Here's a new one for me...

Wouldn't want to be the guy who used to own the name right about now. Poor dude.

I'm a huge advocate of karma and as such I would take the offer and move right along. Good things will come your way and such is the way of life

Archive.org didn't have anything but I did some sleuthing via Google and found the previous whois data. It was registered Jan 2011-Jan 2012 and then I picked it up a couple weeks ago on the day it deleted. No bidding, I hand registered it.

I guess my real question is if GD's story is true, or if it's just a sob story to get a good deal on it for someone - whether the previous owner or someone else. The call is from their Domain Buy service, which I've never dealt with before, so for all I know this could be part of their normal selling tactics. The domain seemed to follow the normal drop process so it's not like GD accidentally dropped the domain halfway through the registration. I guess there's a chance that the former owner had it set to auto-renew and some GD error prevented that from taking place... but another, probably more likely scenario, could be that they didn't realize it expired until too late, decided to hand reg it on deletion, then since I beat them to it they've hired the Domain Buy service to buy it from me.

Assuming it's the previous owner who wants the domain back, after some research I've discovered that this individual owns nearly 1,000 domains at GD and they founded a company with annual revenue of $10-25 million dollars. Turns out my domain is the name of one of their main spinoff brands.

I think I'll give the rep a call today. Will keep y'all updated.

Fonzie said:

So, your negotiation strategy for dealing with a domain registrar who, for some bizarre reason, wants to acquire a .info name you just hand-registered is to make an open post on Namepros and ask the other monkeys what to do?

Here's a protip, Einstein.
Everything that's been said here is now being read by your counterparty at Godaddy.

Well done...

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You really think I'm that paranoid about a low-mid $xxx sale? LOL I posted this because it's a bizarre scenario (to me at least) that I found interesting. It's not like I posted the domain or any specific info. Anyways this name may be a .info but it certainly has potential to be worth more than what I'm being offered. It's registered in about 20 other extensions, many of which are developed.

To be quite honest I don't much care if they do read this... I'm not sold on their whole "we made a mistake" thing - if I had to guess I'd say they're just trying to get the mistakingly-dropped domain at a good price for their big client.

lennco said:

I think you can easily get your point across without the insults.

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...truth be told, I really don't think Fonzie has climbed to that stage of evolution yet. Maybe one day, maybe he just plain can't...

no matter, we still love da big ape!

Just to see what he says, I'm going to specifically ask the rep if he's been hired to purchase this name, or if they are truly paying out of pocket to correct an error.

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Just to see what he says, I'm going to specifically ask the rep if he's been hired to purchase this name, or if they are truly paying out of pocket to correct an error.

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I would only focus on getting the money you want out of it. They will spin a yarn on that question thinking it will affect the price you will ask for, which means you cant believe the answer either way.

no trademarks on their spin brand?

This individual, if the one hoping to acquire my domain, has a number of trademarks, but none of them relate to the domain in question.

Talked to the guy a few minutes ago and it turns out the whole "we made a mistake" thing was indeed a ploy. When asked about it he was a bit flustered and turned it around as GD simply trying to help out their customer who let it expire. Maybe I should take the offer, but I turned it down expressing to him that I was put off by the sob story approach he took. If it was truly a GD error, with the purchase cost coming out of GD's pockets (as was initially claimed), yadda yadda yadda, I was ready to accept on the basis of helping them make things right with the previous owner. But a $300 offer from a huge company is not particularly enticing.

Moral of the story: Don't necessarily trust what GoDaddy's "Domain Buy Service" reps are telling you. This is my first time dealing with them, but from this experience I am led to believe that at least some of them will lie to get a bargain.

Fonzie said:

So, your negotiation strategy for dealing with a domain registrar who, for some bizarre reason, wants to acquire a .info name you just hand-registered is to make an open post on Namepros and ask the other monkeys what to do?

Here's a protip, Einstein.
Everything that's been said here is now being read by your counterparty at Godaddy.

Well done...

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Here's a pro tip Fonzie. Don't be an a-hole.

