The future of .COM after new gTLDs boom! Big DROP?!

[New.Life]

According to the data and this simple chart:

http://www.registrarstats.com/TLDDomainCounts.aspx

Is there a BIG drop? Coming soon?

 

[wormfood]

Lol I admit some or maybe all of my arguments were bad. But you can't constantly accuse people of making "surface-level" arguments and then post a ton of headlines.

Okay, sorry, I glanced and they looked headlines.
But still, the statements could just as well be headlines. You get my point.
Never mind

 

[slader23]

Shocking the ones selling them say good things.

Let's post a list of owners of pizzerias and ask them what we should have for dinner.

Bad analogy. The people wanting you to buy ngtlds the most would be the registrars not marketplaces or the broker, those guys just want their commission they don't care what you sell as long as they get their cut of the pie. Many of these guys are brokers who make a lot more money selling .coms than ngtlds so I think your comment is very irrelevant.

IDNX--->Not selling domains, Dr.Thies Liendenhal is a lecturer in the Real Estate Finance department of Cambridge university. He created IDNX which was the first price index for domains.
Protrada---->Is now Name Investors similar to efty in the services they provide.
NameMedia--->Broker/Marketplace(Not a registrar)
Sedo--->Broker/Marketplace(Not a registrar)
Impulse Communications---> domain name investor Eric Borgos' company not a registrar.
NameNinja--->Broker(not a registrar)
DomainBoadroom--->Now DonnasBlog-->owned by Donna Mahoney not a registrar.
DN.BIZ--->Broker( Not a registrar)
Larry Fischer-->Broker(Not a registrar)
Domain Holdings --->Broker(Not a registrar)

 

[JB Lions]

Bad analogy. The people wanting you to buy ngtlds the most would be the registrars not marketplaces or the broker, those guys just want their commission they don't care what you sell as long as they get their cut of the pie. Many of these guys are brokers who make a lot more money selling .coms than ngtlds so I think your comment is very irrelevant.

IDNX--->Not selling domains, Dr.Thies Liendenhal is a lecturer in the Real Estate Finance department of Cambridge university. He created IDNX which was the first price index for domains.
Protrada---->Is now Name Investors similar to efty in the services they provide.
NameMedia--->Broker/Marketplace(Not a registrar)
Sedo--->Broker/Marketplace(Not a registrar)
Impulse Communications---> domain name investor Eric Borgos' company not a registrar.
NameNinja--->Broker(not a registrar)
DomainBoadroom--->Now DonnasBlog-->owned by Donna Mahoney not a registrar.
DN.BIZ--->Broker( Not a registrar)
Larry Fischer-->Broker(Not a registrar)
Domain Holdings --->Broker(Not a registrar)

I actually wasn't taking that post too seriously.

Still interested in - "That myth has already been debugged."

 

[slader23]

I actually wasn't taking that post too seriously.

Still interested in - "That myth has already been debugged."

I think I was wrong on that one. The only article I can find says that traffic leaks if the .com is developed but the only example has been with .CO not ngtlds. i.e overstocks fail with O.co.


There I admitted my error but I highly doubt you have the capacity to admit yours.

 

[JB Lions]

I think I was wrong on that one. The only article I can find says that traffic leaks if the .com is developed but the only example has been with .CO not ngtlds. i.e overstocks fail with O.co.


There I admitted my error but I highly doubt you have the capacity to admit yours.

When it happens I do, it just doesn't happen that much There have been plenty of times I felt one way about something and somebody comes along and provides a better way or an angle I never thought of, I adjust.

 

[slader23]

When it happens I do, it just doesn't happen that much There have been plenty of times I felt one way about something and somebody comes along and provides a better way or an angle I never thought of, I adjust.

Well then, hopefully you have adjusted here. I hope you realize I wasn't trying to be be an @ss. I own a ton of .com's I just want to call out the people who don't know what their talking about (not you but others) those guys literally lurk here all day waiting to bash ngtld people...some of whom are entire leagues ahead of them(even in their .com sales). I like to call out peoples bs and put it out there for others to see their misguided logic, sometimes that makes me look like a tool but I don't care. Its disappointing to see that people put down the hard work and efforts of others towards something that interests them. That is something that should be look down upon in this community. I just want you to know I meant no harm with anything I said. I just want people to understand the reality vs what this community conditions people to believe.

 

[wormfood]

If someone had too much time on their hands, maybe they could register a unique name in .com and the corresponding new TLD.. Then develop and promote the new TLD to see what happens.
Maybe repeat that with a few different names and use an analytics tool to watch traffic. Or just park the .com.

