SCAMMER - Daisuke Konishi aka Larura Jame aka ...

tonecas · 07-16-2011, 04:40 PM

I have recently been scamed in $5,000 between PayPal and Wire Transfer payments for some short domains by this guy:

daisuke konishi nic@851.fm +81.727238359
genki.co.ltd
minoh6-5-73-102
minoh,osaka,JP 5620001

After a successful trade before, this time he didn’t transfer the domains to me and sold some of them to other domainers, kept my money and disappear.

I suspect that his personal information is fake. He seems to have an account with resellerclub.com and be well connected/based in India.
This is because:

1) He contacted me during the transaction process from the phone number +91 8220449378 which is from India. This phone is always disconnected, as it is his supposedly home phone in Japan. He said that he had lost his property with the earthquake + tsunami in Japan so he asked someone in India to contact me to arrange for the payment.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and-alerts/723418-scammer-daisuke-konishi-aka-larura-jame.html

2) He also tried to make me send some money by Western Union to a guy/exchanger named Kalai Mani in Madurai, India. According to him he needed money urgently to load its resselerclub account with WebMoney (the stupid let expire some short domains like CC.net and LLL.org and .net). He said that resselerclub worked only in India and USA. He had also reached the account receiving limit in PayPal. The same contact in India showed up in the WHOIS for its main domain 851.fm in mid-June:

Name: Kalai Mani
Organisation: Kalai Sys
Address:
15 South Anna Salao
Chennai, N/A 600028
IN
Email Address: domainrace@hotmail.com
Phone Number: +91.845741474

This email address domainrace@hotmail.com is now showing in at least the following domain names, that were in the name of Daisuke Konishi until mid-June, but with different (and fake) contacts:

Domain Investment
Larura Jame (domainrace@hotmail.com)
744, Ampark Suite
MV
California,94043
US
Tel. +001.87457457

Domains:
5630.com, 5931.com, 333.biz, 6212.com, iii.biz, 094.org, 096.org, 109.org, 184.org, 335.org, 449.org, 510.org, 646.org, qpm.org, qyt.org, rwg.org, tdv.org, trk.org, yle.org, lql.net, lhz.net, vuz.net, kqj.net, zsz.net, kkw.net, qge.net, qgm.net, wur.net, 1487.com, 4187.com, 9218.com, 2714.com, uzh.net, zhv.net, qfl.net, hitones.net, t-o.net, 059.biz, 043.biz, 1716.com, htt.net, 4832.com, xlj.net

3) The wire transfer was made to the bank account bellow in India. According to him it was its resselerclub’s bank account. Again another name, this time Suganthan S that has the email address sugan2285@gmail.com:

To: Bank Name : JP MORGAN CHASE, NEW YORK
Field 56 Swift Code / BIC : CHASUS33XXX
(Intermediary bank) Bank Clearing Code : FED ABA 021000021
For credit to: Account Number : 400808595 USD
Field 57 Beneficiary Bank : ICICI Bank Ltd., Mumbai (India)
Ultimate beneficiary: Account Number : 614801003453
Field 59 Account Name : Suganthan S

4) The PayPal was made to two accounts. Again, a new contact popping out:

** admin@851.fm

Customer Service Email: epnpro@yahoo.com

Business Name:
GetzShop (The recipient of this payment is Non-U.S. - Verified)
Email:
dhilipsaranya12@gmail.com
Payment sent to:
admin@851.fm

Business Contact Information :
Customer Service Email: epnpro@yahoo.com
Customer Service Phone: +91 01123816100

** sales@851.fm

Sent to:
daisuke konishi (The recipient of this payment is Non-U.S. - Verified)
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=723418
Email:
sales@851.fm

5) He tried to sell me KQC.com for $3,000 on 20th of June but at that time the domain had changed the WHOIS to another guy in India and then moved on to privacy WHOIS at GoDaddy:

Thepl
Raja (ameeriar67@yahoo.com)
51 South
Moutain View
California,94043
US
Tel. +001.7574747

This contact is associated with 5m.net which is also another domain that belonged to the scammer until mid-June.

The scammer has at least these domains still in his name:
5s.org, 7g.org, 9m.org, 9l.org, 9s.org, 9p.org, jsg.net, yrg.net, freeeuro.com, cctldnic.com, 21domain.net

If you see any of the domains or contacts described here please DON’T do business. You will be doing a favor to the community and to yourself.