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Talked to the guy a few minutes ago and it turns out the whole "we made a mistake" thing was indeed a ploy. When asked about it he was a bit flustered and turned it around as GD simply trying to help out their customer who let it expire. Maybe I should take the offer, but I turned it down expressing to him that I was put off by the sob story approach he took. If it was truly a GD error, with the purchase cost coming out of GD's pockets (as was initially claimed), yadda yadda yadda, I was ready to accept on the basis of helping them make things right with the previous owner. But a $300 offer from a huge company is not particularly enticing.

Moral of the story: Don't necessarily trust what GoDaddy's "Domain Buy Service" reps are telling you. This is my first time dealing with them, but from this experience I am led to believe that at least some of them will lie to get a bargain.

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Counter w/ $500 plus five years of the Discount Domain Club (cost is nothing to them)

dubstep said:

Moral of the story: Don't necessarily trust what GoDaddy's "Domain Buy Service" reps are telling you. This is my first time dealing with them, but from this experience I am led to believe that at least some of them will lie to get a bargain.

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...and that is a sad moral, indeed...shame on GoDaddy.

Just tell the truth and let the chips fall where they may and in that way you do not tarnish your reputation, which is the most valuable asset of any company...

Shame on Godaddy.... Looking forward to the outcome/sell.

I think the "poor college student" tactic would have worked better in this situation

Tell them you will only sell it to them, if you can spend a night with one of those superbowl Godaddy girls.

dubstep said:

Talked to the guy a few minutes ago and it turns out the whole "we made a mistake" thing was indeed a ploy. When asked about it he was a bit flustered and turned it around as GD simply trying to help out their customer who let it expire. Maybe I should take the offer, but I turned it down expressing to him that I was put off by the sob story approach he took. If it was truly a GD error, with the purchase cost coming out of GD's pockets (as was initially claimed), yadda yadda yadda, I was ready to accept on the basis of helping them make things right with the previous owner. But a $300 offer from a huge company is not particularly enticing.

Moral of the story: Don't necessarily trust what GoDaddy's "Domain Buy Service" reps are telling you. This is my first time dealing with them, but from this experience I am led to believe that at least some of them will lie to get a bargain.

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lol
Story just got more interesting.:sold:

dubstep said:

You really think I'm that paranoid about a low-mid $xxx sale?

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Failure 1: You strategize on an open forum.
Does GD read these forums? 100% yes they do, so your thoughts have been open-booked to your counter party.

Failure 2: You're seeking council from a crowd of people who, mostly, suck at this just as bad as you apparently do.

Failure 3: Subsequent to the HIGHLY unusual occurance of being contacted by a registrar to re-acquire a name you recently purchased from them (suggesting some pretty significant leverage in your favor), you dismissively write it off as a "low-mid XXX sale", because that's what they initially offered you?

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

Your actions here could be Chapter 1 of "How To Completely Fail At Cold Inquiry Negotiations".

If you want to know how to handle this, I'll be more than happy to tell you, just so the criticism is constructive.

First off, you ignore their inquiry.
Secondly, you immediately identify the ownership history of that domain. There's a very good chance the last owner is impelling this process on the basis of a registrar/registrant breach of contract (early deletion or pre-release transfer)

Next, you contact that owner to see what's up. It's actually perfectly OK if you piss off, annoy or otherwise agitate them because their anger comes out of the Registrar's ass, not yours. Feel them out. Is this mistake causing them financial loss? Are they prepared to sue? Hopefully, the answer is yes and whatever you can do to facilitate their rancor is in your favor.

Presuming this is a f'up on the registrars part and they transferred a domain to you in breach of an existing registrant agreement, the formula to calculate how much this domain is worth to that registrar (and in turn, you) is this.

(Their Lawsuit Costs) + (The Clients Demonstrable Loss) -25% = Your haul.

It would be akin to someone going into their grandfathers basement, pulling out a box of old baseball cards from the 1930's and deciding they want to sell them online. Instead of placing them on ebay (the standard, central market for baseball cards), they place them for sale on SuperBaseballcardBiddingExtravaganza.pro (an inefficient, non-standard, backwater marketplace). Yes they are going to be content with whatever price results, whether that price is reflective of actual value or not, because they had no idea what they were doing in the first place.

