domain windowsxpprofessional.com

[spycraft]

I registered the above domain recently and was wondering what you would think its value is.

While reading previous posts I understand that I might have to deal with TM issues. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks so much in advance!

 

[jdenwar]

Hi there,
Welcome to NP... :hi:

windowsxpprofessional.com

$0.... :imho:

100% TM issues..... i think


I would say drop it as soon as possible...

Call Godaddy at this number..480-505-8877 and ask for the refund....

Good Luck with your future registrations!

-James

 

[spycraft]

Thanks so much jdenwar for your prompt reply and for welcoming me to NP!

I would like to look more into the issue before I drop the domain. Obviously the domain refers to the operating software, however, it also has a meaning. This could potentially be the name of a business - someone who is a professional when it comes to Windows XP. In a more far stretched thought someone with experience in actual windows (windows experienced professional).

How can you check if the domain does indeed violate trademark issues? If someone tries to sell the domain to the Trademark owner in question, would it be considered "bad will". I read somewhere that this is a term they use to accuse someone of trademark infringement.


Thanks again!

 

[jdenwar]

I would like to look more into the issue before I drop the domain. Obviously the domain refers to the operating software, however, it also has a meaning. This could potentially be the name of a business - someone who is a professional when it comes to Windows XP. In a more far stretched thought someone with experience in actual windows (windows experienced professional).

Hey,

Using Windows on a domain is a TM already......

How can you start a new business name Windows Xp professional...:lol:

If someone tries to sell the domain to the Trademark owner in question, would it be considered "bad will".

Dont think you will be able to sell this domain to Microsoft and get good $$$$....

I would strongly suggest to drop this domain...as per wish..

Good luck!

 

[DubDubDubDot]

This could potentially be the name of a business - someone who is a professional when it comes to Windows XP. In a more far stretched thought someone with experience in actual windows (windows experienced professional).

That usually doesn't fly, and forget about contacting MS to sell it to them.

There was once a boy named Mike Rowe who liked programming, so he registered his name with "soft" at the end.

MikeRoweSoft.com

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Rowe_(student)
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Microsoft offered to pay Rowe's out-of-pocket expenses of $10, the original cost of registering the domain name.[10] Rowe countered asking instead for $10,000, later claiming that he did this because he was "mad at" Microsoft for their initial $10 offer.[5] Microsoft declined the offer and sent a cease and desist order spanning 25 pages. Microsoft accused Rowe of setting up the site in order to try to force them into a large financial settlement, a practice resembling blackmail and known as cybersquatting.[2]
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[spycraft]

wow! <--- not to be confused with the game

I guess it's a lost cause then... Maybe there is not point in hoping. Nothing that seems too good to be true ever is hehe

Thanks a lot everyone for your advice.

To be quite honest, I'll research the issue a bit further before I make any sudden moves... you never know, right? Or maybe you do... We'll see!

On a sidenote... How is it that so many people have registered/sold "youtube" like names?

Most of them are associated with porn in one way or another. What is the difference there?

 

[oliviaheart]

Yeah,

I can see how the domain can be swung either way

- Trademark Infringement

- Named Skill

If you're a mechanic that specializes in BMWs,
It doesn't seem fair that you'd get sued for having BMWspecialist.com

 

[DubDubDubDot]

On a sidenote... How is it that so many people have registered/sold "youtube" like names?

Most of them are associated with porn in one way or another. What is the difference there?

It would be a stretch for YouTube/Google to claim infringement on anything with "tube" in it. That term has been connected to TV sets from the beginning.

eBay shuts down almost anyone using "bay" in their name, but their use of the word is so unique.

 

[spycraft]

It would be a stretch for YouTube/Google to claim infringement on anything with "tube" in it. That term has been connected to TV sets from the beginning.

That makes sense... Then again I am sure we can find other examples that could be considered infringements... Maybe ebay related or Star Wars fan pages even... It was noted that using windows in domain might be risky.. I think that's way stretched, don't you agree?

For every big online success, we get a bunch of related blogs or even fully developed sites... Are all of these "risky"? Or do they all contact the trademark owner? I am not a domain reseller pro, I do however make movies. In the film industry whenever you want to use anything related to a company you have to contact them and ask for permission or charge them for it. I thought Internet was the exact opposite cause if it wasn't, half of the blogs that are currently online are violating some sort of copyright law - pictures not owned by them, music not owned by them etc... I find it very hard to believe that everyone knows they have to or takes the time to contact the copyright holder for using their material.

Would love to hear your thoughts on that since I am really thinking of testing my skills in both domain reselling and developing.

Once again, I thank you all for replying! Please keep posting!

 

[DubDubDubDot]

Yeah,

I can see how the domain can be swung either way

- Trademark Infringement

- Named Skill

If you're a mechanic that specializes in BMWs,
It doesn't seem fair that you'd get sued for having BMWspecialist.com

That is probably a case of fair use. However if BMW released a car called the Specialist it would be a lot tougher for even a mechanic to justify registering the domain afterwards.

But let's assume that WindowsXPProfessional has a legit use. How many IT guys want to present themselves as "The Windows XP Professional" ? Seems ridiculous to me since they would be dealing with many more OS's and hardware.

 

[spycraft]

That is probably a case of fair use. However if BMW released a car called the Specialist it would be a lot tougher for even a mechanic to justify registering the domain afterwards.

But let's assume that WindowsXPProfessional has a legit use. How many IT guys want to present themselves as "The Windows XP Professional" ? Seems ridiculous to me since they would be dealing with many more OS's and hardware.

Very true - but think of it from the marketing point of view. Say we have a new business... A generic name is as good as nothing in a way... Using a name with an already built audience can really help. Of course the name wouldn't make much sense but it's a good start to attract visitors... Or think of it as a forum to help on WindowsXP issues. Search for a mac forum and you'll get a bunch of non-Apple forums. Some with lots of visitors.. How do these exist?

 

[cplmjk]

my advice: drop this domain and stay away from anything that can be suspect of trademark infringement in the future.

 

[VisualArtistFrankBonilla]

Thanks so much jdenwar for your prompt reply and for welcoming me to NP!

I would like to look more into the issue before I drop the domain. Obviously the domain refers to the operating software, however, it also has a meaning. This could potentially be the name of a business - someone who is a professional when it comes to Windows XP. In a more far stretched thought someone with experience in actual windows (windows experienced professional).

How can you check if the domain does indeed violate trademark issues? If someone tries to sell the domain to the Trademark owner in question, would it be considered "bad will". I read somewhere that this is a term they use to accuse someone of trademark infringement.


Thanks again!

Save yourself the grief, and try to get your money back! Listen to everyone here, they know what they are talking about! If not, soon the Microsoft police will be pounding at your front door!

Very true - but think of it from the marketing point of view. Say we have a new business... A generic name is as good as nothing in a way... Using a name with an already built audience can really help. Of course the name wouldn't make much sense but it's a good start to attract visitors... Or think of it as a forum to help on WindowsXP issues. Search for a mac forum and you'll get a bunch of non-Apple forums. Some with lots of visitors.. How do these exist?

They exist because they got permission first. You would have to get that from Microsoft. Odds...... not!


Frank :D

 

[Debt.tv]

Here is how you can think about it.

Did you think of windowsxpprofessional all by yourself or did the name come to you only because you have heard of it before. If it was the first one then ?????????? (still a violation), if it was the second one then you are trying to capitalize on someone elses ideas. That is bad.....really bad!

You are only 7-10 dollars in the hole right now. Get out while you can still get a refund.

good luck!

 

[HeyGeek]

Drop it like it's hot!