.mobi Good news for mobile, nothing good for Mobi

[karamba]

CNN is set to re-launch its CNN mobile service this week, and has secured car company Lexus as its first advertiser on the platform.

CNN Mobile is re-launching as the news network's first direct-to-consumer WAP service, and will feature a searchable 14-day news archive with over 2,000 stories, as well as a news SMS alert service covering categories like business, weather, entertainment and lifestyle.

The service, which first launched in 1999, will be available in...

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... Europe, the Middle East, Africa and Latin America to all handsets by entering cnnmobile.com.

Lexus will have banner adverts on the mobile site for its Hybrid vehicle at launch and also have a pre and post roll advertising on the service's 'World News Now' two minute video update, which will be available to all 3G users of CNN Mobile. The advertising deal, which was developed by media agency Zed, will run for the first month of the new service.

I will also add that speech is about cnnmobile.com
Not cnn.mobi

 

[seanboy]

You've got alot of nerve to accuse some of the people here of being cultists. I have .mobi domains, and I have my arguments for and against .mobi, and I'm not about to let you insult me or anyone else here of being a "cultist." You can have your opinions on .mobi or any other extention, but watch what you say and what you accuse people of. No one here is forcing poison down anyone's throat, and I'm not going to let you tarnish my or anyone else's rep with such an insult. I don't care how long you've been domaining or how many sales you've had, keep your pathetic name-calling to yourself.

 

[labrocca]

You've got alot of nerve to accuse some of the people here of being cultists. I have .mobi domains, and I have my arguments for and against .mobi, and I'm not about to let you insult me or anyone else here of being a "cultist." You can have your opinions on .mobi or any other extention, but watch what you say and what you accuse people of. No one here is forcing poison down anyone's throat, and I'm not going to let you tarnish my or anyone else rep with such an insult. I don't care how long you've been domaining or how many sales you've had, keep your pathetic name-calling to yourself.

ooo....scary...

Maybe you should brush up on your meaning of the word cult and how I have used it in proper context.

http://www.answers.com/cult?nafid=3

An exclusive group of persons sharing an esoteric, usually artistic or intellectual interest.

Seems to fit perfectly to SOME of the people here. I didn't name call anyone btw and I do have a whole lot of nerve..enough to stand up and speak my mind. If you don't like my posts...add me to your ignore list. My message seems to be ignored my some anyway.

 

[-db-]

Today's interesting fact...

Humans share 98-99 percent of DNA with chimpanzees.

:gl:

 

[scandiman]

Labrocca, my breathing is fine, thanks for caring.

If you check with post #2 of this thread, you'll see I was responding to the thread title, "Good news for mobile, NOTHING good for mobi" (emphasis added). If that is a source of confusion here then I apologize.

You accuse me of SPIN while I am guilty of looking at the bigger picture. Compelling mobile content in general is very important to grow the numbers of mobile web users, which by the way is the primary user base of .mobi. As a result I am thankful that CNN is investing in mobile content, it can only contribute to the user base of .mobi. Similarly, I am sure the carriers trying to sell more mobile internet plans are thrilled to see additional content being made available.

Never here have I said the mobile internet means .mobi. In fact I reluctantly use the terms mobile internet or mobile web since these terms are used in different ways. Carriers use the terms in reference to wireless connectivity since for them it is a revenue stream, be it a handheld or a 17" laptop. Screen size is irrelevant to wireless connectivity. As a web developer though, the focus is on providing content that is usable to small screened devices, and/or providing content that takes into account the physical location of the user. Completely different meanings and it is sometimes difficult to know which one someone is referring to. Regardless, .mobi does not equal any of these. It is a branding opportunity for sites with content that is friendly to small screened devices. That is what I have repeatedly said in many NP threads.

 

[labrocca]

Humans share 98-99 percent of DNA with chimpanzees.

:gl:

Speaking of which....when are we gonna have .dna? lol

And Scandiman...it's all good. I just saw this thread going way off from it's intention of discussion. The skeptics vs the cultists (I am gonna use this word more often now) can easily become heated.

 

[scandiman]

And Scandiman...it's all good. I just saw this thread going way off from it's intention of discussion. The skeptics vs the cultists (I am gonna use this word more often now) can easily become heated.

OK, but don't complain when I come up with a term equally abrasive to the skeptics.

 

[seanboy]

The point that i was trying to make is that i'm sure some people don't want to be called that. My apologies if you took anything I said as some sort of threat. I'll admit that some people go overboard here, but using the word "cult" just has a negative connotation to it. But whatever, its over...

On to the original topic..

I'm not too concerned with CNN. No one knows what they're really up to yet. They were using CNNmoney.mobi for awhile and even mention it on one of their sites:

http://money.cnn.com/services/mobile/
(middle of the page)

The link to cnnmoney.mobi doesn't seem to be working now, so maybe they're done with it. We'll see.

I have some decent one-word names and a few LLL's, so i'm not too worried about my investment. I didn't spend thousands on dot mobi like some of the others here. A few of my names are in development, and one of them is getting a little traffic already.

I will say that, being involved in the mobile web for over 2 years now, that I've seen the number of mobile web sites double over the past year, and .mobi is definitley part of the reason for that. I think mtld has been successful in helping to increase the awreness of the mobile web. Whether or not .mobi succeeds is yet to be seen.

 

[whitebark]

Humans share 98-99 percent of DNA with chimpanzees.

:gl:

This was the most intelligent, clear and concise post of the lot - and point well made.


But be careful we could have a creationist vs evolutionist thread begin in place of you hate .mobi vs no I don't.

 

[labrocca]

Creationism is to mobi as Evolution is to .com There I did it!

