RegisterFly and NameCheap warnings

ZuraX said:

If you use the whois or spam guard thing offered at RegisterFly I suggest turning it off. The domains they use for your email address do not accept emails.

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Thanks for the heads up, ax. Do you know if eNom's privacyprotect has the same problem? I just tested mine, no email in yet.

I have yet to see a domain with theirs but if they dont enforce NameCheap and RegisterFly to have it set right I doubt they have their own setup right.

Thing I love is RF has an option to change the spamfly email address if you start getting spam... THEY DONT ACCEPT EMAIL TO THAT DOMAIN!!! So why have that option? lol

Just confirmed, my privacyprotect email with eNom works. Any privacy service that doesn't accept email on the registrant email records is a hoax and scam. I think a complaint to Internic/ICANN is necessary for this.

I actuall had a guy from ICANN email me when I complained about a domains fake whois not being changed in months even though many people including me had reported it. I asked him about this but he never answered.

What instences would they take it off you? i imagen somthing big would halfto draw there attenshion to it first?

qBert

Say someone sees your domain, decides to do a whois to get your email to offer to buy, they email and it comes back that it bounced. They goto http://wdprs.internic.net/ and report the bad email. ICANN emails the register and you have 2 week from the time ICANN emails. ICANN emails the person that reported you 2 weeks ago, they say the info hasnt been updated. ICANN has the register lock the domain and suspend the nameservers. The domain then drops a while later.

But wait.... the registrar (eNom, RegisterFly, NameCheap), they don't contact you thru that email address anyway. They use your real email address on file with them. They have your valid regular email address.

So, wouldn't they have to be involved in any domain dispute, and wouldn't they notify us?

Yea but what if you are away or dont get that email? Either way you still have invalid info in the whois. Youll just be reported again and again until ICANN gets pissed and nukes it.

Oh and lets not forget. RegisterFly charges you for that spamfly email address so you can change it if you get spam yet you can still get regular emails. If they admit they dont accept email on that domain isnt that saying they are charging their customers for something they are not giving them?

maybe that is why it's free at namecheap for new regs....

ZuraX said:

RegisterFly charges you for that spamfly email address so you can change it if you get spam yet you can still get regular emails. If they admit they dont accept email on that domain isnt that saying they are charging their customers for something they are not giving them?

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That's a good point.

Hey, just a funny thought guys... what if these spam protection services only appear to work so well, because they don't really work at all (as far as email delivery). You know what I mean? Ohhh... :o

Thanks for the heads up ZuraX.Much appreciated.I sure don't want to loose a name because of those functions.

Most people (and registrars) don’t seem to realize that providing a whois privacy service involves more than simply changing contact information and collecting money. It used to be that this service was free. Just put bogus information in the whois database and no one knew who you were. But the rules changed. It’s amazing how many people are willing to pay someone else to do this without giving any thought.

I should also point out that these services who provide you with a working “mailbox number” or something of the sort aren’t really providing much anonymity. Anyone who has access to bulk whois data can simply get a list of all names using that mailbox. From there it’s a piece of piss to track down who you are.

Posted on the RegisterFly site:



We have made numerous enhancements to our ProtectFly whois protection product. As the #1 provider of Whois Protection within the world we work harder to improve our whois privacy product.

Some of the recent changes are:

* We have replaced the spamfly email address with a Protectfly.com email address (example: '[email protected]')
* Instead of the same email addresses appearing for all contacts we now generate a unique protected email address for each type of contact(registrant, admin, billing and technical)
* Updates are now faster, Your Protectfly.com protected email address is now active within 5 minutes of enabling the service
* Within the domain manager you can quickly see which domains that are protected/unprotected. Enabling the service is as fast as clicking the Whois Protection Icon

We are in the process of updating all existing ProtectFly customers to the new ProtectFly 3.0 platform. You can also manually enable the service by re-enabling Whois protection on your domain names. This will force it to use the new 3.0 system as well as update the external whois of the name you are enabling.


I just updated one of my names with whois protection and was able to send an email and get it within a few minutes so it seems to work.

Yes RF did PM me here yesterday about changing SpamFly to ProtectFly. I didnt post an update here because I got busy with other stuff and planned to do it today. Is nice to see they are fixing the problem.

ZuraX said:

If you use the whois or spam guard thing offered at RegisterFly I suggest turning it off. The domains they use for your email address do not accept emails.

If you use NameCheap's whois guard I suggest turning it off.

All 3 of these domains whoisguard.com, spamfly.com, and ProtectFly.com all refuse or bounce emails. This violates ICANN rules and you could lose your domain over it.

NameCheap says they will fix it but when I test it the emails go nowhere.
RegisterFly refuses to fix it and simply states they dont run email servers for their 2 "protection" domains.

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Hello Zurax,

As far as I am aware this issue was corrected and emails should be forwarded. Could you please email [email protected] and make the subject "attention Richard Kirkendall" and I will run some tests on your account.

Our system also allows you to select to have the email address listed in the whois re-generated automatically. You can choose to have this easily re-generated every 1,2,5,10,15 or 30 days .

We also forward all registered mail we receive regarding a particular domain to it's owner. FREE of charge.

Just because we offer the first year of this service free does not mean that it shouldn't work. We are always looking to provide the best products for our clients, paid for or not.

We sincerely apolgize for any inconveniences you have experienced because of this and I can give you my word, we will do our best to rectify the situation as soon as possible.

Richard when I email the email in my whois I get error emails for days after saying
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