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domain wintergreen.com - appraisals, advice please
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Very very nice... I'm assuming you have one of the many Trademarks for this? If you're getting offers to buy, rather than cease & desist orders from corps trying to nab it from you, I can assume you're the rightful owner of a trademark and I'll proceed on that:
huge usage for wintergreen. Beautiful to have this name, as you know if you're getting offers for it. The industries that use the word, primarily food/candy/gum/mints, are very lucrative... and you've got the prime name for some of their products/flavorings. Is that the industry you're in yourself? When you say 'we', I assume you're a smaller company that owns the tm and this dn... and that you think it may be more lucrative to sell to a large company? I can't tell since the Whois for the dn is locked, and there's no website or even parked page for this name to give me any clues...
If you kept this name, there are definitely good ways to monetize it for a great monthly income for the rest of your life... but you were asking for a selling price appraisal, so I'll stick with that:
valuable name; would be nice to know what prices you were being offered. I'm going to give some solid numbers because this is a huge name within its industries and it's very valuable to have as a site name, and attractive to some large firms for sure.
If they're offering you less than low xx,xxx, forget it. List this name with www.sedo.com, and www.Greatdomains.com if you haven't already, they will both give you a lot of exposure and bids... you'll see what it's really worth, rather than guessing by what offers are trickling in via other avenues. Don't even list a minimum bid at sedo; the ceiling they allow in their price fields when you list your name there is 10,000, and you should laugh at a bid that low, so just leave the price fields all blank, they will default on the 'for sale' pages as 'make offer'.
You'll get some good bidding over this name; definitely auction it rather than fixed price. Be sure to contact anyone who's offered to buy it, let them know it's now up for auction wherever you put it.
If it were mine and I was selling it rather than monetizing, I think on a bad day I might take 25,000. It'd have to be a pretty bad day. On a good day.........?
BTW, welcome to Namepros! Another new member with a killer domain name we can all drool over, with your very first post. That happened recently with champ.com, and with of.com, and to a lesser value with some others. You've got one of the good ones.
huge usage for wintergreen. Beautiful to have this name, as you know if you're getting offers for it. The industries that use the word, primarily food/candy/gum/mints, are very lucrative... and you've got the prime name for some of their products/flavorings. Is that the industry you're in yourself? When you say 'we', I assume you're a smaller company that owns the tm and this dn... and that you think it may be more lucrative to sell to a large company? I can't tell since the Whois for the dn is locked, and there's no website or even parked page for this name to give me any clues...
If you kept this name, there are definitely good ways to monetize it for a great monthly income for the rest of your life... but you were asking for a selling price appraisal, so I'll stick with that:
valuable name; would be nice to know what prices you were being offered. I'm going to give some solid numbers because this is a huge name within its industries and it's very valuable to have as a site name, and attractive to some large firms for sure.
If they're offering you less than low xx,xxx, forget it. List this name with www.sedo.com, and www.Greatdomains.com if you haven't already, they will both give you a lot of exposure and bids... you'll see what it's really worth, rather than guessing by what offers are trickling in via other avenues. Don't even list a minimum bid at sedo; the ceiling they allow in their price fields when you list your name there is 10,000, and you should laugh at a bid that low, so just leave the price fields all blank, they will default on the 'for sale' pages as 'make offer'.
You'll get some good bidding over this name; definitely auction it rather than fixed price. Be sure to contact anyone who's offered to buy it, let them know it's now up for auction wherever you put it.
If it were mine and I was selling it rather than monetizing, I think on a bad day I might take 25,000. It'd have to be a pretty bad day. On a good day.........?
BTW, welcome to Namepros! Another new member with a killer domain name we can all drool over, with your very first post. That happened recently with champ.com, and with of.com, and to a lesser value with some others. You've got one of the good ones.
wintergreen.com - seeking apprisals, advice
Thanks for your response. Am registering with Sedo. There was
an interesting article about them in the Boston Business Journal.
Your feedback is confirming what we're just coming to realize.
Any additional tips, etc. much welcome. Do you think it's worth
paying Sedo for one of their two appraisal services ($29-$49)?
And, would it be worth it to do their "exclusive" marketing plan?
