The bad scene at Whypark continues

The only way for Whypark to work is for you to post custom content.

Sometimes you actually have to work. God forbid, I know, right?

Sometimes with less than stellar domains, there's more to it than changing the name servers your domain points to and adding it to your portfolio, then setting keywords and template.

My custom site with completely original content and a PR2 has been de-indexed. Google is anyway out of its mind and I honestly have nothing more to say to the algorithmic idiots.... I cannot lay the entire blame on whypark because they are at the receiving end of Google and I can imagine there is very less they can do about it. Very soon we should be able to buy GOOG stocks for $75. Its coming soon.

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is someone from google staff took a look at that place and flagged it as bad news like some other parking places i have been...once they do that Enest hemingway could write for your site every night and it will never be enough for genxeres serg and larry.Your domain is a "known spam site"serges google stock was worth21.8 billion in december and now it is worth 17.8.someone has to pay for rich jerks losses..as per the american way it will be the little guy.i highly doubt that pay was cut at goggles domain parking service..matter of fact it probably went up...cause they got rid of pain in the ass small players...joe kenedy 2008 boooyah

MildSeven said:

The only way for Whypark to work is for you to post custom content.

Sometimes you actually have to work. God forbid, I know, right?

Sometimes with less than stellar domains, there's more to it than changing the name servers your domain points to and adding it to your portfolio, then setting keywords and template.

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how crazy!!..did you ever think that there is no point to parking if you have to build your own site?.why would you cut in a partner if you have to "work"why not make your own site?the concept of parking is "i don't want to develop my domain"have you noticed all of the new parking companies promote various schemes involving the domain owner doing many things to create a website whilst cutting in a partner[the park company] anyone can see this defeats the point of parking;as it is the same work as creating you own site.[whypark allows customers to post there own ads and content..but look what happened..google is looking at it as spam nonetheless..]you really think that adding content to a whypark site once google managment has flagged it as spam [which we know]is going to help you?once google flags an area as spam you have to take uber effort to get back than to start to start from scratch.custom content is not going to do shi...google has whypark on a list of know spam sites...how ironic; remember there spash ad page"search engine will love you"notice they took that down!!!!..it used to work but no-mas..what is point of domain parking if you have to do all that?...just make site..make no mistake ;they are targeting certain companies...no one talks about this..as of now certain big parking companies are getting a pass..although they are being slammed too in regard to ranking
..so the big trend is; domain parking becomes unprofitable.... or less profitable unless you are a google paRking customer..which would be impossible..unless you have lunch with serg or have car.com.the situation we are in is bad and headed worse for parking.they do what ever they want since the have a unregulated monopoly with a proven record of screwing people.would it be a good idea to let the yankees hire the all the refs for the al league?[some minght say lol]that is the internet...who crowned google king of ads and king of PR?.google is god ;they control what gets seen and what gets paid..and what gets seen is what puts most coin in sege and larrrys billon dollar jeans

I haven't said anything, cause I'm not positive yet, but it looks to me like Google has taken steps in recent weeks to de-index or remove the rankings for most if not all parked and semi-parked domains. If someone can still find a parked domain that actually ranks for some search phrase, I'd like to know about it. This includes Whypark, Parked, Fabulous, Bodis and a few others I tested.

Whypark sites with actual original content (such as Varon's) probably got caught up in the 'bad neighborhood' scenario. Because a lot of their filtering wouldn't scale to the huge number of urls out there, they make assumptions - if 90% of the urls on Whypark's IP numbers contain severely duplicate content, they're just going to take down everything.

If this was a deliberate move by Google, these pages won't come back while hosted on Whypark.

Don't underestimate the number of complaints that Google (and Yahoo and to a lesser degree MSN) get about parked domains in the SERPS and the ads. That's why arbitrage went away, and it's probably what's behind this. Google doesn't really see a need to index and/or rank all these parked domains, and particularly not the ones with duplicate content on them. It actually costs some miniscule amount of money to do this, and times that times the hundreds of thousands of domains out there - well, they'd rather not spend the money.