Also, if you have made any deal already with any of these contacts please let me know.

regards,
tonecas

glaxxon · 07-17-2011, 09:49 AM

Looking at the kind of domains involved, looks like the scammer probably hacked someone's account and is selling all these names.
I suggest the we should temporarily flag these domains and should be careful...

tonecas · 07-18-2011, 07:02 AM

Hi glaxxon,

I thought of that also but even not having any proof to confirm it I believe that I dealt with the true owner and not an hacked account.

Some good news is that I was able to recover so far 1K from PayPal.

Anyone knows of any options to recover money from a wire transfer to a bank in India? Any legal entity to appeal?

regards,
tonecas

*Archangel* · 07-18-2011, 05:00 PM

I'm not sure. It's recommended to not use Western Union for domain sales

tonecas · 07-20-2011, 03:40 AM

Originally Posted by Archangel

I'm not sure. It's recommended to not use Western Union for domain sales

that's why I didn't use it.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=723418

Meanwhile, looking for another mass payment from PayPal I see that this scammer used yet another contact:

Sent to:
sugu s (The recipient of this payment is Non-U.S. - Verified)
Email:
ssugu21@yahoo.com
Payment sent to:
paypal@851.fm

regards,
tonecas

Tim Schoon · 08-05-2011, 09:36 AM

Really sorry to hear this, and I hope you can get that cash back somehow, but.. Did you really think you were going to get $15k+ worth of domains for $5k?!

If the rest of the story doesn't check out, like wrong phone numbers, not matching countries, western union etc.. It's just running past all red flags you can think of..

SpiderHunter · 08-05-2011, 01:00 PM

Scumbags, its always better to use an escrow service like Sedo because of these guys, better safe then sorry, and WU is always a risk. I am sorry for your loss, good luck

tonecas · 08-07-2011, 07:32 AM

thanks guys (and girls)

this was really a strange situation. the wire transfer took ages and in the meantime the scammer suggested several times to cancel the deal and use another method of payment. and because I had made a previous deal that worked fine I lowered my guard.

in the meantime the scammer has dropped another 6 LLL.NET domains that are on auction at SnapNames. lower quality but nonetheless a few bucks worth. completely insane...

regards,
tonecas

Cyberian · 11-28-2011, 10:40 AM

What ever happened with all this?

Peace,
Cy

tonecas · 11-28-2011, 11:07 AM

it is being dealt with the proper legal authorities.

regards,
tonecas

***mis_chiff*** · 11-28-2011, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by tonecas

it is being dealt with the proper legal authorities.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=723418

regards,
tonecas

Do you want to leave the thread open and update when there is news?

CureCancer · 11-28-2011, 12:07 PM

make sure to update us if you succeed with it.

tonecas · 11-28-2011, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by mis_chiff

Do you want to leave the thread open and update when there is news?

yes, that would be good.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=723418

regards,
tonecas

Acroplex · 01-04-2012, 07:40 AM

Same person turned up on DNForum and two threads:

dnforum.com/f529/lll-net-dqc-net-ekj-net-gfj-net-hsx-net-thread-473605.html

and

dnforum.com/f324/nnn-org-names-thread-473653.html

Domains for sale include the following:

vhb.net
vhv.net
vuz.net
vya.net
vzf.net
wfu.net
wko.net
wkr.net
wkt.net
wkv.net
wur.net
wuv.net
xgr.net
xsx.net
xww.net
dqc.net
ekj.net
gfj.net
hsx.net
hzx.net
jqa.net
jqv.net
jxq.net
kgc.net
kkb.net
kkw.net
kqj.net
032.org
034.org
035.org
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=723418
039.org
042.org
043.org
045.org
046.org
047.org
048.org
049.org
051.org
053.org
054.org
056.org
057.org
059.org

CureCancer · 01-04-2012, 07:59 AM

Did you inform Admin?

Originally Posted by Acroplex

Same person turned up on DNForum and two threads:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=723418

dnforum.com/f529/lll-net-dqc-net-ekj-net-gfj-net-hsx-net-thread-473605.html

and

dnforum.com/f324/nnn-org-names-thread-473653.html

Domains for sale include the following:

vhb.net
vhv.net
vuz.net
vya.net
vzf.net
wfu.net
wko.net
wkr.net
wkt.net
wkv.net
wur.net
wuv.net
xgr.net
xsx.net
xww.net
dqc.net
ekj.net
gfj.net
hsx.net
hzx.net
jqa.net
jqv.net
jxq.net
kgc.net
kkb.net
kkw.net
kqj.net
032.org
034.org
035.org
039.org
042.org
043.org
045.org
046.org
047.org
048.org
049.org
051.org
053.org
054.org
056.org
057.org
059.org

Acroplex · 01-04-2012, 08:11 AM

Admins have been notified along with those unfortunate to have bought from those threads.

rngrdanny22 · 01-04-2012, 09:52 AM

He has other threads including this one:

dnforum.com/f529/v6-org-thread-473360.html

Someone posted today that the sale was completed. So is this guy just taking people's money, or are the domains stolen?

