discuss .LINK binge continues

[ThatNameGuy]

".LINK is no worse than .XYZ".....like the .com loyalists despising the .xyz insurgence, the .xyz loyalists despise the .link insurgence.

While most of the really good "single word" .link domains have been registered still a few remain. For example, the day after Thanksgiving I was able to register Thankfulness.link that happens to be no worse than Thankfulness.xyz or Thankfulness.com.

In the way of an update.....domains under management aka DUM has grown from 200,000 to 221,000 since May, and 1,500 of those I've registered. In addition, i have it from some reliable sources that "Good News is Coming"

 

[bmugford]

The most similar recent(ish) launch would have been that of .MOBI and it was intended to be the TLD for the mobile Internet. That gTLD has been in decline for a few years now. It was overtaken by technology and the launch of the Apple iPhone. There are only 346 Irish hosted .MOBI. Most of those are brand protection registrations. The 01 Jan 2023 count for .MOBI was 279,548.

It is amazing that .mobi still has that many registrations. I wonder what percentage are just brand protection domains, getting autorenewed in company domain portfolios.

If you think .mobi is bad, what about .tel? That pitch was so dated even when that extension arrived.

Brad

 

[jmcc]

It is amazing that .mobi still has that many registrations. I wonder what percentage are just brand protection domains, getting autorenewed in company domain portfolios.

A lot of them.

If you think .mobi is bad, what about .tel? That pitch was so dated even when that extension arrived.

It was a great idea for the pre-smartphone era and the application was submitted around the same time as that of .BIZ and .INFO. ICANN didn't approve it then. By the time that ICANN did approve it and the gTLD went active, the market had moved on. The .TEL (45,714 yesterday) was also not on Godaddy for its launch. It was a bit more DNS based and wasn't really a website orientated gTLD.

Regards...jmcc

 

[ThatNameGuy]

It is a similar situation with other markets in Europe too, Brad,
The .IE is by far the most advertised. The .UK (There is a considerable TV market overlap between Ireland and the UK. Most of the UK TV channels are available on Irish cable TV (since the 1970s) and via satellite TV and off-air in some areas.) is probably the third most recognisable after .IE and .COM. The .EU is not widely used and the Irish hosted .EU websites have a lower web usage than .BIZ. The UK market (.UK) and the German market (.DE) have two of the largest ccTLDs in the world.

The .LINK is, according to the country of registrar breakdowns, US dominated. Much of its market, especially resale, will be in the US.

The most similar recent(ish) launch would have been that of .MOBI and it was intended to be the TLD for the mobile Internet. That gTLD has been in decline for a few years now. It was overtaken by technology and the launch of the Apple iPhone. There are only 346 Irish hosted .MOBI. Most of those are brand protection registrations. The 01 Jan 2023 count for .MOBI was 279,548.

Resale, perhaps. But in terms of usage it isn't good. It only has 101 Irish hosted. XYZ domain names. The .IRISH had 814 Irish hosted regs. Even that finds it difficult to compete with .IE even though the reg/renewal fees for a .IE can be up to 30 Euro/Dollars.

Like many of the 2012 round of new gTLDs, it is a solution in search of a problem. The Truckstop TLD nature makes it somewhat different but it really needed a lot of expensive marketing when it launched. It still does if it is to gain any market awareness. One possibility would be to try tie it in with IDN (Non-Latin character domain names) domain names as an easy redirect for those without the relevant charactersets on their keyboards. But that gets into other markets and requirements.

Regards...jmcc

Excellent overall analysis jmcc. I see your point about Ireland and .link, but keep in mind I paid just $2.39 (the equivalent of a cup of coffee @ Starbucks) for it. However I did buy/register at the same time; VisitAmerica.link,
VisitVegas.link, VisitOrlando.link, VisitLA.link and a few others.

There are some things I'd like to say about the word "link", and you may want to consider me an expert for just a few minutes ago I renewed WordProdigy.com......moving on, the word "link" is a keyword and last I checked "com" and "xyz" are not. You need to look no further than our friend Brad Mugford's signature where he say's Add me; Linkedin.

Finally, with over 800M members, most all "business owners" and domain "end users" are familiar with Linkedin thus making the connection with the new gTLD .LINK obvious imo. What's needed, and you said it jmcc is "effective marketing". Thanks again.

 

[branding]

Just out of interest, are you in a country where the ccTLD is the dominant TLD?

Yes, The Netherlands and it's exactly like you say. Exceptions to the rule aside, you would expect a business to use their EMD .nl.

That being said, a dot com is 100% known by the public, as are most legacy TLDs.

Most business owners are not domainers. They often go with what their web developers suggest. It isn't really a case of being misinformed so much as being uninformed.

