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Hello everyone .. this thread has mostly to do with my Daily Curated List of Expiring Domains Going to Auction and List of $5 Closeouts both that I share right here at NamePros! For your feedback, you can post here .. or send me a private message if you prefer! :)


Part 1 - Naming Advice for my Lists

Essentially I'm going to be splitting off my lists/blog type stuff from my actual domain sales (portfolio). I'm still going to use Ategy here and as an umbrella brand. I already own all the domains in question, so price/ownership isn't an issue. I've managed to narrow my top picks for my blog/lists down to the following. Please let me know your 1 or 2 favourite .. and most importantly .. Why you feel that way.
  • NameCult.com
  • BrandSonar.com
  • BrandBuffs.com
- I like BrandBuffs .. but am just a little afraid about the plural and losing traffic to the singular.
- BrandSonar is good in that my lists are helping people search/find names like radar/sonar.
- I think NameCult is my favorite because most of us domainers are entranced/addicted like being a member of a cult! lol


Part 2 - Naming Advice for my Marketplace

I'm almost 100% committed for this. I actually have a lot of alternatives in my portfolio ... but I'm now decided on a prefix (keeping it private for now so using _____). I own 2 versions with the same prefix .. I'm debating between:
  • _____Domains.com
  • _____Names.com
Even though ______Domains.com is longer, I think it's a bit more targeted and just seems more professional as it's a little more exact.


Thanks to everyone in advance for your feedback .. again .. feel free to message me in private if you prefer! :)
 
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To me viral is good but sounds like a throwaway item - after the viral surge it gets forgotten.

Actually .. it's more Viral in terms of Viral Marketing / Growth .. to be honest .. it's going to be very hard to find a better keyword combo for selling domains when people spending 4 figures and above on domains are usually specifically looking to grow big as quickly as possible .. essentially to go "viral"! ;)

I think Viral... is a great combination.
NameBrands (dot org) is a very strong name apart from it being a dot org.

Yeah .. for Viral_____.com I own both "Domains" and "Names" .. and VERY happy about that fact! :)

I agree with NameBrands // dot // org .. lol .. now you're making me rethink! :-/
Plus the fact I'm not actually selling anything directly makes the use of .org even more legit! lol
I feel it certainly is more valuable than the other 3 I was considering for the lists .. so I suppose one reason for not using it is potential resell .. great name for a Domain Sherpa type of information site.
 
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I agree with NameBrands // dot // org .. lol .. now you're making me rethink! :-/ Plus the fact I'm not actually selling anything directly makes the use of .org even more legit! lol I feel it certainly is more valuable than the other 3 I was considering for the lists .. so I suppose one reason for not using it is potential resell .. great name for a Domain Sherpa type of information site.

I think for a non-commercial site it would probably work pretty well. But you will always be compared to the .com. Which is not developed. So that's an additional plus. It's much better that it isn't developed.
 
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1. Marketplace domain:
FYI .. the marketplace prefix in question is "Viral" (I just didn't want the full names of both my potential brands to be in one discussion) as obviously I don't want my eventual potential retail clients to instead go buy $xx domains on auction instead of $xxxx on my marketplace! lol .. (Although I guess both will find their way into my signature eventually .. lol)



I'm actually going to use both as market places but will only use one "officially" (business cards, linkedin, etc) .. the other (and many of my others) will be mainly testing and alternate marketplaces (adult/weed/etc). I was pretty set on using Viral // Domains .. mostly asking feedback because I had already started the thread for my other name. Was also curious if another who has used one or the other regretted their choice for a particular reason I might have overlooked.


lol .. I'm actually the opposite .. unless you're going to make a huge spend on marketing .. then I think having a domain where people know what they will find when they get there is a pretty big advantage. We all know purely on content Google doesn't care .. but at the same time .. google also measures click-throughs .. and I know for me personally if I was looking to buy a domain and I saw a made up brandable in #3 search result and "Viral // Domains" in the 4th place, I'd definitely go to Viral // Domains. Obviously it totally depends on the keywords .. Viral is really an amazing prefix in context and actually turns it into a keyword domain .. and people most definitely want to buy a domain that will make their business go viral. [Random Animal]+Domains on the other hand .. always cool and memorable .. but still a significant notch below .. then get to more obscure prefixes, and I could agree with you that a good short punchy unrelated brandable could possibly be better depending on the names in question.


2. Auction lists domain:

Yeah .. I agree .. lol .. but I'm not at all interested in spending lots when I already have decent options. This really isn't some huge brand .. in fact I only want it to be domainers who ever find it .. my main marketing focus will be on my marketplace.