Anyone have any experience with this??? Much thanks for your
time and good advice!
Thanks for your response. Am registering with Sedo. There was
an interesting article about them in the Boston Business Journal.
Your feedback is confirming what we're just coming to realize.
Any additional tips, etc. much welcome. Do you think it's worth
paying Sedo for one of their two appraisal services ($29-$49)?
And, would it be worth it to do their "exclusive" marketing plan?
Anyone have any experience with this??? Much thanks for your
time and good advice!
What are your recent serious $$$ inquiries (and from whom)? :talk:
Link: http://www.wintergreen.ca
Link: http://www.wintergreenresort.com
Link: http://www.wintergreengolf.com
Etc. :talk:
IMHO, you should begin your own marketings to End users campaign, and simply build upon each received / negotiated offer ... if it was mine, I'd begin at $7,250 - $8,750+, in my own personal view (and then settle once I've reached an agreeable price -and- possibly even given it one last go-around with the domain broker folks at Sedo (for a fee/%), etc.). :gl:
All the best! :gn:
-Jeff
Link: http://www.wintergreen.ca
Link: http://www.wintergreenresort.com
Link: http://www.wintergreengolf.com
Etc. :talk:
IMHO, you should begin your own marketings to End users campaign, and simply build upon each received / negotiated offer ... if it was mine, I'd begin at $7,250 - $8,750+, in my own personal view (and then settle once I've reached an agreeable price -and- possibly even given it one last go-around with the domain broker folks at Sedo (for a fee/%), etc.). :gl:
All the best! :gn:
-Jeff
bucky said:
You can get an appraisal from them out of interest, but for this name I think they won't be particularly accurate; the kind of name that could have a widely swinging price range from one expert to the next, and from one set of computer calculations to the next.
If you want to start low and reasonable, Jeff's suggestion is good (I'd go for higher, as is obvious by my above reply); I did check out many of the end users before I pm'd you earlier, and have no doubt you'll get some bidding and some high offers quickly.
Wherever you list, once again make sure you contact anyone who's made you an offer, and let them know your name's up for sale/auction there... and nothing wrong with contacting new end users out of the blue and also telling them it's up for sale, and where to make bids.
Greatdomains.com will take this name (they have strict criteria on which names they accept, and don't list very many); they're free to list with, they WILL accept this name, and they will probably contact you personally to discuss things like fair starting price, etc.
You've got a lot of homework ahead, ha. But you'll come out nice on this one.
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I think sedo is the place to go with this excellent name - it has an overture result of 1295 for wintergreen.com (with extension).
I personally would get it appraised with sedo to give you a respectable "ball park" figure - contact Mara at sedo to set it up - she's real nice and a member here at NP's.
This name could be worth a fair bit - xx,xxx up to who knows what IMO
- Good luck and welcome to NP's
Don't ya just love it when the first post is a "peachy name" :lol:
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I personally would get it appraised with sedo to give you a respectable "ball park" figure - contact Mara at sedo to set it up - she's real nice and a member here at NP's.
This name could be worth a fair bit - xx,xxx up to who knows what IMO
- Good luck and welcome to NP's
Don't ya just love it when the first post is a "peachy name" :lol:
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wintergreen.com - high overture?
Thanks for all the feedback!!!
Excuse my newbieness here, but what's the meaning of the
"overture results"?
I found a link to something about overture in another thread at
http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/
and got
1295 for www.wintergreen.com and wintergreen.com
10722 for just wintergreen
is this the right place, and what do these numbers mean?
Thanks again! - bucky
Thanks for all the feedback!!!
Excuse my newbieness here, but what's the meaning of the
"overture results"?
I found a link to something about overture in another thread at
http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/
and got
1295 for www.wintergreen.com and wintergreen.com
10722 for just wintergreen
is this the right place, and what do these numbers mean?
Thanks again! - bucky
The numbers mean how many people searched for "phrase or word" in the last month ast YAHOO.
About 1300 people typed exactly "wintergreen.com" at yahoo search boxes in january 2006.
While 10722 typed "wintergreen" during the same time, these stats show how popular or in demand your url is.
About 1300 people typed exactly "wintergreen.com" at yahoo search boxes in january 2006.