Railing against Google might make you feel better, but it won't help your situation. Domainers are just plain not going be able to depend on getting search engine traffic (paid or organic) anymore.

Yep, the industry is changing.

netmeg said:

If someone can still find a parked domain that actually ranks for some search phrase, I'd like to know about it.

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I have a domain (abcd).com parked with Skenzo that has PR=2/10 and is placed at the position 4 for the "phrase" "abcd". It has no custom content.

If someone can still find a parked domain that actually ranks for some search phrase, I'd like to know about it.

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I have a couple of "nichedomainexamples" .com at Fabulous that still can be found for their respective "niche domain example" searches, BUT I did have a lot more, and the ones that are there seem to be sliding downhill fast (from top 10 to top 20 in the last couple of weeks).

I noticed this starting around the beginning of the year and have been developing my *** off, time permitting!

Don't underestimate the number of complaints that Google (and Yahoo and to a lesser degree MSN) get about parked domains in the SERPS and the ads. That's why arbitrage went away, and it's probably what's behind this. Google doesn't really see a need to index and/or rank all these parked domains, and particularly not the ones with duplicate content on them. It actually costs some miniscule amount of money to do this, and times that times the hundreds of thousands of domains out there - well, they'd rather not spend the money.

Railing against Google might make you feel better, but it won't help your situation. Domainers are just plain not going be able to depend on getting search engine traffic (paid or organic) anymore.

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Agreed!

I use whypark for affiliate stuff and my traffic comes from ppc, so no complaints there. also, I have about 10 whypark templates that allow me to get an affiliate site operational in about 20 min.

my blog remove-malware dot com now ranks very high for all my desired phrases.

i'm just focusing on my blog and it's paying off...almost 200 uniques a day now.

The big G only

netmeg said:

I haven't said anything, cause I'm not positive yet, but it looks to me like Google has taken steps in recent weeks to de-index or remove the rankings for most if not all parked and semi-parked domains. If someone can still find a parked domain that actually ranks for some search phrase, I'd like to know about it. This includes Whypark, Parked, Fabulous, Bodis and a few others I tested.

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I have a domain at Parked that ranks number one on MSN and number 2 on Yahoo but on the big G nothing. Not in the top 100. I have unique content thats changed about once per week.

I think the big G is doing something and it ain't pretty.

i moved all my whypark domains to parked.com

i dont want to get deindexed

about 250 domains

I have had several of my whypark domains (the ones that actual got traffic) deindexed. Webmaster tools says "Pages on your site may not appear in Google search results pages due to violations of the Google webmaster guidelines. Please review our webmaster guidelines and modify your site so that it meets those guidelines. Once your site meets our guidelines, you can request reconsideration and we'll evaluate your site. "

Great! Thanks for playing! I had custom stuff on several of my sites, and they did not look like parked pages. I think I am going to move everything to parked and concentrate on affiliate marketing with adwrds, which I've made more with this week, than with 6 wasted months of WhyPark! What is everybody else doing?

Meg, I have around 20 parked domains with NO content on Google's first page for different Kws. It really hurts to see custom content being delisted...and at the same time see my parked names indexed with some great search rankings.

Wouldn't it be a cinch for Google to find all parked domains - just by their hosting server, or dns? If they want to categorically delist parked domains, would they bother checking which ones had content, and then trying to judge how worthy the content was to keep in the index?

Has any of you had a parked site delisted and then gone on develop it after requesting a reinclusion? How long did it take to get relisted? Any tips on how to go about this?

Currently I'm trying out the customization options at Parked - it looks hopeful, but then I don't know if I should take the risk of putting lots of time building custom content, only to have the big G kick them out anyway in one of their sweeps.

mobidick said:

Wouldn't it be a cinch for Google to find all parked domains - just by their hosting server, or dns? If they want to categorically delist parked domains, would they bother checking which ones had content, and then trying to judge how worthy the content was to keep in the index?