I thought about doing that .. but the why is more important for me to make my choice. My main issue with using "brand" for my lists is exactly what @hookbox mentioned in that not all the names on my daily lists are actually brands .. there are keywords in there as well that aren't necessarily brands .. although I'm thinking that isn't really all that important (since it's only domainers and all they'll care about is the actual list and not what it's called) .. but in the same way that since domains have nothing to do with religion that using cult isn't the end of the world either. But ironically the only reason I prefer NameCult is for what @D Haynes said in that it's short clear and punchy. Of all of them I think it's probably the one you'd remember most .. most importantly .. it makes me laugh! :)

I have A LOT of brand/name/domain type domains .. but the 3 I mentioned are the ones that felt more like a good fun name for domainers looking for names. I have 2 super amazing .org's that I was considering as well .. but not sure how I'd feel with a site geared to domainers using a .org .. lol. FYI .. the names are Name// Brands // dot // org and Brand // Power // dot // org. NameBrands is obviously super amazing and still strong left of dot despite being org .. really hesitated adding that one to the list above. Then Brand // Power does have a pretty big company behind it that sells a wide range of products .. I'm not so much concerned about trademark issues as it wouldn't be the same thing .. but the way they market quite vaguely pretending to be "information/news" is a little confusing/unethical, so while it's a fantastic name, I'm still a little hesitant.

I do have better names .. but my target audience is essentially the domainer community .. I'll never be running national ad campaigns or anything like that. I actually think both NameCult and BrandSonar are more than good enough .. plus they're both meaningful to actual purpose of the site .. Sonar = because I go out "searching" for the best names at auction each day to share .. and I actually really like cult in this context because most of us are addicted to domains .. lol .. or at least the people who will use my lists the most are at least a bit!

At the end of the day .. it's like most lists .. domainers are going to come check it out via forums / discussions / news / etc .. whether it's namecult or brandsonar .. the likelyhood of people returning will be 95% due to content .. 5% if they remember the name .. and honestly .. both are memorable enough .. although I think namecult is just a touch catchier .. more importantly .. it's 20% shorter left of dot .. lol .. in this thread I think BrandSonar is favoured a bit .. but outside of this thread it's namecult .. again though .. it isn't really about a vote .. I'm looking for reasoning to use in help making me decide which is best to use as my "lists" brand. Or maybe I'll use one for my auctions list and one for my closeout list! ok .. to be clear .. that's not going to happen! lol

Big thanks to all of you for your opinions and feedback. The fact there was no clear choice for the lists ironically actually is a help in that there was no significant reasons good or bad that I didn't think of! :)
I don't like Viral Domains.
 
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Alternatively, you can add prefix or suffix like:

DN
Moniker

as well!

(I'm not sure if Moniker has TM, but it is a dictionary word, which is a synonym of name)
 
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Amongst those namecult is short and memorable and little bit suitable. Imo, requires more choice.
 
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So are you going to sell only viral names/domains on your marketplace or regular brands too? The name itself is limiting what you can offer. Most businesses are not looking for a viral name.

for the first question, both NameCult and BrandSonar look fine.
 
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When I see the word Viral it makes me think of its definition which is an image, video, advertisement that is circulated rapidly on the internet. The domains he would be selling have nothing to do with going Viral.
 
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Thanks again to all for the feedback! :)

I think you guys might be over thinking the viral thing (which ironically is a problem I find myself facing waaaay too often and actually why I started this discussion in the first place .. lol) .. in marketing being Viral is essentially the holy grail these days. Viral Domains implies you'll be getting tons of traffic because people will talk about your cool name (domain). Much like how "Amazing Domains" might have domains that aren't as amazing as others .. lol .. it's more about impression/image than anything else. The fact some technically might not geared towards viralness isn't the end of the world as the overall impression is that by going to "Viral Domains" you will find good domains that will help your business grow. Not the sexiest of taglines .. but I don't think there is a single business coming online that doesn't want to grow in some way. And not just a want in most cases .. but an actual priority.

As I said .. I do have a very large number of alternate ___Domains ___Names, Name____, ____Brands, ___Branding domains to split off some not entirely appropriate for a generic marketplace (adult/weed domains). Domains like "Platinum // Branding", "Ion // Brands", "Headline // Domains", "Name // Smile" and many more .. all in com. I will eventually be using some of those in some capacity as well most likely.

