.tv Michael Berkens rejects $125K offer for D.TV

wow on the $125k turned down for D.tv. Another wow for many of the names and offers rejected on that list!

think said:

wow on the $125k turned down for D.tv. Another wow for many of the names and offers rejected on that list!

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Yeah no kidding.

Turning down $100K for iBill.com???

I would have taken $10K for that!

Shows you how much I know....lol

He wasn't voted Domainer of the Year for nothing!

We can just watch and learn

The same situation is with me.

Once received a $5 offer on one of my .com domains here at NP and rejected it. Then in a couple of days sold it for 15 dollars.

We, I mean professionals, know when we need to wait


Great news for .TV

the dot stop said:

Yeah no kidding.

Turning down $100K for iBill.com???

I would have taken $10K for that!

Shows you how much I know....lol

He wasn't voted Domainer of the Year for nothing!

We can just watch and learn

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Ya I'm still going over it in amazement. Lot's to learn for sure.

One question I'd have though: "Motocyclehelmets.com is in the list. Was it suppose to be MotorcycleHelmets.com?"

Apparently he has a massive man-crush on Kevin.

twomoon said:

Great news for .TV

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I think so too

defaultuser said:

Apparently he has a massive man-crush on Kevin.

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and Bill too.

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think said:

Ya I'm still going over it in amazement. Lot's to learn for sure.

One question I'd have though: "Motocyclehelmets.com is in the list. Was it suppose to be MotorcycleHelmets.com?"

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haha You'e right.

I just checked the Whois and it is a typo on his site.

He does own the correct spelling Motorcyclehelmets.com

The typo MotocycleHelmets.com is prob owned by someone else since it is privacy protected.

That would have been crazier yet!

defaultuser said:

Apparently he has a massive man-crush on Kevin.

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Are you talking about Kevin from Allthings?

Bromance?

Is this something to do with Motorcyclists?

What do you mean?





EXCLAIMER: I know and like both of these gentlemen - especially now I know they buy names but don't sell!



But Seriously. Nobody knows the real facts of this offer and until we do we should deal in only 100% REALITY, not heresay, could-have-beens or 'hey-I-turned-down's'. Verifiable and accurate facts should be everything, otherwise our industry is slush.

I have just signed a very bIG five figure sale, with temporary NDA, so even though I personally (and a few of my close fiends) know it is proof of how wonderful the .Tv enduser market is at present, I really would consider everyone a schmuck if they blindly accept it as fact without knowing the full VERIFIABLE details.

The .tv market is good, especially for 'gold' names, but the fact I say it, or anyone else says it should not be seen as proof it is correct. That is why we should acquaint ourselves more and more with things like Sports.tv dropping at $49k. If that gets picked up then we KNOW the industry is massively in good health.

I would say Berkens word is the gold standard in this industry along with Ron Jackson, Andrew Allenman and one or two others.

This is excellent news!

I noticed the misspelling on Motocyclehelmets too.

I acquired MotorcycleHelmets.tv (proper spelling) back in March. Whoever offered $60k for the misspelled .com should know that I might consider $60k for the TV spelled proper.

Claude he mistyped on the site, the offer was for the real name, properly spelled.

Thank you for that. In consideration of this, I might even consider less than $60K for my .TV

Yet more hype......real sales please.

the dot stop said:

Turning down $100K for iBill.com???

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Used to one of the biggest payment processors.

How is it hype Snoop ? Berkens did not post here, it certainly is realistic to think someone of his stature could turn down an offer. This is not a .tv domainer. So go to his blog and tell him he is a liar.

Conversely, when he makes an offer to purchase a domain it is usually less than 1/10th the value.

In his blog dated December 27 (today) Mike writes that he paid $18,000.00 for D.TV sometime during 2010. I wonder if he was smokin' legal weed when he made that purchase? J/K

MicroGuy said:

In his blog dated December 27 (today) Mike writes that he paid $18,000.00 for D.TV sometime during 2010. I wonder if he was smokin' legal weed when he made that purchase? J/K

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If I remember correct D.TV and P.TV were two of the "hiccups" before the .TV goldrush in March. The domain D.TV was handregged for (supposedly) $20 by some guy in China and sold for $18k to Michael a few weeks later. Not a bad ROI if you ask me

More ino here!

Hey guys thanks for finding the typo on motorcyclehelmets.com it is now corrected on the site.

All the offers as rejected came after quite a bit back and forth and were from real buyers with money to spend.

I'm not here to hype anything up, spin anyone's wheels or jerk anyone off.

The point is sharing as much information as I can with the community so that everyone has as much information as possible in order to make informed decisions on the domains they hold.

Regarding D.tv my feeling is its worth at LEAST as much as O.co and probably more.