---------- Post added at 09:52 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:23 AM ----------

He just responded via this message:

dnforum.com/f529/v6-org-thread-473360.html

Seems to go hand in hand with the original post in this thread... interesting indeed...

CureCancer · 01-04-2012, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by Acroplex

Admins have been notified along with those unfortunate to have bought from those threads.

According to one of our members at DNF he purchased the names and is saying he has no complaints.

Acroplex · 01-04-2012, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by CureCancer

According to one of our members at DNF he purchased the names and is saying he has no complaints.

LLL .net domains sold at $360 a pop are legit? Just how much did he buy them for? This "Exam" guy at DNForum is simply laundering stolen domains.

CureCancer · 01-04-2012, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Acroplex

LLL .net domains sold at $360 a pop are legit? Just how much did he buy them for? This "Exam" guy at DNForum is simply laundering stolen domains.

I agree, You have my support I like to see someone like yourself with experience to investigate this as deep as you can and find a solution if possible.

Originally Posted by seek99 (DNF MEMBERS)

yes received the names went 4K escrow.com they paid to inidai and #2 $5K payopal got names so far no complaints
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=723418
I did a disoute payapl be on teh safe side.

*Archangel* · 01-04-2012, 12:01 PM

He might have a friend saying these good things, hoping to give the spammer some trust. Or maybe there's something else on the agenda...

Originally Posted by CureCancer

According to one of our members at DNF he purchased the names and is saying he has no complaints.

CureCancer · 01-04-2012, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Archangel

He might have a friend saying these good things, hoping to give the spammer some trust. Or maybe there's something else on the agenda...

Sooner or later that agenda will be exposed, let's just hope we can put a stop to this before another honest Domainer is targeted.

***Corey*** · 01-04-2012, 02:15 PM

have you called the Police?

Cheers
Corey

tonecas · 01-04-2012, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by Acroplex

Same person turned up on DNForum and two threads:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=723418

dnforum.com/f529/lll-net-dqc-net-ekj-net-gfj-net-hsx-net-thread-473605.html

and

dnforum.com/f324/nnn-org-names-thread-473653.html

thanks Acro! i don't have an account with DNForum.

can't go into much details still yet since every bit of information helps a scammer.

but suffices to say that those domains apparently get on the hands of other Indian guys. seems like a very small market

regards,
tonecas

Earthian · 01-05-2012, 03:25 AM

according to the OP , the whois for 851.fm was for Kalai Mani from Channai with domainrace@hotmail.com address

in 17th post in the dnforum thread bfstay mentions that from escrow the details of the seller (Exam) are ... "Thilipan P (kalaimani40@live.com)" ... therefore Exam is Kalai Mani

Exam says that he bought the domains from domainrace@hotmail.com which is obviously a lie since it is his address

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=723418
moreover , according to his dnforum profile , Exam is from Chennai (where Kalai Mani/domainrace@hotmail.com is from)

