.tv Questions about .tv

[*AllThings.tv*]

Where do you think .tv will be 1 year from now?

Is it where you thought it would be 1 year ago (assuming you knew about it last year at this time)?

What do you think is the biggest obstacle to the growth of .tv?

Do you feel your .tv portfolio is worth double what it was before the relaunch of the .tv extension by Demand Media?

 

[SKG]

I think a year from now more great names will be available only because I think people will begin concentrating on select names in their portfolios and cleaning out there closets so to say which has in a way already begun.

.TV is about where I thought it would be a year ago with steady growth and nothing overwhelming. The driver for the giant media truck position is still interviewing. .COM or .TV or hybrid of both tv.com?

Bandwidth will be the biggest obstacle for growth primarily in the United States as well as copycats (thousands of sites offering the same thing just under a different name).

Parts of my portfolio have more than quadrupled but there are many parts that are either show 0 growth or mild growth and it is not from owning bad names because I do own a reputable collection. It has more to do with the availability of buyers. Until the board becomes the last place to sell to make a profit only then will the tides have changed. Presently the .TV board is a major market for sales which skews the overall market or reality.

A little lesson for all: If you have overwhelming interest in a domain then that is the one you should be developing and not selling. If you sell the best of your lot you will have a short term gain and will spend the monies buying more hoping only to get one like the one you sold. Not impossible, but very few will be successful in churning domains and the rest will lose more than they gained because flipping at these purchase prices have casino odds.

 

[TheBulldog]

I do think my portfolio is worth more now. A year from now I hope it is worth much more....

The biggest obstacle I see is that there seems to be little interest in tv outside of this forum for resellers. It is exceedingly rare to see a decent sale, maybe once every 2 weeks at best.

 

[smashfactory]

.tv then is not what it is now- all it takes is a push for anything to gain some momentum- i believe demand media is that push-
i see .tv being used- there are infomercials who use it (aquadots.tv is one - a redirect to the main store but they advertise on tv, the .tv), tv programming is starting to use it (acceptable.tv- and nick actually has a program called metv- NOT me.tv- but they are using the concept for video uploads)

stuff like this will only continue to make it a more known tld- and its a natural fit to the computer, so i believe it will be widely accepted and utilized.

like all good things- it takes time to grow

 

[DomainBuyerBroker]

Where do you think .tv will be 1 year from now?

Is it where you thought it would be 1 year ago (assuming you knew about it last year at this time)?

What do you think is the biggest obstacle to the growth of .tv?

Do you feel your .tv portfolio is worth double what it was before the relaunch of the .tv extension by Demand Media?

I think it's fair to compare the re-launch of .tv to the launch of .mobi. Both were big events in the domain space. Both are specialized domain extensions.

The .mobi came out in September of 2006 so we're only about 8 months into .mobi. There have been some good .mobi sales and many major brands have launched. mobi sites.

So, it might be fair to watch .mobi since it is about six months ahead of the .tv (re) launch.

Biggest obstacle to .tv would be lack of development. If everyone is just buying to resell and speculate like that of .eu, than that would kill off .tv.

As far as valuation, hard to say. I have been a big net buyer of hand regs and secondary market .tv domains and am buying mostly for future development not price appreciation.

I think more awareness does drive up prices but if speculators are too greedy, the buyers will look elsewhere.

Hope that helps to address some of your questions.

Good post.

 

[BDM1]

I think the biggest obstacle is the marketing of the tv brand. To be totally honest, I dont see any being done in Asia at all. This is a major market as well as the USA and probably more so actually, due to population and major advances in technology.
Japan, China, Korea, India etc, should be on the top of the marketing list. IMHO.

I also think the .tv people should do away with the channel idea, people dont want to follow the crowd, they want to lead the crowd. I really dont see the channel thing kicking off with those templates and all of the bugs in the system. Not a fan at all of the channel idea. sorry dot TV I actually think it gives the brand a child feel, instead of corporate approach to broadcast marketing.

Lets hope more people start developing, instead of parking, then at least we can promote from the grass roots level..

I have been working on my sites for nearly 9 months now and I hope to be a major promotor of the tv brand once the sites are up.

Once the brand is more known, the prices will refelect that.

 

[alex_d]

Several hurdles in the way at the moment ...

1) More acceptance for the .tv extension. We all know .com is king, blah blah blah - but the .tv domain has an excellent opportunity especially with the way online video and tv is heading. I think it would just take a few of the larger online companies to do something with a .tv, and then things should definately be on a stronger path than they are now.

2) Infrastructure costs - as mentioned in another thread on the forum regarding whether or not users of sites can upload their own videos, etc. I would love to develop some of my .tvs into sites where users can upload, share videos etc. However, at present, the costs involved in storage and more importantly bandwidth, are just too high for me to see how to make a profit on such a site. If prices for storage and bandwidth continue to come down, this will have a great impact on the number of truly interactive .tvs that we will find online.

At present, I cannot justify the cost of developing a truly interactive video site, no matter how badly I want one.

3) Too many parked .tvs, bought purely for resale purposes. OK - I know I am also guilty of this, but the lack of any real development is a worrying factor. The more developed .tv there are on the net, the better for all of us. At the moment, we are in talks with several parties about developing specific .tv sites featuring video of specific areas - hope to have more solid development plans on these by July - August.


Can't think of anything else now, and I think I may have gone on a little too long with this post as it is.