Agreed. More accurate.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Yes, The Netherlands and it's exactly like you say. Exceptions to the rule aside, you would expect a business to use their EMD .nl.

That being said, a dot com is 100% known by the public, as are most legacy TLDs.



Agreed. More accurate.

"That being said, a dot com is 100% known by the public, as are most legacy TLDs"

and therein lies a HUGE opportunity as i see it. Just for jmcc i registered StatisticalAnalysis.link being that Mike Mann's Domain Market is asking $794,888 for the .com, or they'll lease it for $33,128 for 24 months Bottom line, "the public" like jmcc is simply uninformed, and it's my goal to inform the public

 

[bmugford]

and therein lies a HUGE opportunity as i see it. Just for jmcc i registered StatisticalAnalysis.link being that Mike Mann's Domain Market is asking $794,888 for the .com, or they'll lease it for $33,128 for 24 months Bottom line, "the public" like jmcc is simply uninformed, and it's my goal to inform the public

The .COM is worth something. No other extension is worth anything resale wise.

The opportunity here is for the registry to take your money, a few dollars at a time.

Brad

 

[Joe N]

The .COM is worth something. No other extension is worth anything resale wise.

The opportunity here is for the registry to take your money, a few dollars at a time.

Brad

Or $15K at a time...

 

[branding]

Bottom line, "the public" like jmcc is simply uninformed, and it's my goal to inform the public

Not quite. It's endusers being uninformed hence they buy shitty extensions. Not the public. You cannot expect the public to feel at ease with hundreds of options for a tld when they've been 'trained' to expect a .com or cctld.

You can educate endusers though.

That's basically the bottom line of this thread I guess. Stay away from just about any obscure tld as that isn't going to do your business any good unless you know exactly what you're doing.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Not quite. It's endusers being uninformed hence they buy shitty extensions. Not the public. You cannot expect the public to feel at ease with hundreds of options for a tld when they've been 'trained' to expect a .com or cctld.

You can educate endusers though.

That's basically the bottom line of this thread I guess. Stay away from just about any obscure tld as that isn't going to do your business any good unless you know exactly what you're doing.

Actually by "the public" we were referring to endusers. Here was a quote by jmcc earlier on in this thread;

"Most business owners are not domainers. They often go with what their web developers suggest. It isn't really a case of being misinformed so much as being uninformed."

Thus it's my goal to inform/educate the enduser who 9 times out of 10 is a business person like me. The purpose of this thread is more to gain a modicum of credibility with domainers not unlike yourself. Endusers don't visit this message board....but they generally listen to their business peers

btw, to show that I'm not on a one way street with .link, i just registered LeasingIncome(.)com in order to attract domain investors. And for my NP peers, I've made friends with the founder of iApp Systems who seems to understand the opportunity I've been referring to here on this thread. Check him out if you'd like.....be my guest

 

[ThatNameGuy]

The .COM is worth something. No other extension is worth anything resale wise.

The opportunity here is for the registry to take your money, a few dollars at a time.

Brad

"The .COM is worth something. No other extension is worth anything resale wise."

So if I had to name my company Data Cube and I discovered that DataCube.com was taken, do you seriously believe a viable alternative extension isn't worth anything? Come on Brad.....Econ 101 says differently

 

[bmugford]

"The .COM is worth something. No other extension is worth anything resale wise."

So if I had to name my company Data Cube and I discovered that DataCube.com was taken, do you seriously believe a viable alternative extension isn't worth anything? Come on Brad.....Econ 101 says differently

I was referring to that specific term, not in general.

There is hardly any interest in single word .LINK and you are moving on to relatively obscure, long, multi-word terms. That makes no sense.

Maybe if was a commercially viable term like Real Estate, Car Insurance, etc.

However, when the term is "statistical analysis" in .LINK...come on man.
The term is not even taken in .ORG. That is just flushing money down the toilet.

At least buy terms that have a chance.

Brad

 

[bmugford]

Thus it's my goal to inform/educate the enduser who 9 times out of 10 is a business person like me. The purpose of this thread is more to gain a modicum of credibility with domainers not unlike yourself. Endusers don't visit this message board....but they generally listen to their business peers

btw, to show that I'm not on a one way street with .link, i just registered LeasingIncome(.)com in order to attract domain investors. And for my NP peers, I've made friends with the founder of iApp Systems who seems to understand the opportunity I've been referring to here on this thread. Check him out if you'd like.....be my guest

Yeah, you have been talking about this for years. When are you going to start actually doing it?

The same could be said about .online, .homes, .realty, or any other extensions you "binged" on in the past.

Brad

 

[Joe N]

Yeah, you have been talking about this for years. When are you going to start actually doing it?

The same could be said about .online, .homes, .realty, or any other extensions you "binged" on in the past.

