domain Guys.Live, Chicks.Live

[Brands.International]

Guys.Live & Chicks.Live - how would you value these 2 domains?
Thank you.

 

[RJ]

Great looking new gTLDs. What are the renewal fees?

 

[atinc]

Big value if you develop them.

 

[Brands.International]

They are for standard renewals, I guess around 20-25 USD/ year

 

[atinc]

Guys.Live & Chicks.Live - how would you value these 2 domains?
Thank you.

Are you considering selling or developing?

 

[Brands.International]

Are you considering selling or developing?

I am not decided yet 100%, but probably I will be selling them

 

[RJ]

They are for standard renewals, I guess around 20-25 USD/ year

Awesome!

Guys.Live - GREAT name. I could see going for ~$2-3k today to the right buyer, and probably more if you do a long term holding

Chicks.Live - the term "chicks" sounds a little outdated and non-pc to me. ~$500

 

[atinc]

I am not decided yet 100%, but probably I will be selling them

Well you can lease too. Hold the names they are really nice.
What is the price you ask for chicks.live?

 

[Brands.International]

Awesome!

Guys.Live - GREAT name. I could see going for ~$2-3k today to the right buyer, and probably more if you do a long term holding

Chicks.Live - the term "chicks" sounds a little outdated and non-pc to me. ~$500

Thanks a lot @RJ, much appreciated

 

[Brands.International]

Well you can lease too. Hold the names they are really nice.
What is the price you ask for chicks.live?

Thanks a lot. Yes, that is my plan too. Actually, I would prefer lease them instead of selling them, as I too think it is better for me to wait for right end user and low renewals make it possible to hold them.
If you would like to discuss price details just shoot me a PM, as I am curious for appraisals and do not want to affect them

 

[coco77]

I really like them. Especially since the cam industry has been and will continue to grow.

Good luck!

 

[Brands.International]

Thanks a lot @coco77
The large live cam operator would be ideal end user for them imo. This is the reason I am not really thinking of developing them, as obviously I do not have that much cams available

 

[coco77]

Thanks a lot @coco77
The large live cam operator would be ideal end user for them imo. This is the reason I am not really thinking of developing them, as obviously I do not have that much cams available

LMAO ^^^

 

[RBCDNs]

Awesome names. Hold on to them and consider leasing!

 

[Casey L]

There are thousands and thousands of live cam sites, and a quick google search shows that they don't really care what their domain name is, outside of the bigger ones like cams.com, jasmin.com, or sexier.com. I don't understand waiting for one of these to buy it, because usually companies spend a lot of money to improve their own domain name, it doesn't make sense for them to buy something that neither improves their current domain name or is a brand protection purchase

 

[Brands.International]

There are thousands and thousands of live cam sites, and a quick google search shows that they don't really care what their domain name is, outside of the bigger ones like cams.com, jasmin.com, or sexier.com. I don't understand waiting for one of these to buy it, because usually companies spend a lot of money to improve their own domain name, it doesn't make sense for them to buy something that neither improves their current domain name or is a brand protection purchase

Thousands and thousands live cam sites, all happily living in a competition, and you do not understand why any of them would like to buy category killer new gTLD ..they are all happy with .com, no matter how bad their names are - that really makes perfect sense

 

[Kate]

But your names are adult to me. Adult domains are very hard to sell, adult webmasters usually want .com, maybe .net and they buy names that have traffic. They dislike .xxx BTW. I don't think they are fond of other extensions. In the adult business, domain names are routinely treated like throwaway items.
Do you see a lot of adult domain sales being reported ? Especially in new extensions ? What makes you think there are buyers for these names ?
Reported sales for .live: 5 sales. Indeed, there are two adult ones - both registry sales (if they are real).

Domain Price Date Venue
diretta.live 2,022 USD 2017-02-11 Sedo
z.live 3,200 USD 2016-10-02 NameJet
sex.live 160,000 USD 2016-08-07 Rightside
porn.live 120,000 USD 2016-08-07 Rightside
casino.live 5,000 USD 2016-02-18 Sedo

But there are other extensions available for the same purpose, for example .cam.
I see that you registered chicks.cam but guys.cam is unregistered. Presumably because the regfee is $1800.

