poll Should Domain Conferences Change It Up?

Internet.Domains · May 2, 2019

Should domain conferences change it up?

Today, going through the blog roll there was a post on an upcoming domain conference. In the comment section there was a very interesting post that defines what domain conferences have become. Realistically, domain conferences consist of paid advertisers lecturing to paid attendees. In other words, attendees pay to get spammed. Is it time to change it up?

In addition, is it time to change up other domain conference attractions such as auctions and events?

Comment and be constructive. Possibly organizers can learn from this and grow from it, which in return helps all domain investors.

equity78 · May 4, 2019

biggie said:
keeping endusers out, means that you have chance to buy at lower cost and resell to them for a profit
if endusers, ever become the majority of domainers, then costs and competition will rise

as for change I memba when there wasn't any conferences

at that time, there was no nb, no esibot, no flippo, no undev, no np, no da, no bp, no bb, no voodoo, no pc, and no gtld's, etc, etc

now there are several cons, and lots of tools and services to dig with, so change did come.
all of those changes, provide the nourishment that domainers now feed on.

the world of domaining is an evolutionary process .

but you have to know the past, to see the change, that came in the future.

You do bring up a good point, there needs to be that perfect balance, if Amazon and Google and Microsoft decided "Hey these assets are incredible let's get our bots on GoDaddy and NameJet" The average domainer would need to find a new job.

Internet.Domains · May 4, 2019

biggie said:
keeping endusers out, means that you have chance to buy at lower cost and resell to them for a profit
if endusers, ever become the majority of domainers, then costs and competition will rise

as for change I memba when there wasn't any conferences

at that time, there was no nb, no esibot, no flippo, no undev, no np, no da, no bp, no bb, no voodoo, no pc, and no gtld's, etc, etc

now there are several cons, and lots of tools and services to dig with, so change did come.
all of those changes, provide the nourishment that domainers now feed on.

the world of domaining is an evolutionary process .

but you have to know the past, to see the change, that came in the future.

Real estate prices rise and when it does, it does not ruin the industry.

Gold prices rise and when it does, it does not ruin the industry.

But you have to know the past to see the change........

biggie · May 4, 2019

Internet.Domains said:
Real estate prices rise and when it does, it does not ruin the industry.

Gold prices rise and when it does, it does not ruin the industry.

Hi
about a decade ago, we had the biggest real estate market crash, after home prices rose.
many are still suffering because of those loses.

as for gold, rising prices are mainly due to politics and world events.

when the price of gold rises, you can bet that something negative has happened elsewhere, that stimulated the price increase.

domains are just domains, and really shouldn't be compared to tangible items like homes, property, gold and other metals.

imo....

Internet.Domains · May 4, 2019

biggie said:
Hi
about a decade ago, we had the biggest real estate market crash, after home prices rose.
many are still suffering because of those loses.

as for gold, rising prices are mainly due to politics and world events.

when the price of gold rises, you can bet that something negative has happened elsewhere, that stimulated the price increase.

domains are just domains, and really shouldn't be compared to tangible items like homes, property, gold and other metals.

imo....

I was making the point that higher acquisitions costs can help liquidity and profit margins. This was in response to you mentioning higher prices and competition.

Soofi · May 4, 2019

As a Domain Name Conference organiser and going in to 6th annual edition this year, we have pretty much survived with minimum sponsors participation at DOMAINX each year. Of course, we have to offer paid tickets to (partially) support the event while at the same time, offering free attendee participation in order to maintain balance of spreading domain name awareness in the country (read India).

I have voted YES above to your question; Should Domain Conferences Change it Up, because I personally feel that attendees definitely deserve something new and worth their time, every time they participate in an event, doesn't matter if its paid/free since their participation adds up to attendee numbers which in turn rings up cash registers in sponsored events.

But there is NO innovation being done now a days due to very limited options left with an event organiser, to produce some thing new or fresh every year.

Ideas and suggestions are always welcome to make it fruitful for everyone

Chris Wright · May 5, 2019

Ironically, conferences have been changing it up.

NamesCon blew the doors off industry conferences. Made it more affordable, more democratic, and less elitist.

Mike Cyger's DNSeattle events brought huge personalitites to dirt cheap meetups. With DJ, free beer, and free food.