Brad

Here here! How many more times do we have to hear about how @ThatNameGuy is going to sell domains by educating end users? Get to work already.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

I was referring to that specific term, not in general.

There is hardly any interest in single word .LINK and you are moving on to relatively obscure, long, multi-word terms. That makes no sense.

Maybe if was a commercially viable term like Real Estate, Car Insurance, etc.

However, when the term is "statistical analysis" in .LINK...come on man.
The term is not even taken in .ORG. That is just flushing money down the toilet.

At least buy terms that have a chance.

Brad

You mean DataCube.link isn't a viable alternative if DataCube.com is already taken Brad, you waste a lot of time following me....am i that charming. Several domainers here on NP have said they like Seniors.link and they see many possible uses for it. Has that gone over your head. How about Hollywood.link or Revolution.link? or Free.link?

The .com equivalent of each of those domains leads to a crap website, and what I don't understand is why you're bothered so much by my promotion for .LINK. Brad, you're flushing "time" down the toilet, and i know you know that time is money

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Yeah, you have been talking about this for years. When are you going to start actually doing it?

The same could be said about .online, .homes, .realty, or any other extensions you "binged" on in the past.

Brad

Brad....regardless of what you think, I'm having a blast doing this. It's not quite as gratifying as the two "hole's in one" I made after creating 9Time, but it's pretty damn close. What do you do for fun Brad? I know I occupy space in your head, and you'll have to admit that's pretty sad

 

[bmugford]

Brad, you waste a lot of time following me....am i that charming.

Actually, I just have a lot of free time because I run a successful business that makes domain sales.

You are probably the one who should spend less time here, and start moving forward with all your big plans. Get to work!

Brad

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Actually, I just have a lot of free time because I run a successful business that makes domain sales.

You are probably the one who should spend less time here, and start moving forward with all your big plans. Get to work!

Brad

While working out this AM at the gym i was telling a young lady who's the director of nursing at our local University about Nursing.link. She caught on real fast and thought it would make for a great domain/site for "Continuing Education" for the nursing industry. So what do you think of her idea Brad?

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Here here! How many more times do we have to hear about how @ThatNameGuy is going to sell domains by educating end users? Get to work already.

Joe, this thread is about binging on .LINK domains. And to show there are still some decent two word names left i just registered HalfOff.link for $2.39. You may like to know Joe that GD considers the word half as a keyword and they value it @ $4,915. Any idea why they might do that Joe? Any idea how I might use this information to sell the HalfOff.link to an enduser? Any idea how an enduser might use it Joe or are you just here for the entertainment

 

[Joe N]

Joe, this thread is about binging on .LINK domains.

You actually didn't define any limits in your original post.

You may like to know Joe that GD considers the word half as a keyword and they value it @ $4,915.

Rich, I have an insider secret for you: every word is a keyword. You don't have to wait for GoDaddy to tell you what is and isn't.

Any idea why they might do that Joe? Any idea how I might use this information to sell the HalfOff.link to an enduser?

I wish I did have an idea, but I've been waiting for you to make good on this plan for five years, and I still have nothing more than a few dozen variations of this statement/question.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

You actually didn't define any limits in your original post.


Rich, I have an insider secret for you: every word is a keyword. You don't have to wait for GoDaddy to tell you what is and isn't.


I wish I did have an idea, but I've been waiting for you to make good on this plan for five years, and I still have nothing more than a few dozen variations of this statement/question.

Your insider secret is wrong Joe, every word is not a keyword Tell me where in this definition it says every word is a keyword;

NOUN: a word or concept of great significance:
"homes and jobs are the keywords in the campaign"

• a word that acts as the key to a cipher or code.
• an informative word used in an information retrieval system to indicate the content of a document.
• a significant word mentioned in an index.

Maybe you're not impressed with GD's definition of what is and what is not a keyword, but enduser's/buyers of .link will be impressed that GD considers "link" a keyword

Finally Joe, every day I'm getting closer to that pot of chocolate at the end of the rainbow. Oh, did i say "chocolate"? Consider this....when asked how much Hilco Digital is asking for Chocolate.com, here was their answer just today;

"We are asking $2.5m, may be "some" room."

Joe....i happen to have registered Chocolate.link and I paid just $118 for it. Remember what I've been saying about risk vs. reward? Also I've met a few domainers who happen to be in the Candy business both here in the States and in Canada....so what does this have to do with the time of day? Stay tuned

 

[Joe N]

Your insider secret is wrong Joe, every word is not a keyword Tell me where in this definition it says every word is a keyword;

NOUN: a word or concept of great significance:
"homes and jobs are the keywords in the campaign"

• a word that acts as the key to a cipher or code.
• an informative word used in an information retrieval system to indicate the content of a document.
• a significant word mentioned in an index.

