PARKED.COM - Official Thread!

[ZOX]

Hi,

Welcome to the OFFICIAL PARKED.COM thread!

 

[NPKJB]

All next week I will be at the ICANN meetings in Los Angeles, and I was wondering if anybody was interested in getting together for a few drinks and maybe some dinner on either Friday (11/2) or Saturday (11/3) night. I'll be staying at the Los Angeles Airport Hilton so if possible I would like to get together some place close if possible.

Anybody interested? I'm buying!

Donny

Donny... I don't live in Cali but if your ever in NY, let me know. I'd be interested in meeting the man behind one of the best parking services around. :hehe:

 

[Donny]

Matt - Yes Yahoo does give me domain and user level reporting. This is how we pay people currently. Google depending on which feed you have does provide domain level reporting, but it's the AFD feed that has this, not the AFS like you are using currently through Ask. I talked to a very good friend at Google about providing domain level reporting or even user level and he said that if they did that then the AFS feed would then be smart priced.

I will be in NY for Adtech in 2 weeks, but I'm not sure what my agenda is yet.

Donny

 

[hitchhiker]

Matt - Yes Yahoo does give me domain and user level reporting. This is how we pay people currently. Google depending on which feed you have does provide domain level reporting, but it's the AFD feed that has this, not the AFS like you are using currently through Ask. I talked to a very good friend at Google about providing domain level reporting or even user level and he said that if they did that then the AFS feed would then be smart priced.

I will be in NY for Adtech in 2 weeks, but I'm not sure what my agenda is yet.

Donny

sorry to butt in with amature questions but whats a AFD feed vs. AFS feed?

 

[matt_bodis]

Direct vs Syndicated I believe.

Donny, does Yahoo also give CPC data for the clicks on the domain names? I am quite impressed with what Yahoo has if they do offer it, but I do believe this can lead to reverse engineering much easier.

Btw, I will be @ Adtech as well. We should maybe meet up? I will be there on the 6th.

Why would the AFS be smart priced if the AFD owner would be provided with this data? I am not getting the connection here.

The only thing I can think of is that they don't want the AFS networks to figure out their CPC per domain basis if they somehow also have AFD feed. And if that's the case, then Google must be hiding something from AFS networks. Strange...

 

[ZOX]

Direct vs Syndicated I believe.

Donny, does Yahoo also give CPC data for the clicks on the domain names? I am quite impressed with what Yahoo has if they do offer it, but I do believe this can lead to reverse engineering much easier.

Btw, I will be @ Adtech as well. We should maybe meet up? I will be there on the 6th.

Why would the AFS be smart priced if the AFD owner would be provided with this data? I am not getting the connection here.

The only thing I can think of is that they don't want the AFS networks to figure out their CPC per domain basis if they somehow also have AFD feed. And if that's the case, then Google must be hiding something from AFS networks. Strange...

Thanks for the explanation Matt! :tu:

 

[NameCharger]

I would like to see Parked's system make it easier to remove keywords, similar to Parking Panel.

eg: set keyword seed for domain which populates a list of keyword/s and lets you quickly and easily delete them so you can only use 1 keyword if desired.

This can be achieved with Parked, but the remove keyword feature adds up timewise.

 

[hitchhiker]

Matt,

So what does the ASK (AFS) feed provide? simply a total $ per user per day?

Direct vs Syndicated I believe.

Donny, does Yahoo also give CPC data for the clicks on the domain names? I am quite impressed with what Yahoo has if they do offer it, but I do believe this can lead to reverse engineering much easier.

Btw, I will be @ Adtech as well. We should maybe meet up? I will be there on the 6th.

Why would the AFS be smart priced if the AFD owner would be provided with this data? I am not getting the connection here.

The only thing I can think of is that they don't want the AFS networks to figure out their CPC per domain basis if they somehow also have AFD feed. And if that's the case, then Google must be hiding something from AFS networks. Strange...

 

[mydeuter]

hi,im new bie here. ..do we need to have 10 domains before sign up at parked ?

 

[Donny]

AFS = Adsense for Search was designed for Search Engines like AOL and Ask. It's the concept that they only have 1 domain, not multiple domains. From my understanding is that Parking companies should have never been given access to the AFS feed. But that's just my understanding. You can get an AFS feed from Google if you bring in about $10M a month or you could go to the other company that hopefully still has their contract at the end of the year.