My target market are people who are going to be both able and willing to spend a few thousand dollars on a domain .. for the most part 99+% of that audience will know and appreciate my intended meaning of "viral" .. I'm really not worried about that at all. Most importantly if I meet some random person and I tell them I own "Viral Domains // dot // com" they will instantly know what my site is about and they will remember it as well as have no issues finding/spelling it .. all those facts combined are ironically in turn the holy grail for the name of an online marketplace .. lol. My real question for my marketplace domain was more if people had feedback on using _Domains vs _ Names since I do own both. I was favouring Domains from the start .. and based on the feedback here and off the thread it seems fairly clear that despite being 2 characters longer, that Domains is by far the clearer descriptor.


Alternatively, you can add prefix or suffix like:
DN
Moniker
as well! (I'm not sure if Moniker has TM, but it is a dictionary word, which is a synonym of name)

Not sure if you were talking about for my lists or my market place. I actually really don't like "moniker" since it is not a word used in day to day English. DN is fine for a domainer specific audience like for my lists .. but I do think "Name_" / "_Brands" are better pre/suffixes .. even more so considering I already own the domains in question .. lol .. for my lists both NameCult and BrandSonar are more than good enough for what I'm doing .. it really is more about the actual content than it is marketing .. as domainers .. if you want to use my lists, neither name is so bad that it will stop you from coming and checking it out .. and more importantly .. neither will stop you from returning .. of the 2 I think NameCult is just slightly more memorable (but not enough that I didn't want to seek feedback here and elsewhere first) For the most part I think my largest audience will continue to be right here in the thread at NamePros .. NP is a great audience and I really don't intend to stop sharing my daily lists here.

The biggest reason I'm even making a site/blog is because of posting limitations here. Ideally I'd like to update my thread a couple times a day .. once for my closeouts and then again for the auctions (I am not allowed to have 2 threads open at the same time in that section .. as that would clearly be the ideal solution) .. If I update twice a day now, the updates need to be at least 12 hours apart or else people following the thread will not be notified. I understand the need for the rule as it helps in 99% of cases .. but my case is unique in that I actually do have genuine need to post twice a day, and sometimes just a couple of hours apart. I also sometimes rush to post my lists and make errors/typos .. but if I don't find those typos within 30 minutes of posting they are no longer editable. So I think my plan is to post my $5 closeout lists as early as possible the night before .. and then post the auction list at some point in the morning ... then a bit later post my usual combined post here at NamePros! :)
 
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out of the 3 names
I like namecult best

I am not a native speaker
personally I have no negative feelings about it
 
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1) I liked the "Sonar" idea because it makes me think that domain names are all about what you HEAR. But not too crazy about the combination BrandSonar. "CULT" was my least favorite as it gives me feelings of something Dark / Small Following / Non-Mainstream Thinking (which can be a good thing depending on what the topic is).

2) __Names vs __Domains - I could go with either, but it would really depend on the first word.

Regards,
DN
 
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I would go with namecult.
The other names are just not looking good to pronounce.
 
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I like NameCult quite a bit. I don't see the negative association that some others are seeing... I think that if something has a "cult" following, it's looked upon as being a pretty positive thing.

_Domains or _Names? I think both are equally acceptable. I would try to have both so that you don't lose traffic. I agree with you that _Domains is more targeted. And is what I would use, given this choice.

This is exactly what I was thinking. ______Names is my preferred choice for the name of the site, but make sure that ____Domains redirects to it.
 
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Keep in mind, unfortunately always, people (individually) are very quirky and your market is all the people of the world = that's allot of strangeness to consider when thinking of a "universal" attractive and confidence inspiring name.

Now, personally I like NameCult, but I would get beat up in a marketing meeting over the term cult - as it would be precieved as a possible negative. But, more so, there will be a subset of buyers that will associate it negativly and click the next link. Oh, the internet and the never ending scams hahaha.

Sorry if that seem like I'm being a downer - I'm not, just sharing what I have experienced.

Thanks,
 
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Use BrandSonar and BrandBuffs (with extra acquisition of BrandBuff) as the recruitments pads from where visitors will be catapulted, by a forward, to NameCult after sufficient indoctrination in the domain name ideology.

Namelancer being my first, middle and last name, my choice is obviously siding with NameCult.com
 
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Cult is usually attached with negative things. I can remember those jungle cult etc. from Phantom comics. Please give more choice to choose. Otherwise I will again choose namecult.
 
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BrandSonar
 
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I would consider other similar names.

For me...it's all about memorability.

Here are a couple close to what you posted that are available for hand reg...

DomainsBuff.com
BuffName.com

It will be a matter of your marketing your site....the name will make it easier for people to return.

Maybe something original like 199Names.com, 299Names....something that people REMEMBER. :)
 
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Or nameclap.com is also available for hand reg.
 
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namecult
 
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