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I visited here every day.But seems no more news here.
.mobi dead or .mobi on NP dead ?
.mobi dead or .mobi on NP dead ?
Saying that the future of mobile is apps based is just you speculating and searching for something that is contrary to .mobi usage. What are you basing this on?
Like your assertion that geo mobile websites are the way to go.
Do you CNO guys do research about the future? Sounds like you figure the future will be the same as the past and present?
Thats what the newspaper guys thought up until a couple of years ago.
So if you want to take advantage of the iphone functionality for example, it has to be on the phone itself.
Once we have cross platform standardization then a web based solution is superior as its easier to distribute and access.
And now that there are literally '50,000' apps on the iphone app store,
Apps will stick around, but generally this will go web based.
Personaly IMHO .mobi is gaining momentum every day, much more then most.
My best friend works for ESPN in the internet department as an annalyst, he tells me "ESPN loves it"
My other good friend works for HP and an iphone/facebook addict, he is one of those junkies that has to say everythign he is doing and always on his iphone, He now uses .mobi sites for sports, news and pretty much everything else. He is even buying some .mobis.
On the face of it I understand why people talk about how large corporations use their domains, but I think a far better barometer would be to look at SMEs, or even internet-based startups.
We are on the slow steady organic growth path
Apps are great, you said mosty phones will be using apps and not surfing the web. I was disputing this. Not saying apps are no good.How about present day application and the current phones along with ones that are being released in the near future. lol...you're the guy that used the phone as an example. Sucks when your own argument is used against you and successfully too.
Yes but I think you were implying geo is all mobi is good for.Lots of geo site are built already for mobi. Not speculation at all. NV.mobi is a good example.
Yes we look at the past and present but we don't assume it will continue infinitum.Exactly. If you're basing the future 100% on speculation then it's a fantasy. You do need to view the past and present. Funny you proved my earlier points about this. Go back to my first few posts to read exactly what I said.
Newspapers are struggling across the board. Yes the content has stayed the same. but the means of distribution has changed and the business models have changed. Something has changed forever. It was the same for hundreds of years and in the last 5 years it has changed. Some will switch to digital, some will go under, but business as usual has changed. I mentioned this regarding CNO business as usual. The web is changing, becoming mobile. Changing forever.Awesome...you just brought up newspapers..a technology and medium that's been around hundreds of years. While print may dimimish the fact they are still posting news digitally should be an easy way to see the trend. Print still exists and it will for years to come. Many newspapers are struggling financially and some are going online 100%. The game is changing but it's still basically the same.
Apps are great, you said mosty phones will be using apps and not surfing the web. I was disputing this. Not saying apps are no good.
And how is that a problem? You can't disconnect your phone from it's application. And part of the reason phones are good sellers are because of the applications. How will that trend change?
That won't and can't happen. Client software will always be better and more powerful than internet software. That's fact.
You're proving my point again. Applications are growing faster than mobi sites. People generally only visit a small set of sites. They create their favorites and repeatedly visit them.
This is true but not the entire truth. Mobi had an extreme hype rally the first year or so then tanked. This is a discussion on valuations.
While the organic growth is the way to go mobi unfortunately has been soured as an investment. Investments require long-term holders willing to also wait for that organic growth. For the most part those investors have walked away from mobi and new investors into the domain extension appear skitish to come forward. They are also not major players.
I'd love to see some good research on mobile usage behaviour.
But speaking purely from my own observations and that of my friends, people generally access the Internet from mobile devices to satisfy their compulsive obsessions for e-mail, news, tweeting, facebook, etc., which (on popular devices) are supported by special purpose apps that take advantage of the native mobile environment. Browsing the web or googling stuff from mobile devices does not appear to be a very common activity.
I think the reason for this difference in behaviour is a combination of factors; mobile devices are uncomfortable to use for prolonged periods of time (but perfect for quick and small tasks), mobile input methods are not perfect (improving, but can one hand ever be as fast as two?), people have a desktop as well and will choose to use the right tool for the right job.