The link to cnnmoney.mobi doesn't seem to be working now, so maybe they're done with it. We'll see.

WOW...now that's bad news. I bet traffic was abysmal and they pulled the plug. How can this news be thought of as anything but bad news. Does it overall effect mobi in such a was that it's ruined..no of course not. But it's a sign. It's something that says to me...a major organization that deals primarily in information has failed to benefit from mobi and has decided to drop it in favor of the well known .com.

OK, but don't complain when I come up with a term equally abrasive to the skeptics.

You can call me what you want as long as it's honest.

I pretty much heard them all though...mobi-basher, mobi-hater...whatever. If you like you can call me part of the CNO Cult...btw.. cnocult.com is available.

 

[mjnels]

WOW...now that's bad news. I bet traffic was abysmal and they pulled the plug. How can this news be thought of as anything but bad news. Does it overall effect mobi in such a was that it's ruined..no of course not. But it's a sign. It's something that says to me...a major organization that deals primarily in information has failed to benefit from mobi and has decided to drop it in favor of the well known .com.

Oh, the Humanity!!!!

OH NO.
GLOOM AND DOOM.
boom boom.


This guy is the biggest HYPER of them all... "its a sign", heh.. give me a break.


"It's something that says to me...a major organization that deals primarily in information has failed to benefit from mobi and has decided to drop it in favor of the well known .com"

way to HYPE up the news labrocca.

 

[dag]

Creationism is to mobi as Evolution is to .com There I did it!

Ha...someone had to.

However, I think "Evolution is to .mobi" would be a much more accurate analogy...

(Not that I think "Creationism is to .com" would be, however...)

WOW...now that's bad news. I bet traffic was abysmal and they pulled the plug.

Actually, cnnmoney.mobi always redirected to http://mobile.cnn.com anyway, and THAT is what's down. Guess that means that silly ol' .COM extension isn't long for this world, doesn't it! (And yes, that's a joke...don't go off on a tirade, anyone.)

 

[iMODO Man]

I go away and make a cup of coffee and it seems in my absence weve teetered toward and then back from .MWIII

Maybe its just me but I dont really understand why domainers have to have a 'camp' in this denate and/or have to be labelled a .mobi skeptic or out-and-out supporter.

Surely were all domainers hoping that whatever extension is a success, were all on board and making a pretty penny. And if were not, then we wish those that are the best. Certainly in all my years domaining, i ve never once felt any jealousy when what I thought was garbage ended up being valuable and I wasnt there feasting on all the low hanging fruit. And anything spoken about .mobi now is pure speculation, these are all just opinions. I personally like facts and the only reason I join the ".mobi is crap" or "WOW, isnt .mobi great" threads is because neither is factually correct. Once something tangible is in the public domain then well all have a better understanding.

In fact the only thing I can safely report is the majority of .mobi registrations I see on this board are terrible. The trap newbies seem to be falling into when they read the "how great is .mobi" threads is by becoming over zealous and believing a .mobi domain works as well as a .com when in fact only certain subjects potentially will do.

My support of whitebark and labrocca is because I see the meaning behind their posts. They, from what i read and i hope im not wrong, make their views not because they want .mobi to fail but more because they are pouring cold water over an over-excited mob feeding on something that might be worthless.

Maybe a good analogy is, i see Jesse and Roy as Steven Seagal types walking from the burnt out .mobi wreckage (its set in the future), and just before the credits roll, they appear carrying a fallen newbie in their arms (theyre obviously dressed as a fireman and a little burnt) and just before the end they say "If i can save just one newbie from this carnage, then its all been worth it"....

 

[scandiman]

Chuck, the problem with your analogy is that Jesse and Roy are also the ones carrying the gas and matches. It is great to feel like a hero when you're the ones setting the fires.

 

[rosh86]

hi,

ive emailed cnn asking them exactly whats going on ... so to bring you the real reason why their mobile site is down (both .com and .mobi). Furthermore, I asked them how come it allways redirects to the long .com mobile site rather then staying on cnnmoney.mobi ...


so lets wait and see what happens,

most likely they are sorting it out ...

Rosh

 

[labrocca]

Chuck, the problem with your analogy is that Jesse and Roy are also the ones carrying the gas and matches. It is great to feel like a hero when you're the ones setting the fires.

oh no...the gas and matches come out if I ever decide to start an anti mobi blog. It's been in my head now for a couple months. I like the cold water analogy and personally that's how I feel about it. Mobi is overly heated and should be cooled off into a realistic realm. I still see terrible registrations for the extension and daily hype. Maybe this is the fault of namepros itself? This site seems to have a fair amount of new and growing member base..they see right on the top the mobi forums and lots of positive posts about how amazing mobi is and all the "potential" it has. Places like DNF with a very seasoned domainer crowd and no dedicated mobi area doesn't have the same problems with hype...to them it's just another extension.

 

[whitebark]

Chuck, the problem with your analogy is that Jesse and Roy are also the ones carrying the gas and matches. It is great to feel like a hero when you're the ones setting the fires.

Again - dare say anything contrary to the group think and you hate .mobi. you have become so overly simplistic you are not even worth reading anymore.

Where is that ignore button?

 

[mjnels]

Places like DNF with a very seasoned domainer crowd and no dedicated mobi area doesn't have the same problems with hype...to them it's just another extension.

wrong again... they created a mobi area.

you dont speak for everyone, so please stop trying.

 

[scandiman]

Again - dare say anything contrary to the group think and you hate .mobi. you have become so overly simplistic you are not even worth reading anymore.

Where is that ignore button?

Actually, it seems to work more like this: If you dare say anything positive and optimistic about .mobi and its place in the mobile web then you are an ignorant cultist that should be ignored.