AFD = Adsense for Domains which provides domain level reporting but also smart pricing. From my understanding smart pricing came into play here because of people cheating or sending low quality traffic. If I remember correctly an AFD feed also gives you domain or user level reporting.

An AFS feed requires you to go to a 2 click lander. And AFD allows you to go to a 1 click or a 2 click.

Yahoo tells me how many clicks, how many searches, and how much revenue per domain. You could reverse engineer it, but why it will all change tomorrow. All you can do is get an average of the RPC for a certain keyword. But it's also by country as well so in some cases it's easier and some cases it's harder.

At adtech we will have booth on the 3rd floor so come by and we can chat.

Donny

 

[NPKJB]

I will be in NY for Adtech in 2 weeks, but I'm not sure what my agenda is yet.

Donny

Ok... Donny.

Let us know when you iron out your agenda. Maybe we can gather up a couple of members to have a little roundtable chat.

-KB-

 

[vbigdeli]

Donny : Do u have direct AFS contract with Google?if not,why not?

AFS performs well for me at Parking Panel...But they receive feeds from Ask.

 

[Donny]

vbigdeli - Yeah, we have a feed from Ask just like Bodis, Skenzo, and Parking Panel does. In our case the Ask/AFS is our secondary feed.

I'll be in NY for adtech from the night of 11/4 until the afternoon of 11/8. I have booth stuff on Monday and Tuesday during the day, and just some sessions Wednesday and Thursday during the day. So I'm always available during the night.

Donny

 

[vbigdeli]

But Ask do like a middleman in Hacking...I don't like this..they get 2$ and pay u 1.50 cents and we will get finally around 1$....can't u make 20$M in month to get AFS/AFD directly from Google?ofcourse I know that they are ur secondary feed..

Sorry for my bad English

 

[Donny]

It's a long story on why not many companies have a direct AFS feed. I think the current choices I have today, it's the best of all worlds.

Donny

 

[matt_bodis]

Hmm, I thought Skenzo doesn't use Ask anymore and that ParkingPanel had direct from Google? Not 100% sure on ParkingPanel, but was pretty positive that Skenzo stopped using Ask.

 

[johname]

Rbt33176 i looked at your prior posts, you joined Parked.com in late June as a domain newbie, now your a big shot guy looking for a class action suit LOL.


From Rbt33176 06-25-2007, 02:56 PM :

"First, greetings to all. Been collecting names for a few months and have about 120 names, but never monetized them. Parked 20 names with Parked.com after reading an article on Business 2.0. So far no complains, only wish their pages did not look all the same. Their system is easy to navigate and manage and my pages have consistently generated about $1.5 to $3 per page/day. Lately some names have been generating over $5. If things continue to go well, then I will transfer all my names to them, but wish to hear from other users. Thanks. "

 

[Donny]

Matt - Skenzo and Parking Panel still use Ask.

Donny

 

[Mobi Cheap]

...
...The attorneys are looking forward to filling the complains. They know there are big pockets.

Of course they are.

I hope you don't see this as a key factor in deciding to invest your time in this venture.

There are multiple possible reasons why some attorneys may want to do this, not necessarily related to the likelihood of success in this particular case.
:imho:

 

[Donny]

Robert as I told you before, clicking on your own domains is not allowed. Whether it's you or your family it's still not allowed. And you spammed craigslist as well.

Your account was terminated just like any account would be terminated who was cheating us or our advertisers. You agreed to follow our TOS when you signed up, you broke the rules and you were terminated.

I will not comment on you or "the class action" anymore.

Donny

 

[mrizos]

Do you parked.com experts have any tips on getting a better CTR? I'll take any thoughts on this.

 

[discovernow]

Donny,

I am meeting with the CEO of Demand Media, Richard Rosenblatt in Los Angeles and some other enom people on Monday next week. What day are you coming in to LA. Maybe I will stay over a couple of days. I will pm you as well.
Thanks, Jim

All next week I will be at the ICANN meetings in Los Angeles, and I was wondering if anybody was interested in getting together for a few drinks and maybe some dinner on either Friday (11/2) or Saturday (11/3) night. I'll be staying at the Los Angeles Airport Hilton so if possible I would like to get together some place close if possible.

Anybody interested? I'm buying!