While 10722 typed "wintergreen" during the same time, these stats show how popular or in demand your url is.
Jeff said:What are your recent serious $$$ inquiries (and from whom)? :talk:
Link: http://www.wintergreen.ca
Link: http://www.wintergreenresort.com
Link: http://www.wintergreengolf.com
Etc. :talk:
IMHO, you should begin your own marketings to End users campaign, and simply build upon each received / negotiated offer ... if it was mine, I'd begin at $7,250 - $8,750+, in my own personal view (and then settle once I've reached an agreeable price -and- possibly even given it one last go-around with the domain broker folks at Sedo (for a fee/%), etc.). :gl:
All the best! :gn:
-Jeff
To answer Jeff's and a few other proir questions here -
Recent inquiries were serious enough to make us consider selling the
wintergreen.com domain after years of hanging on to it. We used it
actively for years, but have been using it only for email recently.
Some of the earlier offers (over 5 years ago) were well over $5K.
A few recent healthy offers came with legal contracts with provisions
we didn't like, obviously written by lawyers who didn't understand
the issues, which is when we started checking into this forum.
I don't want to say WHO specifically is making offers, but they're
from legitimate USA businesses in profitable industries, not necessarily
the obvious ones. We've also received several spam-ish looking inquiries
that looked more like promos for escrow.com.
We did get a few legal-looking letters/threats about the domain name
a few years back. We told them to go ahead and sue us, but nothing
ever hapened. The word "wintergreen" is not something anyone can
claim ownership to any more than another person. We just got lucky
having picked it back in 93 when we started working online.
Aside from the obvious wintergreen-flavored-food-products industries,
there are the resorts/entertainment/travel potentials and those that
sell the plants and the oils and other products made therefrom. There
are also other nuances of the word with it's play on winter and green,
and it could be a great name for a mass-market portal-type service
with its memorable name...
Any other ideas of where to take our thoughts in doing our own
marketing are very welcome -- we're trying to build an list of companies
and email addresses (and hopefully contact names) to contact as soon
as the listings that we requested on Sedo and GreatDomains show up.
We didn't submit anywhere else yet aside from here on NamePros.
It's been two days since we submitted the requests. Does anyone know
how long it takes to get into those systems?
Cool - You look like you will make a very very nice sale - To list on sedo only takes a couple of minutes to get it up there.
If you have tried already and its not there I suggest you contact mara@sedo
She will get it sorted for sure - Best of Luck, please keep us posted
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If you have tried already and its not there I suggest you contact mara@sedo
She will get it sorted for sure - Best of Luck, please keep us posted
.
Sedo is practically instantaneous; if it's not listed within minutes call them or email for help. Their parked pages will take a day or 3 to become active with your chosen optimized links, but just listing for sale happens right away.
Greatdomains on average takes 3 business days to get back to you, but can easily take up to 7, so be patient with them. They will probably phone you directy.
Those offers were, of course, quite low. But that's normal; no one is going to start off with their highest offer. Once the bids start at sedo you'll have a good idea of what it's REALLY worth, commercially. IMO, Jeff's suggestion above is an ideal starting point to start negotiations as it doesn't scare off a corporation of any size; once they're hooked into the bidding and negotiation - especially since you will have a few of them bidding against each other - it's easier to get the prices rising. In the end, to reiterate, I wouldn't even think of settling for less than 25k.
You're already on the ball with end users, I can tell. All the industries you suggested are great to contact, I can't even think of any more that are worthwhile to add... someone else here might. And it's also feasible for you to keep it and develop it in a different way than you have in the past... a way which will bring a lucrative monthly income to you. **Might be worth your while to start a whole new thread in another section of Namepros asking for best suggestions to build this into a site with good income...
Greatdomains on average takes 3 business days to get back to you, but can easily take up to 7, so be patient with them. They will probably phone you directy.
Those offers were, of course, quite low. But that's normal; no one is going to start off with their highest offer. Once the bids start at sedo you'll have a good idea of what it's REALLY worth, commercially. IMO, Jeff's suggestion above is an ideal starting point to start negotiations as it doesn't scare off a corporation of any size; once they're hooked into the bidding and negotiation - especially since you will have a few of them bidding against each other - it's easier to get the prices rising. In the end, to reiterate, I wouldn't even think of settling for less than 25k.
