Another scam letter "Elite Investment Group"

[VisualArtistFrankBonilla]

Just recived this scam letter:

Hello,

We buy and sell domains and web pr®jects. What is your price for the domain?

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Brian Samuelson

CEO

WHC Web Hosting Consulting & Investment LLC

I looked them up on the internet, and here they are::

Domain valuation scam targets Sedo users « That Danny!

Of course, I knew it was scam right off. :zzz: Not even a good scam letter.

Frank

 

[Archangel]

He didn't read it. As soon as he saw you weren't gonna bite, he tossed this aside and went after another victim. I could be wrong but I really doubt he read it.

All the same reps added for telling the @$$hole the way it is and all should salute you.

What do you folks think? Too harsh?

 

[bikram910]

I also got this email scam from this guy who only changed his name and email address. If I haven't read this forum, I'd sure fall for it.
Thanks guys and keep up the good work.


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Hello,

How much do you ask for this domain for sale?

Our company buy and sell domains and developed sites. If you have other
domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Joseph Young

Vice President

Elite Hosting Solutions LLC
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NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.
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[Sully]

Got the same one today.

 

[thedjdragon]

To all

thankyou so much,

I am a newbie to selling domains, and got the email today,
replied, and just thought I'd do some research.

Yet again, saved by the kindness of forums!

thanks guys (and girls)

Hassan

 

[creatively]

I just searched for this content and it came and so thanks, it saved my hide!

 

[Archangel]

Glad we could help!

I just searched for this content and it came and so thanks, it saved my hide!

 

[Herb07]

Too good to be true

What first tipped me off was when i checked the whois to match up the name on the company, they had all sorts of privacy enabled. I like to do that some times for some of my domains for privacy reasons, so I decided to investigate further on google and it brought me to this site If someone try's to contact you about your domain name it is worth your time to do a little investigating like i did.

thanks guys

here is the spam scam that was sent to me.

Hello,

How much do you ask for this domain for sale?

Our company buy and sell domains and developed sites.

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Brad Ridding

CEO

Elite Network Solutions LLC
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message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.
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[Jiminy]

elitenethosting.com scam

It's still happening. I almost fell for it.

From: <[email protected]>Date: 11/05/2010 7:55 AM Hello, How much do you ask for this domain for sale? Our company buy and sell domains and developed sites. If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list. Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Joseph Young


Vice President Elite Hosting Solutions LLC

 

[safernet]

Hi

Hi iv had this self and same email 2day from [email protected]

what a joke. thanks to who ever started this warning.

bit of info on the sender anyways

i.p = 213.140.225.228

country: Russian Federation
state: Khabarovsk
city: Dada
latitude:49.1667
longitude:136.4833

long and lati is abit off but there is a small town just at side of the river there > reka prot. naykhinskaya < ????? think thats rite.
Any ways whos up for a road trip?
thanks again every1 for the heads up :loveyou::loveyou::loveyou::loveyou:

 

[CMRMedia]

I too received this wonderful letter today. Keep the information coming, I've contacted the private registrar service and I'm compiling all the information here to submit to the FBI cyber crimes division. Probably futile, but worth a bit of my time anyway.

 

[inquirerSG]

damn i just received it

 

[rabid_nerd]

Received 6 hours ago... Even though I've been relatively inactive buying/selling domains for a few years, I figured searching would bring me back here.. Thanks guys..

On Edit: It was on a domain I had JUST added to SEDO Parking. I haven't used SEDO in 2 years.


From: <[email protected]>

Hello,

How much do you ask for this domain for sale?

Our company buy and sell domains and developed sites. If you have other
domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Joseph Young

Vice President

Elite Hosting Solutions LLC
========================================================
NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.
========================================================

 

[smashedpumpkins]

I have a few domains I was looking to sell and sure enough I received the same old email from Young. I'm going to play with him now.

Hello,

How much do you ask for this domain for sale?

Our company buy and sell domains and developed sites. If you have other
domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Joseph Young

Vice President

Elite Hosting Solutions LLC
========================================================
NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.
========================================================

Can you accept 5,000 USD?

