ALWAYS i deliver the domain since from 2010

MS-Domains said:

Hi,

If you & the other account are not the same individual, then I apologize..

You posted identical threads etc...

sorry

Thanks

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...no problem MS-DO ..Cheers

Update:

Iuga's account is @Backorder-ing.com. Daniel is a distinct person, and he is not Iuga, but Iuga did use Daniel's account. Daniel let Iuga use his domain-related accounts (e.g., Sedo and NamePros) for the purposes of helping Daniel sell his domain names, because Daniel does not have time to manage his own domain portfolio. All of the evidence that we've reviewed indicates that Daniel did not have anything to do with this incident other than Iuga using Daniel's account, and Daniel only authorized Iuga to use Daniel's account for selling, not to try to catch a potential scammer on Sedo.

Dave's account is @JudgeMind (not to be confused with Daniel).

With the naming all clear, here is what happened according to Iuga:

Iuga added the domain name to his Sedo account, and a few days later, it was removed from his Sedo account. One of the reasons a domain is removed from a Sedo account is when Sedo moves the domain to someone else's account (after an automated verification or manual review). Iuga noticed that his domain was listed for sale with a Buy-It-Now price on Sedo by someone else. Iuga then created a Buyer Request thread for the domain name to see if he could find the person that listed his domain for sale on Sedo. Iuga still had possession of his domain name the entire time.

We have received verified video proof that the domain name was removed from Iuga's Sedo account on the same day that he created the Buyer Request thread. It was not removed afterwards to corroborate his story. Iuga told the truth about his domain being deleted from his Sedo account before this incident.

While the details of the deal were being discussed between Iuga and Dave, Iuga made it clear that the deal had to be completed through Sedo, which at the time, Iuga still had possession of the domain and it would have been impossible for the deal to take place. In order words, Dave expected a deal that was discussed when Dave did not have possession of the domain to be binding. If Iuga did not later sell the domain to Dave, then Dave would have been unable to honor such a deal.

Iuga also inquired about Dave's location in his very first direct message with Dave, presumably to see if it matched the location on the Sedo account of the person that listed Iuga's domain for sale without his permission. Dave's messages to Iuga were vague, presumably in an effort to quickly flip the domain for a profit. Since Dave was not entirely clear/upfront initially and he did not indicate whether he owned the domain name, it led Iuga to believe Dave was the person that listed Iuga's domain for sale on Sedo. Iuga thought Dave was a scammer trying to sell Iuga's domain name (first on Sedo and then on NamePros due to Iuga's Buyer Request thread).

From the start, Iuga's intentions appear solely centered around identifying the person that listed his domain name for sale as opposed to trying to get paid for a bait and switch.

However, once Dave reached out to buy the domain name from Iuga outside of NamePros using the Whois details on Iuga's domain name, Iuga felt he had confirmed his suspicion that Dave was the scammer and Iuga decided he would "punish" Dave by selling him the domain name. Then Iuga realized that Dave was not the scammer, and Iuga offered to refund the payment, but he asked Dave to talk on the phone first to clear up everything that had happened. Iuga sent several more messages to Dave and claimed to make several phone calls to Dave, but Dave had already left the conversation and blocked Iuga's phone number. As a result, the refund had not been sent yet by the time we got involved.

We initiated a conversation between Dave and Iuga to resolve the dispute. Iuga refunded the money, and Dave has informed us that PayPal told him it could take 3-5 days to clear. Once the refund shows in Dave's PayPal account, Dave has agreed to transfer the domain name back to Iuga.

Our determination is that this incident happened because of poor communication between them and both parties having their own agendas that they did not share in full with the other party.

We will provide further updates if we learn anything else that is relevant and helpful.

Clearly a blatant scam right from the start. Disappointing to see they are going to walk away without any action against them. Whatever BS story they made up must have worked.

Note: they had zero intention of refunding me until I threatened legal action against them and ousted them publicly.

Let the community decide if they were wrongful or not I guess. I got my refund, I’m out. Cheers!