discuss 4L CHIPS: Wasn't it the best example of pump and dump?

toughdomains said:

dont think it was a pump and dump but these domains were a means of circumventing capital controls of other countries. not something we really have in US but then crypto got popular and it was much easier to liquidate bitcoin than a 4 letter .com so the money shifted there. if anything I personally added some 4 letters to my port and as long as every name you buy is better than your best everyone should have a better port today. Im happy with the attention it got and happy with the names I picked up...thats whats great about domaining no matter the new trend or a new job. there maybe a new job market created with cryptotraders and you can bet the bank that domainers already snagged all the crypto names.. trends come and go but what is certain is every trend past, present and future will need a name to resolve to...and we will be right there waiting for their offers. Domain on! Im still waiting for robots to take over and someone to invent a security system to prevent it...picked up roboticsercurity in king years ago from some guy in france.

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wwwweb said:

At that time in 2015, I owned about 400 4L.com's, one day after checking my spam box, I started seeing an influx of Chinese language emails, asking about 4L.com, many were the same email for different characters. I would have never seen the aeiouv side of it on my own, but now they were only asking for the domains that did not have those letters. Sure enough, I figured it out on another forum what was going on, I did a quick spreadsheet export, got a highlighter, and started circling which was like winning lotto tickets. Today I probably have about 200 4L.com's left, I sold about 70 of my chips, kept 3 of my untouchables without vowels, but it was a gift, and there was absolutely no other end users out there for domains like ZKXJ etc... The people that owned them for several years knew exactly what was up, as they had the traffic, and inquiries, it was as easy as putting 10 in a bundle, and putting it into escrow, and getting $22K payout in a few days, rinse, and repeat, it was simply amazing, and it came around xmas which was even better.

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domeen said:

You like copyd my story out of those 400 I had like 150 of those so called CHIPS

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kemjika11 said:

4L was not a pump and dump. Some people didnt understand or accept the value of 4Ls so when the market went "crazy" they called it "pump and dump"(Just like when people didnt buy the right names at the right times they come on NP and say "prices are too high"-no, ur timing is just off).

If .com was and is still king how would short names like 4Ls be pump and dump when they are still relevant today and activelyselling? yes prices might not be at their peak now, but thats not odd. prices often go up and down. who says prices wont go up in the future considering supply keeps shrinking?

Am tired of comments like pump and dump and this and that. sounds to me like whining from people who didnt do the right buying at the right time. I didnt either with 4Ls, but am not complaining. they were a good category of domains to invest in. the smart pple are making money, the blockheads r complaining or saying it the chinese who messed it up(how are more investors in domains bad for us?).

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kemjika11 said:

4L was not a pump and dump. Some people didnt understand or accept the value of 4Ls so when the market went "crazy" they called it "pump and dump"(Just like when people didnt buy the right names at the right times they come on NP and say "prices are too high"-no, ur timing is just off).

If .com was and is still king how would short names like 4Ls be pump and dump when they are still relevant today and activelyselling? yes prices might not be at their peak now, but thats not odd. prices often go up and down. who says prices wont go up in the future considering supply keeps shrinking?

Am tired of comments like pump and dump and this and that. sounds to me like whining from people who didnt do the right buying at the right time. I didnt either with 4Ls, but am not complaining. they were a good category of domains to invest in. the smart pple are making money, the blockheads r complaining or saying it the chinese who messed it up(how are more investors in domains bad for us?).

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domeen said:

Where you not one of those bumpers? Who pushed those 5 letter chip.nets?

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Grilled said:

456,976 total 4L.com
160,000 4L.com without A, E, I, O, U, V (Total # of 4L CHIPS)

Price X Market Size = Marketcap

$2.500 per 4L CHIP = 400 million dollar maketcap
$2.000 per 4L CHIP = 320 million dollar marketcap
$1.500 per 4L CHIP = 240 million dollar marketcap
$1,000 per 4L CHIP = 160 million dollar marketcap
$500 per 4L CHIP = 80 million dollar marketcap
$100 per 4L CHIP = 16 million dollar marketcap



4,000 CHIPS at $2500 each would be $10,000,000
4,000 X $10 renewal X 6 years = $240,000 in renewal fee's.
Net = $9,760,000

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biggie said:

the P&D wasn't so much with 4 letters, it was everything after 4 letter.com

like 4 letter .info with BBCC patterns, then 5 letters .mobi, then 6 letters and so on


if you already owned chinesepremium.com before chinesepremium.com became chips, then it's still all gravy

imo...

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Nem0 said:

Sorry but, thats just ignorant.

I’ve sold thousands of LLLL.com over the years and always will. This past month I sold hudn $3800, cwat $1200, wobz $3500, reeq $2500, rubk $1850 and some other smaller sales.

4L with decent letters all have a bright future. 4L chips and such with so-so letters should get a bump up in price again this winter like they have the past two years.

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