I have no interest whatsoever in fashion, don't live in London, fully comprehend that to make a name like earn would take a substantial investment in full scale development and marketing that I'm not willing to do, yet as a domain name alone (and I'm not even a 'domainer') I- quite possibly the cheapest SOB on earth- am willing to offer double what the entire BIDO collective was willing to pay for that name, just on impulse? (and only because it's a retarded lowball offer that twomoon would be stupid to take since the name is worth considerably more- but if you just want out of that name, twomoon, let me know)

No one is saying .us is going to supplant .com in the minds of US consumers, ever. What some people 'get' is that some mid to mid/large sized businesses don't mind .us all that much, and as far as development goes, if your objective is to target US consumers in the engines... well... nevermind.

Yes. The above is random nonsense intended to make it look like I made an effort. My original post was removed because rather than fuel fonzie with more monkey fodder I'd rather take a dump and throw feces.

Hahaha Fonzie here's an article for you to check out. Surely one of those 10 options will suit you?

By the way it was not a GD error. The domain followed the standard drop cycle and I registered it upon deletion. The GD rep initially claimed it was a GD error and that they were paying me out of pocket to make it right. In my return phone call he backed off that claim.

I think you missed something here so let me spell it out for you. It's a $0.67 .info hand reg from a few weeks ago so I have very little invested. I do not care if, by some chance, the specific GD rep that called me happens across this thread. If anything at least then he'll know not to lie to me next time he tries to get a deal on one of my names. I do know that it's worth more than $300 to an/this end user, though.

Just ignore all further enquiries for it, until they offer up a sensible amount. The end

dubstep said:

By the way it was not a GD error.

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Thats what godaddy told you!

freedom30 said:

...truth be told, I really don't think Fonzie has climbed to that stage of evolution yet. Maybe one day, maybe he just plain can't...

no matter, we still love da big ape!

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I can just picture Fonzie's primary school teachers trying to grade him for "Plays well with others?"

Hmmm, let's see how Fonzie rates...
Pass? No way!
Fail? No, that just doesn't convey what needs to be said.
Not a chance in hell? OH YEAH, that sums it up just about PERFECTLY!"

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With this said, I personally think Fonzie has a lot of very useful knowledge and experience that is highly valuable, it's just that his presentation skills are a little rough... :hehe:

Many of the best life and business lessons I've learned came from people that had "strong" personalities.

whatever happened with this?

I am facing something similar, due to a claimed godaddy error.

but in my case, I won an typical expired domain auction (only bidder), paid for it, and have had the domain in my account for over a week. with my info as registrant.


email from GD rep says they will take the domain out of my account and give it to someone else (supposedly a previous registrant).

cdboard said:

I am facing something similar, due to a claimed godaddy error.

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Fonzie outlined what to do:

Fonzie said:

First off, you ignore their inquiry.
Secondly, you immediately identify the ownership history of that domain. There's a very good chance the last owner is impelling this process on the basis of a registrar/registrant breach of contract (early deletion or pre-release transfer)

Next, you contact that owner to see what's up. It's actually perfectly OK if you piss off, annoy or otherwise agitate them because their anger comes out of the Registrar's ass, not yours. Feel them out. Is this mistake causing them financial loss? Are they prepared to sue? Hopefully, the answer is yes and whatever you can do to facilitate their rancor is in your favor.

Presuming this is a f'up on the registrars part and they transferred a domain to you in breach of an existing registrant agreement, the formula to calculate how much this domain is worth to that registrar (and in turn, you) is this.

(Their Lawsuit Costs) + (The Clients Demonstrable Loss) -25% = Your haul.

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Hopefully Fonzie will come back from his self imposed exile :great:

Fonzie outlined what to do:

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difference is, GD's email did not ask if I wanted to sell. It said they were going to take.

cdboard said:

whatever happened with this?

I am facing something similar, due to a claimed godaddy error.

but in my case, I won an typical expired domain auction (only bidder), paid for it, and have had the domain in my account for over a week. with my info as registrant.


email from GD rep says they will take the domain out of my account and give it to someone else (supposedly a previous registrant).

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This is definitely disturbing.

I thought that once the domain hit your account after redemption hell week, it was yours.

Has anyone else had issues with Godaddy doing a clawback after the domain has been awarded to you and shows your registrant info? If so, please post here


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