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust. 
 
To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies.
 
Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
http://www.domainexplorer.org/Archive/87469105.htm
 
If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly.  It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method:  Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.

It's a standard practice to show independent valuation to buyers/resellers.
Nobody will do business without it. I'm a businessman and have no intention
of changing rules which help both parties to avoid additional risks.

Of course, investors never take into account auto-generated valuations. So
manual valuation is a "must" too.

I read the following information about appraisals at:

http://www.domainexplorer.org/Archive/87469105.htm

Without the independent valuation from a trusted source we don't spend a
penny. This is our financial policy. So our offer is just a rought estimate.
If the appraisal comes higher we are ready to offer a bit more. If it comes
lower we will discuss the price with you again.


Thank you for understanding. I'm looking forward to do business with you.

Hope we can come to an agreement fast because I'll be on vacation soon.

As a seller you should provide me with an appraisal first. This is a reasonable practice.

I've found not all the appraisals are accurate. So I accept real manual appraisals from trusted sources only.

I don't trust $14-$20 services. Nobody will do a research for $14. We need a real manual service.

I researched several companies and here are the results:
 
In the beginning I  wanted to engage AccurateDomains.com as appraiser but looks like this company has very bad reputation.
 
I also considered www.Afternic.com, but now it's clear their service is not reliable enough.
Just read this:
http://www.igoldrush.com/links3.htm
"Capsule Review: After lots of complaints, Afternic is no longer a recommended service. We will re-review the service in the near future."

Another complaint
http://www.out-law.com/page-1630

 
I was told about manual research service from http://www.DomainMart.com. It costs - $200/hour. 
 
Many experienced sellers suggested us http://www.BestDomainExperts.com as a trustworth manual service. They charge per name not per hour. We've read only positive comments about them. And I have my own positive experience with this company and their support.

 

[lucdima]

I've also receive the scam email from Young <[email protected]>
Maybe it's some black ad campaign from sedo.com.

These are the reasons:
1. I've only register my domain for sail a sedo.com for free.
2. One of the two websites that appear for apprise that appear at the email says powered by sedo. And sedo.com offers apprising for 29 USD!!! and the other one for more than 60€.
3. If you have your domain at sedo it's easy enough to do the apprising...
4. The email text is clever enough to force you make an apprising, and a logical mind would do it at sedo, for pricing!

So be carefull with sedo.com and Mr Young it's a robot.

Any domain broker to recomend? thank you!!
Lucas

 

[garptrader]

I received this email for a domain which I registered just a few days ago (Cancer-de-Seno.com) with two hyphens which I registered only because a friend of mine who was diagnosed with breast cancer wants to create a website to share her experience. I thought the inquiry was odd so checked Google for the company and fortunately found this thread. I wouldn't pay for an appraisal anyway but... Now should I respond?

email from [email protected]

Hello,

How much do you ask for this domain for sale?

Our company invests in domains and developed web sites. If you have other
domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Daniel Golcaves

Vice President

Elite Web Investing Solutions LLC
========================================================
NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
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unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.
========================================================

 

[PatrikJohnsson]

Got an email from Daniel Goncalves [[email protected]]

I got the email from Daniel Goncalves [[email protected]] and fell into the trap of buying a domain appraisal, so thank you for posting about him so I didn't continue my adventures with him!

 

[Kate]

Hmmmm...
http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and-alerts/242301-elitehost-net-possible-appraisal-scam.html
Grand Jury Indicts Daniel Goncalves On Domain Theft Charges | Domain Name News

 

[<domain99>]

I got the email from Daniel Goncalves [[email protected]] and fell into the trap of buying a domain appraisal, so thank you for posting about him so I didn't continue my adventures with him!

I also get email from him. And the bad news i have been cheated. T.T
I paid for domain appraisal for $80.00++. OMG, it really waste. I paid using SWREG, can i dispute back my money?
I hate Scammer!!! F%#KK!!!

 

[loredan]

Got the same email from Ross Davis

[email protected]

Hello,

How much do you ask for this domain for sale?