07-16-2011, 04:40 PM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
tonecas NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 812	SCAMMER - Daisuke Konishi aka Larura Jame aka ... I have recently been scamed in $5,000 between PayPal and Wire Transfer payments for some short domains by this guy: daisuke konishi nic@851.fm +81.727238359 genki.co.ltd minoh6-5-73-102 minoh,osaka,JP 5620001 After a successful trade before, this time he didn’t transfer the domains to me and sold some of them to other domainers, kept my money and disappear. I suspect that his personal information is fake. He seems to have an account with resellerclub.com and be well connected/based in India. This is because: 1) He contacted me during the transaction process from the phone number +91 8220449378 which is from India. This phone is always disconnected, as it is his supposedly home phone in Japan. He said that he had lost his property with the earthquake + tsunami in Japan so he asked someone in India to contact me to arrange for the payment. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and-alerts/723418-scammer-daisuke-konishi-aka-larura-jame.html 2) He also tried to make me send some money by Western Union to a guy/exchanger named Kalai Mani in Madurai, India. According to him he needed money urgently to load its resselerclub account with WebMoney (the stupid let expire some short domains like CC.net and LLL.org and .net). He said that resselerclub worked only in India and USA. He had also reached the account receiving limit in PayPal. The same contact in India showed up in the WHOIS for its main domain 851.fm in mid-June: Name: Kalai Mani Organisation: Kalai Sys Address: 15 South Anna Salao Chennai, N/A 600028 IN Email Address: domainrace@hotmail.com Phone Number: +91.845741474 This email address domainrace@hotmail.com is now showing in at least the following domain names, that were in the name of Daisuke Konishi until mid-June, but with different (and fake) contacts: Domain Investment Larura Jame (domainrace@hotmail.com) 744, Ampark Suite MV California,94043 US Tel. +001.87457457 Domains: 5630.com, 5931.com, 333.biz, 6212.com, iii.biz, 094.org, 096.org, 109.org, 184.org, 335.org, 449.org, 510.org, 646.org, qpm.org, qyt.org, rwg.org, tdv.org, trk.org, yle.org, lql.net, lhz.net, vuz.net, kqj.net, zsz.net, kkw.net, qge.net, qgm.net, wur.net, 1487.com, 4187.com, 9218.com, 2714.com, uzh.net, zhv.net, qfl.net, hitones.net, t-o.net, 059.biz, 043.biz, 1716.com, htt.net, 4832.com, xlj.net 3) The wire transfer was made to the bank account bellow in India. According to him it was its resselerclub’s bank account. Again another name, this time Suganthan S that has the email address sugan2285@gmail.com: To: Bank Name : JP MORGAN CHASE, NEW YORK Field 56 Swift Code / BIC : CHASUS33XXX (Intermediary bank) Bank Clearing Code : FED ABA 021000021 For credit to: Account Number : 400808595 USD Field 57 Beneficiary Bank : ICICI Bank Ltd., Mumbai (India) Ultimate beneficiary: Account Number : 614801003453 Field 59 Account Name : Suganthan S 4) The PayPal was made to two accounts. Again, a new contact popping out: admin@851.fm Customer Service Email: epnpro@yahoo.com Business Name: GetzShop (The recipient of this payment is Non-U.S. - Verified) Email: dhilipsaranya12@gmail.com Payment sent to: admin@851.fm Business Contact Information : Customer Service Email: epnpro@yahoo.com Customer Service Phone: +91 01123816100 sales@851.fm Sent to: daisuke konishi (The recipient of this payment is Non-U.S. - Verified) ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=723418 Email: sales@851.fm 5) He tried to sell me KQC.com for $3,000 on 20th of June but at that time the domain had changed the WHOIS to another guy in India and then moved on to privacy WHOIS at GoDaddy: Thepl Raja (ameeriar67@yahoo.com) 51 South Moutain View California,94043 US Tel. +001.7574747 This contact is associated with 5m.net which is also another domain that belonged to the scammer until mid-June. The scammer has at least these domains still in his name: 5s.org, 7g.org, 9m.org, 9l.org, 9s.org, 9p.org, jsg.net, yrg.net, freeeuro.com, cctldnic.com, 21domain.net If you see any of the domains or contacts described here please DON’T do business. You will be doing a favor to the community and to yourself. Also, if you have made any deal already with any of these contacts please let me know. regards, tonecas Last edited by tonecas; 07-18-2011 at 07:06 AM.

07-17-2011, 09:49 AM	#2 (permalink)
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07-18-2011, 07:02 AM	THREAD STARTER #3 (permalink)
tonecas NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 812	Hi glaxxon, I thought of that also but even not having any proof to confirm it I believe that I dealt with the true owner and not an hacked account. Some good news is that I was able to recover so far 1K from PayPal. Anyone knows of any options to recover money from a wire transfer to a bank in India? Any legal entity to appeal? regards, tonecas __________________ --------------------- * eBay+PayPal users: careful with this scammer - kassir30 Careful with this SCAMMER DomainTools - The most lame and arrogant company currently in business

08-05-2011, 09:36 AM	#6 (permalink)
Tim Schoon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,180	Really sorry to hear this, and I hope you can get that cash back somehow, but.. Did you really think you were going to get $15k+ worth of domains for $5k?! If the rest of the story doesn't check out, like wrong phone numbers, not matching countries, western union etc.. It's just running past all red flags you can think of.. __________________ PEJ.com - high-end domain name brokerage & portfolio management

08-07-2011, 07:32 AM	THREAD STARTER #8 (permalink)
tonecas NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 812	thanks guys (and girls) this was really a strange situation. the wire transfer took ages and in the meantime the scammer suggested several times to cancel the deal and use another method of payment. and because I had made a previous deal that worked fine I lowered my guard. in the meantime the scammer has dropped another 6 LLL.NET domains that are on auction at SnapNames. lower quality but nonetheless a few bucks worth. completely insane... regards, tonecas __________________ --------------------- * eBay+PayPal users: careful with this scammer - kassir30 Careful with this SCAMMER DomainTools - The most lame and arrogant company currently in business Last edited by tonecas; 08-07-2011 at 07:37 AM.

