domain Powereurope.com value ?

[Domain trust]

Hello, everyone
powereurope.com . how much this domain worth ?
Please help me to appraisal this domain.
Thanks

 

[Mike Goodman]

Start by asking who may buy it? Then, for what purpose would they buy it? If you have a good answer for each you have the beginnings of a business case.

Perhaps an electrical, gas or natural resources power business? Or do we look to other types of power, such as political power or social influence? Maybe you can come up with more ideas yourself.

Why would they buy it? How would it help them? Then you begin to have a basis for value. If it were mine, I'd be asking for offers and not considering any below, say, $15-20k. In reality I'd hang on until something in the $25-35k range materialised.

But you may be able to make a case for more and target prospects accordingly. Or you may need to sell quickly, in which case you may only achieve a fraction of those estimates.

 

[bookname]

powerusa.com sold $4500 , your name should be around that range for end user price.

 

[Mike Goodman]

powerusa.com sold $4500 , your name should be around that range for end user price.

I disagree. Why did the USA version sell for $4,500? Where did you get the idea the sale was to an end user? This is where the commonly touted idea of pricing domains based on recorded sales falls flat on its face.

It sold at that price because the seller accepted a low offer. I doubt their reasons had much to do with the value of the domain. More likely their own cash flow or lack of marketing nous as the determining factor. Or it may have been that the seller found recorded sales of "similar" names around that price. There is no reason to suggest the OP should do likewise.

 

[bookname]

I disagree. Why did the USA version sell for $4,500? It did so because the seller accepted a low offer. I doubt their reasons had much to do with the value of the domain. More likely their own cash flow as the determining factor. There is no reason to suggest the OP should do likewise.

I appreciate your opinion, I just wanted to let the OP know that PowerUSA.com sold around that price, He at least now know where the price he want to start from. My apologize that I suppose not to advise him or giving him the idea on how much he need to sell the name, in the end, its all depend on the buyer / end user, nobody can appraise your name except the buyer.

 

[Mike Goodman]

No apologies needed. That's where healthy discussion comes from.

To be honest, I've been looking for an opportunity to challenge the very flaccid idea that we should value our names based upon what people have done in the past, often at undervalued prices, not knowing whether sales were to domainers, collectors or end users and absolutely no way of knowing why they were sold at the price they were. It is very poor advice yet it appears to have passed into domainer folklore.

So thank you for that opportunity.

 

[bookname]

No apologies needed. That's where healthy discussion comes from.

To be honest, I've been looking for an opportunity to challenge the very flaccid idea that we should value our names based upon what people have done in the past, often at undervalued prices, not knowing whether sales were to domainers, collectors or end users and absolutely no way of knowing why they were sold at the price they were. It is very poor advice yet it appears to have passed into domainer folklore.

So thank you for that opportunity.

Your opportunity is coming ! and most of us will agree with you as its very difficult to get best name at normal price for domain investor like us nowadays especially in auction.

 

[james haw]

To be honest, I've been looking for an opportunity to challenge the very flaccid idea that we should value our names based upon what people have done in the past

Where did you get the idea the sale was to an end user?...It sold at that price because the seller accepted a low offer...More likely their own cash flow or lack of marketing nous as the determining factor.

You question bookname's suggestion at a price, which was based on a previous sales figure of a similar name, but then you speculate entirely at the personal intent of the seller of that name stating why they sold at a specific price - that they had money issues or lack of experience - something you couldn't possibly know.

Maybe the seller of powerusa.com already listed it for years and got no offers or traffic at all, then suddenly a 4 figure offer, which is a good price if nothing came previously.



If the OP got an offer for $5k in the next few months, are you saying they shouldn't take it? That would be a quick flip and a phenomenal profit in a short time period. $5K is still a lot of money, and a massive return. Leaving money on the table is a bad thing, but equally not selling for a good price and then never selling as a result is leaving all of the money on the table!

I do see your point about previous sales and some gaps in the data etc, and I don't disagree that a sale doesn't necessarily mean anything for similar domains, as there having been a buyer of one domain doesn't mean there's another buyer for a similar domain. But as domain evaluation is mostly speculation and guess work, historical sales data shows us "something". It's not 100% accurate or indicative of what a domain name is currently worth, but among other data analysis it's just something we have to try to cut through the 100% speculation and guesswork.



I'm not saying this name is not worth 5 figures, I'm saying that simply stating this as an educated and confident fact is not a good evaluation. I think it could get 5 figures too, but I think it may be a long haul and/or luck.

It's up to you Domain Trust if your situation allows holding this for years, or if you'd want to take 4 figures for a reasonable flip and good profit, if such an offer comes along. Again, like with all domains, you could get a 5 figure offer, or hold it for 5+ years and only get 4 figures offers or none at all.

List it up on the marketplaces and see what traffic and offers you get. It's a good name and if someone is looking for such a name they should find it based on keywords. I'd hold it for a number of years, what I'd take in the end entirely depends on the offers and traffic I'd received over the hold period.
Good luck

 

[Mike Goodman]

@james haw everything you've said underlines my own view. Of course it's all opinion and speculation. Which is one of several reasons why it is bad advice to tie domain name asking prices, if it is sensible to have asking prices at all, to previous sales. Of course it is entirely within the gift of the seller to decide at which price they will sell, when they will sell and under what circumstances. We have not one iota of disagreement there.

About the only thing you've said that I don't necessarily agree with is that you have assumed a passive sale. You have no more idea than I do whether the OP intends to list this domain and wait, or to reach out to sell it directly.

One final point: this domain name ticks almost all the boxes: short, easy to spell, easy to remember, passes the radio test, just 2 words. It even gets somewhere with Schwarz's "not easy to forget" filter. It is relevant to more than one very expensive capital intensive and highly competitive industry with highly skilled therefore expensive labour costs.

Downside? 4 syllables may be creeping towards the high side. Not much of a handicap IMO.

Now, we all see lots of sellers letting go of such names for nuts. But I think it would be nuts to advise the OP to follow such practice.

The seller has asked for opinions. Those are mine. Without going into a more detailed exercise as I simply don't have the time right now, I'm happy with the rough estimates given earlier.

 

[Domain trust]

Thanks a lot for advice.

I agree with you. Some day I got offer for x-love.com for 1k and I decided to sell it for 1500$. By the way ,i list domain for 1500$ and buyer were interesting to buy domain . I told them I want to sell this domain for 1500$ and they didn’t accept my offer. After 3 months I decided to sell it for 1k to renew some of domains so I contacted with buyer to sell domain for them. They decided not to buy domain . By the end, I lost this buyer. I got other offer for dreamexchange.com for 5k but I decided not to sell it for this price because I am thinking this domain worth 20k and now I am happy to not sell this domain. Good luck for everybody and thanks.