Donny

 

[DADomains]

Rbt33176 i looked at your prior posts, you joined Parked.com in late June as a domain newbie, now your a big shot guy looking for a class action suit LOL.


From Rbt33176 06-25-2007, 02:56 PM :

"First, greetings to all. Been collecting names for a few months and have about 120 names, but never monetized them. Parked 20 names with Parked.com after reading an article on Business 2.0. So far no complains, only wish their pages did not look all the same. Their system is easy to navigate and manage and my pages have consistently generated about $1.5 to $3 per page/day. Lately some names have been generating over $5. If things continue to go well, then I will transfer all my names to them, but wish to hear from other users. Thanks. "

Holy crap. He is a newbie, bought 120 names, parked only 20 of them, and is making $1.5 to $3 PER page/day ?? OMG, that comes to around $16,452 a year with those 20 domains. He is WAAAAY better at picking domains than I am.

I have been doing this for 4 months, bought around 250 domains, parked them all, and only have ONE site that makes me $3 a day on average. How do some people do it?

Maybe mine are just not optimized right...

 

[Varon]

Parked.com Tips

Do you parked.com experts have any tips on getting a better CTR? I'll take any thoughts on this.

Firstly, I'm not an expert on parked.com, but I'm learning a bit. Let me summarize what can be done at Parked.com.

Opportunity lies in the eyes of the beholder. I understand that there are limitations on customizing a parked page. However, its best to always work within limitations and make the best use of available resources.

Here are a few tips that can help you monetize your parked domains better.

1. The minute you sign up and transfer your domain to parked.com, don't lose time in writing a keyword rich title and meta description. If you don't you might end up getting the standard description with some KW's mentioned. I noticed that all my domains on parked.com are getting indexed super fast on Google. Parked allows you to enter a meta description 128 characters long. Make sure to use as much of this as possible. For finding good low competing high occurence keywords, please reference wordtracker or any other appropriate KW research program. By doing this, you are also ensuring that you might be able to tap some traffic from search engines too. Why waste this great opportunity?


2. Use the right keyword. Try researching a bit and you will definitely come up with a good keyword. For example, if you are targeting debt consolidation, make a list of various similar keywords, i.e

a)Consolidating Debt
b)Debt Consolidation
c)Bad Credit Debt Consolidation

Now, each KW pulls up different related KW's on both the 1CL/2CL (CL=Click Lander). For example, here is how the parked.com KW system works with ref to a 2CL. The total related KW links pulled up are 23.

If my KW is Debt Consolidation, the top header would break up into 6 related links. In this case, the main KW links would be

1) Debt Consolidation
2) Credit Card Management
3) Consolidation Credit
4) Credit Information
5) Loan Processing
6) Consolidation

Now again, Debt Consolidation breaks up into 10 links of which 5 KW's are pulled up from the header. So its 5 new KW links. Later item 2-4 are broken up into 4 links each totalling 12.

In short, we have 23 KW's, each associated with different CPC's. Now, the way to go about this would be to experiment with each KW and see what 23 links it pulls up. On an advanced level, I would even delve deeper to make sure that all the 23 links have decent CPC payoffs. But that is going a bit too far.

It would be best to try 1 keyword every 10 days and make a note of its resulting payoffs. This also helps the system get real, rather than historic values for your domain, based on actual yahoo payoffs. So, at the end of the 10 day test period, you know exactly what benchmark CPC that keyword is going to pay you.

Now you can rotate your 3 major keywords each over 10 days. At the end of the 1st month, you know what works best for you. Thats your KW to target.

3. During this testing stage, try working on your landers. Use pleasant web safe colors. To find what web safe colors are, just run a Yahoo/Google search and you should find substantial stuff.

Give your domain a short decent title like "the best payday loans" etc. Try using a friendly non controversial human face on your domain. Visitors get interested looking at a picture. You could also use related cartoons on certain serious themes to gain attention and break down the monotony. Like for example, if you have some cartoon depicting some funny words related to loans, you might get people to stay on and maybe explore your site links.

What I mean is, try whatever seems novel to you. You could hit up with a great picture that grabs people's attention. In some cases however, a human picture might not be appropriate. For example, a medical equipment, like an ECG machine. Here you might want to actually show an ECG machine. Think right and you will get things right.

4) Try different template and color combinations and make a note of your CTR. This gives you an idea of which templates work best. For example, if your domain is related to sports cars and speed vehicles, you may want to use vibrant red shades catering to a vastly younger audience.