Maybe you're not impressed with GD's definition of what is and what is not a keyword, but enduser's/buyers of .link will be impressed that GD considers "link" a keyword

Yes Rich. Every word is a keyword. Some are better than others (i.e. more valuable, more search volume, more branding power), but "keyword" is a term used to personalize the words that are best used to describe/find a particular business/site/campaign/product/etc by way of internet search.

I don't know where you found that definition, but I doubt it was from GoDaddy. Sounds more like a generic dictionary definition that doesn't take the proper context (i.e. domain names and internet searches) into account.

I'd be happy to provide you a link to one of dozens (or more) sources that explain what a keyword is, but you should be able to Google it pretty easily. Just let me know.

Finally Joe, every day I'm getting closer to that pot of chocolate at the end of the rainbow. Oh, did i say "chocolate"? Consider this....when asked how much Hilco Digital is asking for Chocolate.com, here was their answer just today;

"We are asking $2.5m, may be "some" room."

Joe....i happen to have registered Chocolate.link and I paid just $118 for it. Remember what I've been saying about risk vs. reward? Also I've met a few domainers who happen to be in the Candy business both here in the States and in Canada....so what does this have to do with the time of day? Stay tuned

That's a solid name as far as .link names go, but that renewal price kills the value. You're going to need to hold onto these things for years and then hope for a Swetha-level miracle to make your money back.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Yes Rich. Every word is a keyword. Some are better than others (i.e. more valuable, more search volume, more branding power), but "keyword" is a term used to personalize the words that are best used to describe/find a particular business/site/campaign/product/etc by way of internet search.

I don't know where you found that definition, but I doubt it was from GoDaddy. Sounds more like a generic dictionary definition that doesn't take the proper context (i.e. domain names and internet searches) into account.

I'd be happy to provide you a link to one of dozens (or more) sources that explain what a keyword is, but you should be able to Google it pretty easily. Just let me know.


That's a solid name as far as .link names go, but that renewal price kills the value. You're going to need to hold onto these things for years and then hope for a Swetha-level miracle to make your money back.

First with regards to a "keyword", are you telling me that the guy who happens to own WordProdigy(.)com doesn't know what at keyword is? While you're talking semantics and context, I'm referring to Go Daddy's reference to keyword. Take for example the word "fresh"....here's what GD says about it;


Valuable keyword: fresh is a high value keyword that has an average sale price of $1894

Joe....you and I have known all along the enduser is simply uninformed about the "keyword" phenomenon just as they are about the domain industry. As a result I own names like FreshBaked.link, FreshSeafood.link and FreshFruit.link that i paid just $2.39 each for.

Finally, the renewal for Chocolate.link is a mere $118 a year, and you think I can't afford to renew it You have to be making this stuff up Joe.....why are you really here

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[NickB]

First with regards to a "keyword", are you telling me that the guy who happens to own WordProdigy(.)com doesn't know what at keyword is? While you're talking semantics and context, I'm referring to Go Daddy's reference to keyword. Take for example the word "fresh"....here's what GD says about it;


Valuable keyword: fresh is a high value keyword that has an average sale price of $1894

Joe....you and I have known all along the enduser is simply uninformed about the "keyword" phenomenon just as they are about the domain industry. As a result I own names like FreshBaked.link, FreshSeafood.link and FreshFruit.link that i paid just $2.39 each for.

Finally, the renewal for Chocolate.link is a mere $118 a year, and you think I can't afford to renew it You have to be making this stuff up Joe.....why are you really here

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I wouldn't pay to much attention to Godaddy valuations Rich.....they include a lot of wholesale prices, could be old sales etc

Fresh is a decent keyword, I like it.....

If you look at Namebio and view the end user markeplaces (Sedo, Buy Domains, Private sales etc etc) the keyword "Fresh" has the below stats.......you would need to review it more carefully and remove the keyword "refresh" from the below and maybe some other variants, but it gives a general idea

in .com it has sold 198 times at an average price of $3,169 for a total volume of $627.5k - take off the refresh.com sale of $115,000 and that brings the average price down a bit.......

Now........

in .link it has sold a grand total of 0 times on any marketplace....makes you think

*The above is for reported sales*

 

[Elad n]

Guys, let it go.

The way i see it, @ThatNameGuy is having fun buying domains, hopefully as a hobby.
Looks like he got money to spend so that's great.

If it works out for you @ThatNameGuy that's even better.

This thread is giving me a headache.

 

[Daniel Owens]

Yes and here are a few more two word gems;

TeeShirts
Nextdoor
Hindsight
HomeSales

note....GD and DAN are asking upwards of 30K for the .xyz equivalent of these two word names. Also note that I paid just $2.39 for these names and they renew @ just $10. Good luck Robert27

Those are some amazing domains. Glad they are standard renewal.