domain programmer101.com - is this only worth $1

[produced1509]

How much do you think is this worth?

In my personal opinion, this is a great name to run a website around programming skills for the programming community (some huge numbers worldwide) instantly identifies with the keywords 'programmer 101' which roughly translates into a place to learn / discuss programming techniques both for new and experienced programmers.

I listed this name at No Reserve for the Domaining Europe auction currently running at Undeveloped.com .

It currently has only 1 bid at $1 which is a bit surprising to me since I do believe this is a pretty good name and people at Undeveloped.com rejected thousands of names to list only a select few.

Looks like the bidder with $1 will win the auction which i think would be a matter of shame for such a fine name in my opinion.

I personally wanted to build a blog/forum/website around programming techniques on top of this name but had to let it go for the lack of time.

 

[Lox]

There are many forums and sources of information where programmers share their knowledge.

So, to sum up, your domain name has two major components:

Programmer = service, work, person, job
101 = knowledge, book, guide, education

As you can see we came in the situation where the interference become predominant.

These two different words begin to confuse the brain, causing a conflict, forcing you to make a choice = Is this about the service or education, etc.

Like most people, there is a tendency to read the words (meanings) automatically rather than think deeper or imagine the possibilities about the meanings behind the combo.


There are four aspects of human nature:

1. physical
2. emotional
3. social
4. rational

Often, a catchy domain name is all you need to define your brand at the start. For example, the only part that missing in your domain name is a little touch of social; because humans live in groups ( e.g. Programmer101 vs Programmers101 "The Programmers Heaven of Knowledge")


Kind regards

 

[produced1509]

Sorry to say but I do not agree with your viewpoint. It seems like a post specifically made to provide a justification the low number of bids.

There can be many other reasons for low bids - not sufficient traffic, not as many people from the programming industry being aware of the auction, other factors as well - Keep in mind Undeveloped.com is a good and growing but still a very young platform in comparison to other platforms that have been established for years and I was aware of the risks and still decided to list it there.


You're trying to build the case that 'programmer101' is a gramatically incorrect form which is not the case.

Even if you were to discount my opinion on this, do you think a team of professionals , all native english speakers ( part of Epik) , who communicate in English day in and day out would allow a domain with a grammatical error to be listed.

As for your comment 'humans live in groups ' , I think it is not relevant here.

 

[Lox]

You're trying to build the case that 'programmer101' is a gramatically incorrect form which is not the case.

This is just my opinion or view and I don't think there is any error in your point of view. Contrary, since this is a very unique name, I can't understand exactly why your domain name getting such a low number of bids.

My view should not affect your view at all.

Kind regards

 

[produced1509]

Contrary, since this is a very unique name, I can't understand exactly why your domain name getting such a low number of bids.

You are contradicting your first post now where you were trying to justify that the name is grammatically incorrect.

Please add value to appraisals if you really want to provide one.

I wholeheartedly welcome criticism but it should not be just for the sake of increasing the post count or for pretension ( of being help to others).

Anyways, these are my last comments on your opinion since I really don't have much time to debate about useless stuff.

 

[Lox]

9K

 

[produced1509]

9K

Genuine appraisals and criticism welcome from others.

Are programming domains in general less valuable to domainers ? As an end user I would have definitely paid upto low 4 figures for this name if i really wanted to build something on top of this name

Because looking at the prices of other names on auction at Undeveloped, it seems to be more of Domain Investors bidding there at the moment.

Over two weeks of auction already past and last couple of days remaining, I really didn't bother looking much into what was going on until day before yesterday.

 

[dotnyc]

Valuing domains is not my expertise, but programming is.

Cons: It is a long name and sounds web 1.0 (aka. not cool), the word programmer has also fallen out of favor over the preferred "developer".
Pros: very clear what the site is, fundamental resource for programmers. Easy to remember.

I would not want to build a brand on something that does not sound cool, so if it were mine I'd be aiming to flip the domain here just like you are, but I would not build anything on it. It is also vague, most programming sites focus on a single language; to be a valuable resource the site built on it would need to be language agnostic which is a tall-order and difficult to build a community that way (i.e. easy to find all the Node.js advocates, but all programmers is too broad.)

Nobody seeking to learn python would be searching google for "programmer", but rather at best "programming python"

 

[produced1509]

In my personal opinion programmer is the most appropriate word for this because a developer could be a 'real estate developer' or anything else but a programmer is a programmer is a programmer (the word programmer implies no other meaning except computer / machine programming) .

Ask any lay person around you what they make out from the word developer and then the word programmer.

I agree with you that it is not about a specific programming language and this is exactly how I meant it to be.

What about the concepts of

Object Oriented Programming
Database / Sql
Code Security / Writing secure code
Software Patterns


All these concepts are independent of any programming language. These concepts apply to almost all modern programming languages.

Any programmer who does not grasp or adhere to the concepts above , regardless of the programming language will produce bad code prone to hacking, that will break at various points(spaghetti code) and inefficient / unproductive / waste of time because it cannot be reused and in general be a maintenance mess.

Any programmer worth his salt would not be considered a competent / good programmer unless he has an understanding of the concepts above.

Regardless of the programming languages, all programmers need to understand the art of producing beautiful / efficient / secure code that adheres to Good Programming Principles.

Thank you for your input though.

 

[slader23]

The most optimal name would be programming 101. With that said it's important to not fall in love with domains you're looking to sell. Emotional attachment will bias your judgement and lead you into making avoidable mistakes. This name is very good and IMHO it's fine grammatically. The lack of bidding action you are experiencing is a bi-product of your names perceived liquidity. It has more to do with how easily other domainers think they can move it than the actual end user potential of the name.

It's a mid x,xxx to low xx,xxx name could be I could see it as a Udemy/CodeAcademy/GitHub competitor depending on the focus of the end user who buys it.

Best of luck

 

[produced1509]

The most optimal name would be programming 101. With that said it's important to not fall in love with domains you're looking to sell. Emotional attachment will bias your judgement and lead you into making avoidable mistakes. This name is very good and IMHO it's fine grammatically. The lack of bidding action you are experiencing is a bi-product of your names perceived liquidity. It has more to do with how easily other domainers think they can move it than the actual end user potential of the name.

It's a mid x,xxx to low xx,xxx name could be I could see it as a Udemy/CodeAcademy/GitHub competitor depending on the focus of the end user who buys it.

Best of luck

This is by far the best response / appraisal that has some logic and talks sense.

And I'm not biased because of any emotional attachment, my responses so far might indicate bias but it is not the case as they are only in response to people who have no clue what they are talking about.

I completely agree with you programming101 is the most optimal name , this one is the next best that you can get.

My own conclusion for the lack of bidding is if i have to provide an example - a diamond's worth is known only to those who understands it's true value.

Perhaps there are no end user bidders from the programming industry who would understand this name's worth.

Just because it isn't visible to the naked eye, most domainers wouldn't know that top programming sites on the internet generate millions of dollars of revenue.

Perhaps the only bidder who bid $1 has the understanding what he could potentially sell this name for

 

[produced1509]

well it just received another bid and with only around 4 hours remaining looks like the domain would sell for the Great Grand Price of $11