07-18-2011, 05:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
Archangel www.randypendleton.com Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southern Ohio, USA Posts: 7,305	I'm not sure. It's recommended to not use Western Union for domain sales

08-05-2011, 01:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
SpiderHunter New Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 16	Scumbags, its always better to use an escrow service like Sedo because of these guys, better safe then sorry, and WU is always a risk. I am sorry for your loss, good luck

11-28-2011, 10:40 AM	#9 (permalink)
Cyberian Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Emerald Triangle Posts: 4,592	What ever happened with all this? Peace, Cy __________________ Remember who your loyalties are divided between, and choose for the right reasons who deserves them.

11-28-2011, 11:07 AM	THREAD STARTER #10 (permalink)
tonecas NamePros Regular Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 812	it is being dealt with the proper legal authorities. regards, tonecas __________________ --------------------- * eBay+PayPal users: careful with this scammer - kassir30 Careful with this SCAMMER DomainTools - The most lame and arrogant company currently in business

11-28-2011, 12:07 PM	#12 (permalink)
CureCancer Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,222	make sure to update us if you succeed with it. __________________ End User Domain Name Appraisal - How to find End Users - How to Email End Users Domaining Blog - Domain Name Landing Page Templates - Domain Name Appraisal Domaining Tools - How to sell Domain Names - How to buy Domain Names

01-04-2012, 07:40 AM	#14 (permalink)
Acroplex Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,824	Same person turned up on DNForum and two threads: dnforum.com/f529/lll-net-dqc-net-ekj-net-gfj-net-hsx-net-thread-473605.html and dnforum.com/f324/nnn-org-names-thread-473653.html Domains for sale include the following: vhb.net vhv.net vuz.net vya.net vzf.net wfu.net wko.net wkr.net wkt.net wkv.net wur.net wuv.net xgr.net xsx.net xww.net dqc.net ekj.net gfj.net hsx.net hzx.net jqa.net jqv.net jxq.net kgc.net kkb.net kkw.net kqj.net 032.org 034.org 035.org ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=723418 039.org 042.org 043.org 045.org 046.org 047.org 048.org 049.org 051.org 053.org 054.org 056.org 057.org 059.org __________________ DomainGang.com - Digital Entertainment for Domainers Acroplex - Web & Graphics Acro.net - My Blog Last edited by mis_chiff; 01-04-2012 at 07:50 AM.

01-04-2012, 08:11 AM	#16 (permalink)
Acroplex Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,824	Admins have been notified along with those unfortunate to have bought from those threads. __________________ DomainGang.com - Digital Entertainment for Domainers Acroplex - Web & Graphics Acro.net - My Blog

01-04-2012, 09:52 AM	#17 (permalink)
rngrdanny22 NamePros Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 154	He has other threads including this one: dnforum.com/f529/v6-org-thread-473360.html Someone posted today that the sale was completed. So is this guy just taking people's money, or are the domains stolen? ---------- Post added at 09:52 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:23 AM ---------- He just responded via this message: dnforum.com/f529/v6-org-thread-473360.html Seems to go hand in hand with the original post in this thread... interesting indeed... Last edited by mis_chiff; 01-04-2012 at 12:55 PM. Reason: links to external forums removed

01-04-2012, 02:15 PM	#23 (permalink)
*Corey* Business Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 4,214	have you called the Police? Cheers Corey __________________ ☆ Occupy.TV website/domain name for sale!

01-05-2012, 03:25 AM	#25 (permalink)
Earthian NamePros Regular Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Earth Posts: 926	according to the OP , the whois for 851.fm was for Kalai Mani from Channai with domainrace@hotmail.com address in 17th post in the dnforum thread bfstay mentions that from escrow the details of the seller (Exam) are ... "Thilipan P (kalaimani40@live.com)" ... therefore Exam is Kalai Mani Exam says that he bought the domains from domainrace@hotmail.com which is obviously a lie since it is his address ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=723418 moreover , according to his dnforum profile , Exam is from Chennai (where Kalai Mani/domainrace@hotmail.com is from) __________________ ██__________██ ██____e-vj____██ ██__________██

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