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Actually, that's exactly what they do ...by Google's own admission. It is all very significantly affected by the "company you keep" (server wise). Remember their mantra: "relevant Results!" Given all the policing they do, anything less would be logistically impractical.

Once Google identifies a "preponderance of evidence" associated with a specific server scheme, they've been known to take down the whole damn thing with the flick of a switch (which also explains why mainstream hosting companies are so militant about even the appearance of spam by their customers, etc.).

It's just simple, "...Guilt by Association."

There are many documented cases of entire customer-bases on shared servers being taken down in such sweeps -- which, clearly, is exactly what has transpired in the case of Whypark. Rightfully or wrongfully, their servers are now "politically incorrect" -- no, make that, "Persona Non Grata" -- in the eyes of the almighty Google... and now EVERYONE -- no matter how robust or original their content -- is paying a very, very hefty price for it.

mobidick said:

Wouldn't it be a cinch for Google to find all parked domains - just by their hosting server, or dns? If they want to categorically delist parked domains, would they bother checking which ones had content, and then trying to judge how worthy the content was to keep in the index?

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Oh, I hasten to add, to my knowledge they don't generally go after parking companies that have formal feed arrangements in place.

Remember, the big difference here is/was that Whypark had no such arrangements in place ...in fact, their whole pitch was predicated on the notion that you "bring your own Adsense Code" and keep 100% of the revenue. Clearly, Whypark's model (and servers) are distinctly removed from any direct or formal association with Google advertising... hence the all-encompassing "draconian" play they made on Whypark ...it's like, "shoot first and ask questions later!"

So Yahoo feeds should be even more vulnerable, if not targetted, no?

I still have a few that rank as well. A very few, out of around a thousand domains total. I've also got some (without added content) that ranked as high as #2 and actually gained PR for a while - and they're completely gone out of index. Not unranked - gone. There can't be a question of penalizing, because there's no content to penalize.

If you still have parked domains that rank, good on you. But I wouldn't count on them holding their position in perpetuity, or even for very long. I'm now convinced that Google is in the process of filtering or deprecating most parked domains in SERPS unless it's for very longtail keyword phrases where there aren't a lot of other results. They're not going to get to them all overnight. But that's the general trend.

I don't know anyone personally who parks with AdSense for Domains (Google's own parking program) so I have no idea what they're seeing. I can't say it would surprise me very much if Google was boosting up their own parked domains to the detriment of other parking programs.

Well, its been about a month that I have moved a few domains from WP over to my hosting and they are still de-indexed. For those of you with deindexed sites from WP, are you guys able to get your sites visited by Big G again? My webmaster tools say that indexing can take time, so it does not have the option for requesting for reinclusion. But should I be making a request for re-inclusion.

Its funny, because, some of my sites that got de-indexed had original content and customized templates, and they still show adsense feeds. While others without unique content are still indexed but stopped showing adsense ads. Either way, there's obviously no winning formula for this setup.

netmeg said:

I still have a few that rank as well. A very few, out of around a thousand domains total. I've also got some (without added content) that ranked as high as #2 and actually gained PR for a while - and they're completely gone out of index. Not unranked - gone. There can't be a question of penalizing, because there's no content to penalize.

If you still have parked domains that rank, good on you. But I wouldn't count on them holding their position in perpetuity, or even for very long. I'm now convinced that Google is in the process of filtering or deprecating most parked domains in SERPS unless it's for very longtail keyword phrases where there aren't a lot of other results. They're not going to get to them all overnight. But that's the general trend.

I don't know anyone personally who parks with AdSense for Domains (Google's own parking program) so I have no idea what they're seeing. I can't say it would surprise me very much if Google was boosting up their own parked domains to the detriment of other parking programs.

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I left a few domains behind at WP since the January landslide. Hav'nt even bothered to look at them either. I lost all interest in WhyPark for the moment.

BTW can someone show me an example of a domain from "AdSense for Domains". Curious to see what they look like.

GIL