Our company invests in domains and developed web sites. If you have other
domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Ross Davis

President

Elite Web Investing & Hosting Solutions LLC
========================================================
NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.
========================================================

 

[tele]

He/They are still at it - I got this email 11 hours ago on a domain I won in a GoDaddy expired auction. I reported the email as Spam.

Email addy:

stolz (@) elitenethosting.com

He's calling himself Andrew Stolz today ...


QUOTE: "Hello,

How much do you ask for this domain for sale?

Our company invests in domains and developed web sites. If you have other
domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Andrew Stolz

Vice President

Web Investing & Hosting Solutions LLC
========================================================
NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.
======================================================== " QUOTE END

 

[FatHive]

[email protected] ... scam

Hello,

How much do you ask for this domain for sale?

Our company invests in domains and developed web sites. If you have other
domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Andrew Stolz

Vice President

Web Investing & Hosting Solutions LLC
========================================================
NOTICE - This communication may contain confidential and privileged
information that is for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
viewing, copying or distribution of, or reliance on this message by
unintended recipients is strictly prohibited. If you have received this
message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message
and deleting it from your computer.
================================

Then after that

Can you accept 5,000 USD?

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies.

Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
domainexplorer.org/Archive/93851614.htm

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.

loser needs to be smart about it ...

 

[Azam.biz]

Andrew Stolz of [email protected] also keeps emailing us with this scam.

Avoid this fraudster.

 

[RickM]

I got one of these today...from "Andrew". He wasnt exactly happy to hear that I was a long-term member and ex-moderator of the biggest domain community

 

[FatHive]

Andrew Stolz of [email protected] also keeps emailing us with this scam.

Avoid this fraudster.

Yess

Then he also send me this when i said estibot or yo appraisal.

No, no, no!

Of course, we should not use free auto-generated services like
EstiBot.com - Free Domain Appraisal and Domain Productivity Tools or SwiftAppraisal.com | Free Domain Name Appraisals.

Almost everyone knows that free auto-generated appraisals from NameBoy.com
or Estibot.com or SwiftAppraisal.com are jokes. Serious investors never take
into account free auto-generated appraisals. This site appraises even bogus
names at $50,000-$60,000. So all these companies mentionet above are NOT
acceptable.
I've found not all the appraisals are accurate. So I accept real manual appraisals from trusted sources only.

I don't trust $14-$20 services. Nobody will do a research for $14. We need a real manual service.

I researched several companies and here are the results:

In the beginning I wanted to engage AccurateDomains.com as appraiser but looks like this company has very bad reputation.

I also considered Afternic Domain Name Search: Buy, Sell, Resell, Park & Purchase Domain Names for Sale, but now it's clear their service is not reliable enough.
Just read this:
iGoldrush Domain Brokers Resources
"Capsule Review: After lots of complaints, Afternic is no longer a recommended service. We will re-review the service in the near future."

Another complaint
Lawsuit alleges dealings in stolen domain name | Pinsent Masons LLP


I was told about manual research service from ■ DomainMart - Domain Name Consulting (Valuation, Appraisal, Portfolio Management, Investment, Leasing, Selecting TLDs), Corporate Training. It costs - $200/hour.

Many experienced sellers suggested us Domain Services as a trustworth manual service. They charge per name not per hour. We've read only positive comments about them. And I have my own positive experience with this company and their support.

 

[nielsencl]

I posted about another scammer, and in reading through this thread I don't see anyone talking about reporting this one. Please consider reporting them to their hosting company and domain registrar. Sometimes that won't work, but in most cases when you send the email and headers and can refer to great threads like this one, it gives them enough information to close the hosting account, and more importantly, allows the registrar to suspend the domain. Some registrarss will, some won't, but the more complaints they get, the more likely they are to do something.

The appraisal scam is a hard one to "prove", unless you can tie the person back to the appraisal site with WHOIS info, affiliate code, or something else. But these emails are clearly UCE or unsolicited commercial email and complaints should be taken seriously. The Russian IP address or even a proxy server IP should help your case.