5) If you are running a campaign, make effective use of keywords in your ad. This holds significance esp for your title line. Give a call to action. Words like New, Discover, Limited Time, Free etc are proven attention grabbers. Read up on some top advertising keywords which help you create good conversions. You and Only You can make or break your campaign with words. So use them well and you will succeed.

For those who think domaining is easy... ah.. its a nightmare. Its more like a full time job with extreme dedication.

 

[Mobi Cheap]

^ Just one word: awesome!

P.S.: Does everyone know how to add rep by now?

 

[ZOX]

Firstly, I'm not an expert on parked.com, but I'm learning a bit. Let me summarize what can be done at Parked.com.

Opportunity lies in the eyes of the beholder. I understand that there are limitations on customizing a parked page. However, its best to always work within limitations and make the best use of available resources.

Here are a few tips that can help you monetize your parked domains better.

1. The minute you sign up and transfer your domain to parked.com, don't lose time in writing a keyword rich title and meta description. If you don't you might end up getting the standard description with some KW's mentioned. I noticed that all my domains on parked.com are getting indexed super fast on Google. Parked allows you to enter a meta description 128 characters long. Make sure to use as much of this as possible. For finding good low competing high occurence keywords, please reference wordtracker or any other appropriate KW research program. By doing this, you are also ensuring that you might be able to tap some traffic from search engines too. Why waste this great opportunity?


2. Use the right keyword. Try researching a bit and you will definitely come up with a good keyword. For example, if you are targeting debt consolidation, make a list of various similar keywords, i.e

a)Consolidating Debt
b)Debt Consolidation
c)Bad Credit Debt Consolidation

Now, each KW pulls up different related KW's on both the 1CL/2CL (CL=Click Lander). For example, here is how the parked.com KW system works with ref to a 2CL. The total related KW links pulled up are 23.

If my KW is Debt Consolidation, the top header would break up into 6 related links. In this case, the main KW links would be

1) Debt Consolidation
2) Credit Card Management
3) Consolidation Credit
4) Credit Information
5) Loan Processing
6) Consolidation

Now again, Debt Consolidation breaks up into 10 links of which 5 KW's are pulled up from the header. So its 5 new KW links. Later item 2-4 are broken up into 4 links each totalling 12.

In short, we have 23 KW's, each associated with different CPC's. Now, the way to go about this would be to experiment with each KW and see what 23 links it pulls up. On an advanced level, I would even delve deeper to make sure that all the 23 links have decent CPC payoffs. But that is going a bit too far.

It would be best to try 1 keyword every 10 days and make a note of its resulting payoffs. This also helps the system get real, rather than historic values for your domain, based on actual yahoo payoffs. So, at the end of the 10 day test period, you know exactly what benchmark CPC that keyword is going to pay you.

Now you can rotate your 3 major keywords each over 10 days. At the end of the 1st month, you know what works best for you. Thats your KW to target.

3. During this testing stage, try working on your landers. Use pleasant web safe colors. To find what web safe colors are, just run a Yahoo/Google search and you should find substantial stuff.

Give your domain a short decent title like "the best payday loans" etc. Try using a friendly non controversial human face on your domain. Visitors get interested looking at a picture. You could also use related cartoons on certain serious themes to gain attention and break down the monotony. Like for example, if you have some cartoon depicting some funny words related to loans, you might get people to stay on and maybe explore your site links.

What I mean is, try whatever seems novel to you. You could hit up with a great picture that grabs people's attention. In some cases however, a human picture might not be appropriate. For example, a medical equipment, like an ECG machine. Here you might want to actually show an ECG machine. Think right and you will get things right.

4) Try different template and color combinations and make a note of your CTR. This gives you an idea of which templates work best. For example, if your domain is related to sports cars and speed vehicles, you may want to use vibrant red shades catering to a vastly younger audience.

5) If you are running a campaign, make effective use of keywords in your ad. This holds significance esp for your title line. Give a call to action. Words like New, Discover, Limited Time, Free etc are proven attention grabbers. Read up on some top advertising keywords which help you create good conversions. You and Only You can make or break your campaign with words. So use them well and you will succeed.

For those who think domaining is easy... ah.. its a nightmare. Its more like a full time job with extreme dedication.

Varon...HATS OFF for such a fabulous explanation!
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