So basically people just want an app for the things they already like doing and use desktops to discover web content.
Does this sound reasonable?
Was my post really that controversial? My observations in no way suggest the web is about to die (what on earth made you derive that?), merely that people don't access the web very much from mobile devices, and if they do it's to use sites they already know well, rather than to discover new content.
As I said, I'd like to read some proper research on the subject, so please feel free to recommend some!
This just in. GE one of the biggest issuers of credit cards have chased a dropped mobi and regged it after the previous owner let it drop. mycreditcard.mobi is now owned by GE
cheers
Rob
I read the .mobi prices are down 89% in one year and that made me think 'how long live .mobi'. I have a number of .mobi names and this news feared me about it's future.
I ask .mobi purchase or not?
Thanks.
Fast Action Domains
The .mobi market has crashed as you say and reality turned out to be nothing like expectations. Personally I think it will just end out being an alt extension for sites that are purely mobile only, that is a niche market. Would compare it to something like .info or .tv. If you are going to invest make sure it is with gambling money.
I read the .mobi prices are down 89% in one year and that made me think 'how long live .mobi'. I have a number of .mobi names and this news feared me about it's future.
I ask .mobi purchase or not?
Thanks.
Fast Action Domains
Would the Mods care to close this thread and link it to the established thread regarding the age old question "is mobi dead or just dead on NP?"
Of course, you are quite right... sites that are made for mobile only are going to be a complete failure
does that tell you about the true value of the domain or just the state of the domainer to domainer market?
Warren Buffet buys value... he ignores the market and focuses on the value... it's not so easy to do when it means going against the herd... but boy! Is the herd ever wrong? you tell me.....
The .mobi market has crashed as you say and reality turned out to be nothing like expectations. Personally I think it will just end out being an alt extension for sites that are purely mobile only, that is a niche market. Would compare it to something like .info or .tv. If you are going to invest make sure it is with gambling money.
labrocca, you obviously know nothing about the print business due to your comments made previously.
labrocca said:The game is changing but it's still basically the same.
The .mobi market has crashed as you say and reality turned out to be nothing like expectations.
Would the Mods care to close this thread and link it to the established thread regarding the age old question "is mobi dead or just dead on NP?"
Good advice imho. Nothing wrong with it being an alt extension -- just means that if you want to make money through .mobi, you'll have to do it through development instead of domaining.
Threads have been merged as requested.
apps vs. web in mobile world
being someone who was a regular user of the bulletin boards (that would be monochrome BBS systems powered by the likes of wildcat) prior to the more robust WWW, here is my brief take on mobile apps:
After BBS, I graduated to Prodigy, then onto Compuserve, and after a brief stint with AOL I realized we don't need these constricting places that act like walls to make sure the stupid user doesn't get lost. They were all hand-holding apps essentially (if not technically). In the days of Prodigy and Compuserve, the content on the open web was far from mainstream so outside of niche hobby uber-geek stuff most folks were better off in those cages.
My crystal ball says that eventually anything you can do in an app you will be able to do on a mobile-dedicated website. We are already seeing the growth of web->device->location integration. Your phone won't be bogged down with all these resource hungry apps, just a good browser. People will become comfortable finding and using these browser-based mobile tools (aka "mobile specific websites")...as well as p*rn...and all these apps will go the way of aol, prodigy, and compuserve.:ghost: boo!
...meegwell
very well summed up. although i think apps will always be around and still play a part in the world of mobile devices...but its getting to the point where there is an app for everything... a bit of "app overbuilding" happening right now i think. one major benefit of apps though, is you dont have to have an internet connection to get access to it.. comes in handy during the time we're still living in when often there is intermittent internet reception.
Very well summed up. although i think apps will always be around and still play a part in the world of mobile devices...but its getting to the point where there is an app for everything... a bit of "app overbuilding" happening right now i think. one major benefit of apps though, is you dont have to have an internet connection to get access to it.. comes in handy during the time we're still living in when often there is intermittent internet reception.