 

[slader23]

If someone had too much time on their hands, maybe they could register a unique name in .com and the corresponding new TLD.. Then develop and promote the new TLD to see what happens.
Maybe repeat that with a few different names and use an analytics tool to watch traffic. Or just park the .com.

That would be a cool way to analyze traffic leakage. Develop both I think though since organic traffic would probably go to the .com, if its developed.

 

[Rainmaker-NL]

Shocking the ones selling them say good things.

Let's post a list of owners of pizzerias and ask them what we should have for dinner.

Or ask a guy that uses the picture of a criminal if we can trust what he says....

 

[JB Lions]

Or ask a guy that uses the picture of a criminal if we can trust what he says....

haha, a guy with a duck pic wearing a Target logo. Maybe we can trust a guy that pretends he doesn't know Staples has a store in the NL? Or Clinique? And the guy isn't a criminal, he's just a family man. So he killed his brother, his brother wasn't loyal.

 

[dordomai]

here is the bad news:
there is no future for .com after ngtlds boom
here is the good news:
they'll never boom

I like your sense of humor. Also there is a lot of truth in what you say.

 

[dordomai]

To sum this up:

Claim: More and More Startups go after a nGTLD instead of a .com, .com is the past and will become obsolete.
Evidence: Company XY bought a nGTLD instead of .com
Fact: 99% of companies don't so far.
Claim: They will do so in the future.
Evidence: There isn't any but we can keep talking about millennials, Google or any other mystical and powerful entity that will make that happen in some very special and complicated way that no one can understand but me.

 

[Kuffy]

I don't mind helping out anybody who thinks that .coms are going to tank. You'd better get out fast. I'll be happy to buy any one word dictionary names ( .coms ) for $50

 

[dordomai]

All 5 figure sales:
X.Company-->sold XCompany.com--->parked
education.global---> Sold Educationglobal.com---->Parked
Casino.Global---->Sold CasinoGlobal.com---->Parked
Commercial.Property---->Sold CommercialProperty.com---->Parked
baltic.cruises----->Sold Balticcruises.com------>Parked


All end user sales. All the buyers had the choice to own the .com. This is consumer choice at work.

I think this a good example how meaningless these discussions are.

First of all there will always be sales that break rules and don't fit into a general pattern. The question is how common they are compared to the sales that follow a rule or general pattern.

WIthout any knowledge about some details behind these deals it becomes meaningless to compare these sales without knowing how many times the opposite happened and someone bought the .com instead.

This is just a part of the list from yesterday when some decided to buy a .com instead of a ngTLD.

wccb.com
bdkw.com
dotnetshoutout.com
fech.com
slacked.com
naturalhormones.com
tesetturisland.com
videomessaging.com
stkz.com
cids.com
cgyt.com
fprl.com
mpjf.com
latinostrategies.com
wellscapital.com
worldsymposium.com
80159.com
guit.com
o97.com
alptech.com
txgo.com
newschoollearning.com
buddybear.com
fibex.com
e06.com
59012.com
10165.com
79095.com
19026.com
30726.com
360search.com
royallotus.com
obaly.com
suibianmai.com
acrobatica.com
urbantrade.com
wearablehealth.com
222665.com
882922.com
bayfish.com
tooply.com

 

[dordomai]

Bad analogy. The people wanting you to buy ngtlds the most would be the registrars not marketplaces or the broker, those guys just want their commission they don't care what you sell as long as they get their cut of the pie. Many of these guys are brokers who make a lot more money selling .coms than ngtlds so I think your comment is very irrelevant.

IDNX--->Not selling domains, Dr.Thies Liendenhal is a lecturer in the Real Estate Finance department of Cambridge university. He created IDNX which was the first price index for domains.
Protrada---->Is now Name Investors similar to efty in the services they provide.
NameMedia--->Broker/Marketplace(Not a registrar)
Sedo--->Broker/Marketplace(Not a registrar)
Impulse Communications---> domain name investor Eric Borgos' company not a registrar.
NameNinja--->Broker(not a registrar)
DomainBoadroom--->Now DonnasBlog-->owned by Donna Mahoney not a registrar.
DN.BIZ--->Broker( Not a registrar)
Larry Fischer-->Broker(Not a registrar)
Domain Holdings --->Broker(Not a registrar)

You could find an equal or bigger number of experienced domainers or well known people in the domaining industry that would disagree with that. So what does that even mean?

According to your logic that must mean that more likely than not nGTLDs will not be successful.

Besides that I am sure that many on your list, while believing that nGTLD will have some potential, would disagree with your assertion that word.word will replace wordword.com in the future.

 

[Kuffy]

If someone had too much time on their hands, maybe they could register a unique name in .com and the corresponding new TLD.. Then develop and promote the new TLD to see what happens.
Maybe repeat that with a few different names and use an analytics tool to watch traffic. Or just park the .com.