 

[Brands.International]

But your names are adult to me. Adult domains are very hard to sell, adult webmasters usually want .com, maybe .net and they buy names that have traffic. They dislike .xxx BTW. I don't think they are fond of other extensions. In the adult business, domain names are routinely treated like throwaway items.
Do you see a lot of adult domain sales being reported ? Especially in new extensions ? What makes you think there are buyers for these names ?
Reported sales for .live: 5 sales. Indeed, there are two adult ones - both registry sales (if they are real).

Domain Price Date Venue
diretta.live 2,022 USD 2017-02-11 Sedo
z.live 3,200 USD 2016-10-02 NameJet
sex.live 160,000 USD 2016-08-07 Rightside
porn.live 120,000 USD 2016-08-07 Rightside
casino.live 5,000 USD 2016-02-18 Sedo

But there are other extensions available for the same purpose, for example .cam.
I see that you registered chicks.cam but guys.cam is unregistered. Presumably because the regfee is $1800.

Why do you think we shoud see lot of sales on extension which is just 2 years old? You also really feel semantic value of guys.live is the same as guys.cam?
I understand from your post that you say that most operators use .com do far (granted, .com is here 30 years already). And it is nice that you mentioned 2 large registry sales, although you did not forget to add 'if they are real'. Obviously you do not like new gTLDs, you already posted hundreds of posts agains them in every possible thread, everybody can see that. I have nothing against it - but this is appraisal thread - I honestly do not believe that you gave at least 1 good appraisal to ANY new gTL..if I am not right, please post the link here, I am very curious.

 

[Kate]

Why do you think we shoud see lot of sales on extension which is just 2 years old?

Not saying a 'lot of sales' necessarily, but more than just five.

And like I said, the market for adult domains is difficult enough even for .com domains. You're raising the level of difficulty further.

You also really feel semantic value of guys.live is the same as guys.cam?

I could be wrong, but I'm only saying this could be one possible alternative. Potential buyers will look at suitable alternatives before they buy a domain from somebody.
I immediately thought of .cam as a possible substitute/competitor.

I honestly do not believe that you gave at least 1 good appraisal to ANY new gTL..if I am not right, please post the link here, I am very curious.

My appraisals are quite conservative, even for .com domains.
The problem is that new extensions are very illiquid, and to appraise them realistically we would need a sufficient history and sample of sales. How can you appraise a name in a TLD that has 5 reported sales ? And little history ? 2 years you said.
Of course I could appraise any name at 5K for example but it's completely theoretical. If the likelihood of a sale to an end user is 0.00001%, then what you have is not a true, liquid asset but a lottery ticket.
In my opinion it's more gambling than investment.

This is not a rebuttal, I am simply developing my line of thinking, thinking out loud.

 

[Brands.International]

Not saying a 'lot of sales' necessarily, but more than just five.

And like I said, the market for adult domains is difficult enough even for .com domains. You're raising the level of difficulty further.


I could be wrong, but I'm only saying this could be one possible alternative. Potential buyers will look at suitable alternatives before they buy a domain from somebody.
I immediately thought of .cam as a possible substitute/competitor.


My appraisals are quite conservative, even for .com domains.
The problem is that new extensions are very illiquid, and to appraise them realistically we would need a sufficient history and sample of sales. How can you appraise a name in a TLD that has 5 reported sales ? And little history ? 2 years you said.
Of course I could appraise any name at 5K for example but it's completely theoretical. If the likelihood of a sale to an end user is 0.00001%, then what you have is not a true, liquid asset but a lottery ticket.
In my opinion it's more gambling than investment.

This is not a rebuttal, I am simply developing my line of thinking, thinking out loud.

It is ok, I am fine with it But basically you are saying that we can not appraise new gTLDs, because there are not yet enough recorded sales in sources like namebio (which is true, as some of the extensions are very young).

Well I think we need to be then more intuitive in our appraisals. We might be wrong or right, we will see in few years.

As per gambling versus investment statement, I am sure no one will seriously tell that holding name like Guys.Live with standard renewal is gambling. If you buy 1000 of NNNNNN.bet names because you read somewhere that Chinese market is CRAZY for numeric chips, this is gambling