Buying domain anonymously

[zxc2]

hi guys,

I was wondering if it's possible to buy a domain name completely anonymously? I am not talking about hiding information in whois but not giving the information to a register at all (using fake ones). How would that affect my ability to prove and maintain my rights to the domain?

any thoughts?

 

[TheBulldog]

Why?

Seriously, if you're going to that much bother, perhaps you should straighten out whatever the reason is first.

 

[Spade]

hi guys,

I was wondering if it's possible to buy a domain name completely anonymously? I am not talking about hiding information in whois but not giving the information to a register at all (using fake ones). How would that affect my ability to prove and maintain my rights to the domain?

any thoughts?

You are required by ICANN to keep accurate whois information. Even a proxy works. But not, you cannot abstain from giving information. Could you give a registrar fake information? Yes. But if someone complains to the registrar or ICANN, most likely they will cancel the domain name.

Justin

 

[NameCharger]

if you're that high profile, have your attorney reg it for you

otherwise simple whois privacy is fine

 

[zxc2]

well. how would they check if my personal information is correct or not? people do change names, addresses etc. do they lose they rights then?

 

[TheBulldog]

Not a matter of if they check, it is a requirement to provide true identity information.

No offense, but as a new person on the board we are seeing this as a suspicious request at best. There is no reason to hide yourself more then private whois would do unless you have some type of legal reason you don't want to---hiding financial assets, hiding yourself from authorities--hiding whatever.

 

[zxc2]

hey, no need to be suspicious. I am actually trying to buy my firs domain ever and just was wondering how all this work.
I guess my question is:
what information about a buyer is CRUCIAL? I give my name, address , phone number and e-mail, right? Now, I can move to another city thus change my address and phone number. There are dozens of people with the same name as mine. And anyone can be behind an e-mail address. So now, how would register verify information about me in a year from now for example?

 

[Gene]

So now, how would register verify information about me in a year from now for example?

By trying to contact you using the info in your 'whois'. If they can't reach you, you lose.

 

[zxc2]

well, they would most probably send me an e-mail, right? So any other information isn't that important?

 

[Gene]

well, they would most probably send me an e-mail, right? So any other information isn't that important?

Maybe, maybe not. Anyone may send you mail via US postal mail using your whois info, whether it be ICANN, police, a sales call, your registrar, whoever. Anybody who tries to reach you via your whois info and can't may file a complaint against you, at which point you're open for investigation.

 

[TheBulldog]

First of all, if you change your adress, it is your responsibility to change it at your registrar. Second, if you change your name that often, I would again ask why you have to.

And finally why are you seemingly so against providing this information?

 

[zxc2]

My guess is that if that happens, they should try e-mail next. And I could tell them via internet that I just moved to another city last month. What's wrong with this?

 

[Gene]

My guess is that if that happens, they should try e-mail next. And I could tell them via internet that I just moved to another city last month. What's wrong with this?

Everything is "wrong with this". It's not a matter of whether they'll try your email next. ALL of your information must be current. If you are not available at the address you state in your whois, regardless of whether or not you "just moved", your domain can be taken away from you. It's that simple. You have the resoponsibility to keep the whois information current.

When you move, your mail should be forwarded to your new address for a while, so that's not a big deal. But once you cannot be reached, THEN it becomes a problem.

 

[zxc2]

First of all, if you change your adress, it is your responsibility to change it at your registrar. Second, if you change your name that often, I would again ask why you have to.

And finally why are you seemingly so against providing this information?

in the last 3 years I changed my address 6 times. Are you saying that I should update my info each time?

 

[TheBulldog]

in the last 3 years I changed my address 6 times. Are you saying that I should update my info each time?

Sigh. Pretty much done with this......


Yes. You should.

It's very simple really, it is YOUR responsibility to keep TRUTHFUL information in your registrations. IF you don't you could lose your domains. As long as you are ok with that, have fun.

I really really hope you learn the lesson the hard way.

 

[zxc2]

Everything is "wrong with this". It's not a matter of whether they'll try your email next. ALL of your information must be current. If you are not available at the address you state in your whois, regardless of whether or not you "just moved", your domain can be taken away from you. It's that simple. You have the resoponsibility to keep the whois information current.

When you move, your mail should be forwarded to your new address for a while, so that's not a big deal. But once you cannot be reached, THEN it becomes a problem.

reaching somebody is a process that happens in time. And during this time I might be just moving to another city, state or continent. would that make me a criminal and allow them to revoke my domain?

Sigh. Pretty much done with this......


Yes. You should.

It's very simple really, it is YOUR responsibility to keep TRUTHFUL information in your registrations. IF you don't you could lose your domains. As long as you are ok with that, have fun.

I really really hope you learn the lesson the hard way.

hey, I'm not trying to scum anybody, just want to understand this fully.

 

[TheBulldog]

What is it you don't understand?

You move, change your address. Not rocket science here.


Gene, all yours I just don't have the energy.

 

[zxc2]

What is it you don't understand?

You move, change your address. Not rocket science here.


Gene, all yours I just don't have the energy.

so in a dispute case ICANN or register would send me a letter???
let say I live in tuva republic in a middle of a desert with a satelite dish for my T1 pipe and I get regular mail only once a month, delivered by a foot messenger from 50 miles away town. In that case I am not able to maintain a domain because I didnt reply to a letter on time???

 

[BeZazz]

maybe you should contact ICANN and ask them

 

[zxc2]

I'm asking here hoping that you guys have some experience regarding this? Has anybody been contacted by ICANN/register by a letter?