Alex

 

[domainacrobat]

Maybe I am pesimistic, but I only see really good names being worth more. One word generics and high overture two word generics. Thats why I have alot of one word generic names regardless of relevance to television. I think channel domains will become more relevant. I also think the overall price for soso - average names will increase in the short term and then drop in price dramatically due to over saturation. Thus the closet cleaning you speak of SKG. The first 3 months usually see the bulk of sales after a landrush. Although this was not a landrush it had similar effects. IMO the bulk of sales will take place from May 1st to July 1st. Then the quantity of sales will die down only to have many high dollar enduser and high profile domainer sales about one year from now.

 

[equity78]

I take a completely different approach I do not believe in the collective, I never have.
I believe that .tv gives people an opportunity (and that window maybe closing) to acquire quality names in an extension that is very intuitive where those same names were taken in other extensions for years. But I believe after you got the domain/domains its on you and your plan for those domains. I do not believe Local Experts and the plan he has for his .tv domains is affected by mine, or that others who just have their .tv domains parked affect his .tv plan.

Beet.tv is doing fine,MLB.tv is doing fine, several other .tv are doing fine. They came to .tv because it is intuitive and relevant to what they are doing. Not because it was supposed to be the next big thing.

Relaunch? was a word that someone at Demand Media wanted to use to try to promote their efforts. The .tv extension has been available since 96 and marketed as "DOT TV " since 98, because they decided to freeze premium domains and mark a lot of them up and at the same time cherry picking some premium domains does not qualify as a relaunch. .tv domains were propagating and were selling unlike .mobi which did not exist.

Now the next thing people need to determine is "Are 10,000 mini you tubes development?" I mean the Me.tv tools are not bad for a freebie with a domain registration but you need to be able to make your sites unique. The same with the Clip-Search scripts and other You Tube clone scripts. There needs to be more IMO people can already go to You Tube why are they going to your site? You need to give them a reason.

Developing a site takes different skill sets than buying good domains, if the site becomes big then in it becomes a business adding more skill sets needed to maximize your time,effort and money. IMO

 

[mckennaronnie]

I belive that having so many parked .tv's, Youtube clones or me,tv sites could really hold .tv's growth as normal internet users only knowledge of the extension with be of 1000's of sites that look, feel & do the same thing rather than the exciting, new rich media extension we all dream of.

For me .tv has given the chance to own quality domains that will be the basis of completely original websites that i hope will become profitable. I could never of bought such keyword domains in .com & would never of bothered even trying such projects with .info, .net....etc

In short i belive.tv will only grow to its potential is loads more of us develop different sites with varied content & use so users can sample the best this new extension can offer compared to those boring other extensions.

Exciting times i believe but only for those who have a game plan :imho:

 

[meeks]

Haven't been around .TV for a year but have already noticed the landscape changing for the extension. More sales, more offers being received just generally more interest...

.TV has given people a chance to purchase quality domains in a very recognizable and might I say brandable TLD
There's money to be made in both developing and reselling your domains, but I think with the way forward IMO is to develop,

I remember the early days of the internet when I kept hearing that "the internet changes everything"
I think over the next 3-7 years it will totally transform television and in fact media as we know it today....

As the technology becomes available to get high resolution video without using copious amounts of bandwidth and get it at a decent price then television as we know it will be changed forever, its already happening!

.TV is an opportunity, there are a lot of corporations launching their sites using.TV and I see this as a good sign for anyone holding and or developing.

I think the "relaunch" was a help but not a major factor, the last 50 Years or so of people watching their TV sets in their livingrooms and getting used to the 2 letters TV was the best thing that could have happened for all of us investing our time and efforts in .TV

A year from now I see more growth in .TV but I believe that give it 3-7 years and we will be able to look back on today and smile because we saw it coming...

We have to make sure our developments match the extension of course and build great businesses, but with the names I see on here and the names being regged still (TinyTots) for example anything is possible...

 

[RogueWriter]

In many ways, the answer to your questions, and the perspective given to the answers of others must be determined by the duration with which you are planning to carry your own .TV domains, the scope with which you view domain investing.

The last year and a half has been a land grab, a 49ers styled staking of territory where one thinks gold might be found.

I figure on living at least 40 more years, God willing. The domains I have I plan on holding for most of that time, or until I get an offer where I can turn a decent profit. As I get older, more and more of those domains will be developed, either by myself or by my children, heck perhaps even my grandchildren when I have some, as they build an online business.

But, I do not need to have more than 1 or 2 developed sites a year in order to reach my goal, and it would be irriesponsible of me to assume I could develop a couple of dozen .TVs every year: I do not have that much capital and time to do it right, and most assuredly, .TVs will need to be driven by quality, if the name does not generate a sale of it's own accord.

I guess I do not see the urgency in hoping the value will increase drastically over the next year, since, with a few exceptions, I plan on holding onto these domains for decades.

What do you think is the biggest obstacle to the growth of .tv?

Remember that DM has competition: GoDaddy is not going to sit idly by and allow DM to dominate the renewal/registration market, and frankly there is nothing keeping DM from offering these same tools to their .com registrants..... a shot has been fired across GD's bow, how do you think they will respond? Will similar tools for .com pages dilute the value of DM parked .tvs? That answer will depend upon the success that DM has selling the 'community' pitch to college students and teenagers and, to a lesser degree, webmasters that own too many domains to develop them properly.

In the end, we might see this pitch made for other extensions. How many .mobi domainers would like to see premade relevant niche community mobi sites ready for them to park their domains on?

DM just stole out to an early lead: It will be interesting to watch who joins in on the race.

Do you feel your .tv portfolio is worth double what it was before the relaunch of the .tv extension by Demand Media?

I have seen a lot more activity from the beginning of the year, but especially the last couple of weeks.