I've just done that, but I'm afraid I don't have too much time on my hands.
I registered NoLonger.in and NoLongerIn.com and I'll use them to discuss the benefits we are getting from Brexit.

What would you suggest is the best structure for this test?

 

[mad409]

This is just a part of the list from yesterday when some decided to buy a .com instead of a ngTLD.

wccb.com
bdkw.com
dotnetshoutout.com
fech.com
slacked.com
naturalhormones.com
tesetturisland.com
videomessaging.com
stkz.com
cids.com
cgyt.com
fprl.com
mpjf.com
latinostrategies.com
wellscapital.com
worldsymposium.com
80159.com
guit.com
o97.com
alptech.com
txgo.com
newschoollearning.com
buddybear.com
fibex.com
e06.com
59012.com
10165.com
79095.com
19026.com
30726.com
360search.com
royallotus.com
obaly.com
suibianmai.com
acrobatica.com
urbantrade.com
wearablehealth.com
222665.com
882922.com
bayfish.com
tooply.com

Some good .com's for sure, really like the LLLL.com's right now but you must admit there is no place to view all dropped and purchased new g's at one particular place therefore no rebuttal can be compared to the provided list. Just saying..

 

[dordomai]

Some good .com's for sure, really like the LLLL.com's right now but you must admit there is no place to view all dropped and purchased new g's at one particular place therefore no rebuttal can be compared to the provided list. Just saying..

Namebio provides lists of nGTLD sales. About 1-2 sales per day on average I would guess.

 

[mad409]

Namebio provides lists of nGTLD sales. About 1-2 sales per day on average I would guess.

You know what I mean, come on. Read it again, not ragging you..

 

[New.Life]

Namebio provides lists of nGTLD sales. About 1-2 sales per day on average I would guess.

How many .com sales were 30 years ago?!

 

[168]

Startups simply don't like nGTLDs and there is probably a good reason for it. It's not that they aren't aware of them. They avoid them intentionally.[/QUOTE]

My response was related to the top .com sales NOT top funded startups.
There are more than 500k startups every year. So what you have 17 out of 500k examples.
There is about a 23% increase in start ups using something other than .com and not likely to get it later on.

ot.to is backed by Google, Apple, Tesla What cutting edge company would use something other than .com ? I'm stumped.

gojuno.com vs. juno.nyc ? guess what investment banker in NYC reg this at launch. A much better comparison.
gojuno.online doesn't make sense for the service. bad example
Cheddar.com - to Cheddar.food ? LOL it's a news site. Again, bad example. Cheddar.com was also dropped 4 times before the current owner hand reg'd in 2005 and is the developer of the site. So he's finally using it. A terrible name for a news site.
The .app extension isn't even available. AGAIN, BAD EXAMPLES.
grailbio.com- One that has sat on the shelf for 30 years, and grail.bio WAS reg'd at the same time
Same for Knuedge. Interesting name however doesn't pass the radio test, a hack, and inferior to other possibilities.
ritual.xyz ? please. Another bad example for the product. It would be great if you could use something other than .xyz for your arguments . You continue to ignore several posted developed sites on New Tlds using .xyz as a stand out example is getting old.
comparably, flyzipline, these choices are going to cost big time in ongoing marketing expense.
nanit and truebill Great choices yet again, it took 30 years before someone wanted it.

TO SAY THERE ARE NO START UPS USING NEW "G"'s IS A DIRECT INTENTIONAL MISREPRESENTATION.
Like i've said before your either a domainer or a .commie.
Cheers!

 

[dordomai]

My response was related to the top .com sales NOT top funded startups.
There are more than 500k startups every year. So what you have 17 out of 500k examples.

There were other discussions using much longer lists. The results were the same. Startups buy .com avoid nGTLD. If you don't like that not my fault.

Cheddar.com - to Cheddar.food ?

I gave just examples, they could have selected any other possible combo. There are many available They didn't choose an nGTLD(and they could have) and that is what happend. So yes they do mostly avoid them.

 

[arjun29]

My "sex.life" - just $108

your sex.life is so cheap .

 

[dordomai]

You know what I mean, come on. Read it again, not ragging you..

drops make up only a part of .com sales, even without them this doesn't change. Godaddy allows to track all expired nGTLDs that get sold so they do get reported as well. You can compare them.

 

[168]

Deeply flawed comparison. New extensions are not new technology, they work exactly like 'old' extensions. The DNS is flexible and can support new services as the Internet evolves.

Sorry you don't get it. New "G"s ARE A NEW WAY TO COMMUNICATE Just like the examples.
They were also examples of how technology EVOLVES.
Cheers!