The MERGE! Show gave amazing actionable insights and revelations. And the highest caliber networking. But you weren't there...

We have an embarassment of riches compared to 6 or 7 years ago.

But you can't win if you don't play...

equity78 · May 5, 2019

I think the one thing that's hard to accomplish is the individual purpose for attending. It will never be universal. I remember Morgan Linton years ago telling me he went to give his talk and he had meetings lined up with companies in the business. He wasn't going to learn how to sell better.

Other people truly just want to meet who they perceive as the "rockstars" of the business, don't care about talks, just wanted to eat great food and drink with Mike Berkens or Frank Schilling.

I agree with @Chris Wright there are a lot of things going on and you just have to pick what you want and focus on that.

I do believe some want to go to a conference that costs them nothing, just pay to get there of course and their room. But they want free admission, champagne and lobster tail. I don't think on a big level that's ever going to happen.

You can do city meetups on the cheap, maybe get a sponsor that will pay for the bar tab and bar food, but they certainly are looking for business, they are just not sponsoring to sponsor.

Again I would love to know what content people think is missing, imo this is the most repetitive industry I have ever participated or worked in.

Again you can only repeat the same tropes over and over and then hope to go to the casino and hit a slot machine jackpot.

equity78 · May 5, 2019

Internet.Domains said:
Real estate prices rise and when it does, it does not ruin the industry.

Gold prices rise and when it does, it does not ruin the industry.

But you have to know the past to see the change........

There is truth to what you say, there are flippers that get priced out of a hot real estate market and can never participate.

If Google,Microsoft, Amazon had focused on domaining the way some wish they had they would have gotten all the good names, the great names forget about it, long gone. So the person who came into domaining 5 years ago to present I think would have little chance of doing anything really.

I just think to most people domaining is boring, some believe it's wrong, you can explain to them the legitimacy over and over. In a world of short attention spans it's hard to get past boring for many.

MSN-Domains · May 5, 2019

equity78 said:
imo this is the most repetitive industry I have ever participated or worked in.

Amen.

TCK · May 5, 2019

You will not find end-users at domain conferences.

If you have tech-related domains, you need to attend tech conferences. Or some other niche that your domains fall into.

Or attend business and startup related conferences.

Domain conferences should only be about improving your portfolio’s quality, how to sell more domains, how to diversify revenue streams, and tools/services to help you manage/sell/monetize domains. These sound like repetitive topics but there needs to be more innovation in the domaining space.

We are looking to fill that need. Contact me if you are interested in learning more.

equity78 · May 5, 2019

TCK said:
You will not find end-users at domain conferences.

If you have tech-related domains, you need to attend tech conferences. Or some other niche that your domains fall into.

Or attend business and startup related conferences.

Domain conferences should only be about improving your portfolio’s quality, how to sell more domains, how to diversify revenue streams, and tools/services to help you manage/sell/monetize domains. These sound like repetitive topics but there needs to be more innovation in the domaining space.

We are looking to fill that need. Contact me if you are interested in learning more.

I agree Domainers need to go to where the end users have their conference, started saying that like 8 years ago, people's replies were like, "yeah I'm doing that."

Domain conference's do become repetitive and there is only so many ways to say the same thing with a bit of a different nuance.

TCK · May 6, 2019

There’s no doubt that it is a challenge for con coordinators to get speakers with new ideas and advice. But they were able to do so in the past.

For example, at this year’s NamesCon @Kate Buckley had a great session about using storytelling in domain sales. I missed the session due to a coinciding meeting but she was kind enough to email me her talk outline. I requested it because I sensed it was going to be something unique and it was.

Couple years back, Steve Kaziyev of New York Media had a very good session about bundling services with a domain name and also on offering monthly subscriptions. He used the real estate market in his example.

Innovative stuff.

Q&A’s, fireside chats, and round tables are good bets. Keynote speakers are hit and miss. For example, in 2018, the Megadeth bassist, Dave Ellefson, was a surprise hit with good advice on how he is using domains in marketing his brands. Whereas in 2017, Matt Mullenweg (founder of WordPress) was mostly promoting the .blog TLD and really offered nothing of substance.

There are so many experienced and talented domainers that we don’t know about, but I have the amazing opportunity to work with them through the Domain Market Pro platform. However, at the domain cons we only hear from the same ones year after year, with a few exceptions.

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