You're already on the ball with end users, I can tell. All the industries you suggested are great to contact, I can't even think of any more that are worthwhile to add... someone else here might. And it's also feasible for you to keep it and develop it in a different way than you have in the past... a way which will bring a lucrative monthly income to you. **Might be worth your while to start a whole new thread in another section of Namepros asking for best suggestions to build this into a site with good income...
Thanks for the info (still curious as to who is making the potentially serious offers, etc.) ... :talk:
Don't see it yet on Sedo: http://www.sedo.com/search/searchresult.php4 (but see that "Wintergreen.biz" is For Sale)! :gl:
Perhaps contacting Mara directly would be a good idea, as Sedo listings are typically pretty fluid, IMHO.
Please keep us posted, and again all the best!
-Jeff
Don't see it yet on Sedo: http://www.sedo.com/search/searchresult.php4 (but see that "Wintergreen.biz" is For Sale)! :gl:
Perhaps contacting Mara directly would be a good idea, as Sedo listings are typically pretty fluid, IMHO.
Please keep us posted, and again all the best!
-Jeff
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Im from Charlottesville Va and Wintergreen is no more than an hour away. I would give my left *^&4 to have this domain. Im willing to pay $X,XXXX for it right now. But I know you wouldn't do that. Oh, an appraisal Mid XXX,XXX.
Still waiting for Sedo and GreatDomains to list wintergreen.com...
It would go faster if we 'park' it, but I haven't decided which place
to put it, or if I should just put up new pages on my current host.
Will let you all know what kind of activity it gets once it's listed.
My brother suggests advertising in Newspapers or one of the trade journals.
Anyone with any experience self-promoting a sale or with engaging an
'exclusive' marketing arrangement, please let me know how it went.
Further appraisals and comments very welcome. And thanks
very much for all the feedback!!! - bucky
It would go faster if we 'park' it, but I haven't decided which place
to put it, or if I should just put up new pages on my current host.
Will let you all know what kind of activity it gets once it's listed.
My brother suggests advertising in Newspapers or one of the trade journals.
Anyone with any experience self-promoting a sale or with engaging an
'exclusive' marketing arrangement, please let me know how it went.
Further appraisals and comments very welcome. And thanks
very much for all the feedback!!! - bucky
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hey
Dude. Just look up the Daily Progress. Thats the newspaper here in Charlottesville, Va. One of the best places to live in the world. Im sure you'll get some buzz there. If you want to pm me I can tell you more. I live ridiculously close to Wintergreen.
bucky said:
Dude. Just look up the Daily Progress. Thats the newspaper here in Charlottesville, Va. One of the best places to live in the world. Im sure you'll get some buzz there. If you want to pm me I can tell you more. I live ridiculously close to Wintergreen.
bucky said:
Hi Bucky - The best place to sell it and park it I think is sedo.com - They have far more good sales listed on a monthly basis than most places.
If you park it then when someone types it in the traffic to the domain will be recorded and this usually helps. Plus - any potential buyer will likely try to type it in to see if it is taken.
It only takes a few minutes to park with sedo - PM me if you need any help with that ?
There is a website that logs alot of the sales from 2004 to 2006 Take a look and you will see that sedo has far more sales than Great Domains - (snapnames is a drop company for expiring names so works alot differently)
2006 sales over $10,000 - http://www.dnjournal.com/ytd-sales-charts.htm
2005 - http://www.dnjournal.com/archive/domainsales/2005-expanded-ytd.htm
2004 - http://www.dnjournal.com/archive/domainsales/2004-expanded-ytd.htm
Good Luck
I'd love to know how you get on - please keep us posted..
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Wintergeen.com is now showing up on Sedo as being for sale.
I ordered the featured listing service, which should show up soon.
Still waiting for it to come through on GreatDomains. Haven't put it
anywhere else yet. Anyone have any experience with Moniker?
I ordered the featured listing service, which should show up soon.
Still waiting for it to come through on GreatDomains. Haven't put it
anywhere else yet. Anyone have any experience with Moniker?
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