O.Co sold for $350K, I think you will i.Co sell in the Feb auction for at least $350K and see e.Co resell this year for $350K or more.

Personally I think D.tv is one of the strongest possible single letter .TV and its worth $500K as it sits today.

The guy also had P.tv which I culd have bought but didn't like it anywhere as much so I passed on that one.

Yes a $20 registration to $18K sale is a nice return, especially if you live in China, so I say good for him.


iBill.com used to be a HUGE credit card processor. It processed hundreds of millions in charges back in the day.

It make around $6K a year parked down from $10K a year when I 1st got the domain. With T-Bills paying under 1% a year at $100K which i turned down that a 6% return.

iAuction.com which makes nothing sold for $50K at a domain auction this year.

I think iBill.com is worth $300k+.

MotorcycleHelmets.com is a huge category and pretty expensive item and think its a 6 figure domain so the 5 figure offer was rejected.

So there is a story and a reasoning behind each rejected sale.

However we also listed our recent sales on our new site as well and have accepted offers as low as $3K.

We price domains to end users based on what we believe the domain is worth.

There are those domains who put a 6 figure price tag on every domain and sell 1 every blue moon. Nothing wrong with that its a strategy that works for them.

Other domainers are happy to buy a domain for $500 and flip it 5 days later for $1K.

There's nothing wrong with that either.

There are lots of ways to make a living domaining, you just to have to develop a plan your comfortable with and that works for you and follow it.

Happy new year to everyone, 2011 will be a good year

Thank you very much for the information you shared with us.
To be honest it surprised me a lot more that you refused 10K for Kevin.me than 125K for D.tv, but you'll for sure have your strategy also on it.
Honestly 12 months ago it was unbelievable for me to think that someone could have refused 125K for a .tv domains, but things have changed

Hey Michael, D.TV is much stronger than P.TV so you did the right thing

Happy new year to you also, keep up the good work!

-T

worldwide said:

O.Co sold for $350K, I think you will i.Co sell in the Feb auction for at least $350K and see e.Co resell this year for $350K or more

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Interesting. In 3 years - he has 19 posts.. THIS must be what I'm doing wrong...

I'll eat a hat if these sell for that (a cake shaped as a hat - but a hat nonetheless).

I'm with donnied79- I was more surprised with Kevin.me. Then again, maybe it was Mr Ham who has far more money than me .. come to think of it most people do.

Good of you to post though. Kudos for taking the time to visit this small part of the internet to share your thoughts.

snoop said:

Yet more hype......real sales please.

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I suggest you go to Enom.tv and register WakeUpAndSmellTheCoffee.TV
It's available and i really think you could use it.

Well said. Thanks much for sharing!

It's good to be warned that there is a buyer with $125K out there, and not rule out the chance that she is NOT the only one.

Guess how she finally came up with an $125K offer might have more to do with your strong valuation/position rather than a mysterious art? .

worldwide said:

... All the offers as rejected came after quite a bit back and forth and were from real buyers with money to spend.

I'm not here to hype anything up, spin anyone's wheels or jerk anyone off.

The point is sharing as much information as I can with the community so that everyone has as much information as possible in order to make informed decisions on the domains they hold.

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worldwide said:

Regarding D.tv my feeling is its worth at LEAST as much as O.co and probably more.

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I think the sale of O.co is so peculiar (along with other strategic purchases by Overstock) than I would be careful using it as a baseline for the market.

worldwide said:

O.Co sold for $350K, I think you will i.Co sell in the Feb auction for at least $350K and see e.Co resell this year for $350K or more.

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I beg to disagree. IMO e.co was not a steal at 81K. I think the owners will struggle to resell it at a profit.

e.co i.co o.co are nice names but the novelty appeal does not justify absurd amounts. It's really bad when you have no development plan, because you just end up with a lot of cash tied up and you have no idea how to recoup it.

I bought a few one-letter domains in other extensions for *much* lower amounts (says 1-2% of o.co). I'm talking about fairly decent extensions but that are not hyped like .co, therefore the prices are more down to earth...

worldwide said:

Personally I think D.tv is one of the strongest possible single letter .TV and its worth $500K as it sits today.

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I would say it's worth what somebody is willing to pay. Right now let's assume it could be worth $125K. More ? Remains to be seen.

However I would say ultra-short domains such as these are trophy domains, so rational reasons or observed market trends are not always applicable.

worldwide said:

Happy new year to everyone, 2011 will be a good year

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You too

donnied79 said:

Honestly 12 months ago it was unbelievable for me to think that someone could have refused 125K for a .tv domains, but things have changed

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What's changed?

I've been away for a while. Thanks in advance for your reply.