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NO MORE 4 LETTER DOMAIN AVAILABLE TO REGISTER!
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Since early 2005, I have been investing/trading with 4 letter domain names. I started this thread due to the large variation in opinions on how many four letter domains there are available. When I started, I heard a range on viewpoints ranging from 200,000 down to nothing. What I learned that most people did not know how many were available.

Sources of Error for the estimates in number of available 4 letter domains include:

Traffic Testers: These are people who buy thousands of domains at a time to see if the domains are being visited and only keep the small percentage of domains that have regular visitors and cancel their orders for the domains that don't have a regular flow of visitors.

Inefficient ways of making estimates: There are over 450 thousand possible 4-Letter domains. There are short cuts that people can take in estimating the number that been registered that don't include all domains. One short cut that is often taken is for somebody to search through a list of previously available 4 letter names that they purchased (or got for free) and assume that all the names that are not on that list are registered.

People quoting old information:The variation in the number available changes all the time. Estimates that are months old are very different than up to date estimates.

People manipulating information for a sale:It definately is true that incorrect information on the available number of 4-letter domains can intensionally be manipulated to sell 4-letter domains at a higher price. Typically the lack of supply tends to motivate people to pay higher prices.

As a 4-letter domain trader, I believe that the information of how many 4-letter domains there are is extremely valuable for two main reasons. Firstly, my pricing of my names is subject to the amount of work it requires for customer to find for similar name. Secondly, if I want to increase my stock of 4-letter names than the information of how many there are at reg fee prices is essential.

I decided to update this thread when the number of available 4-letter domains dropped to the following levels:
22% Remaining - 25th January 2006
19% Remaining - 31st March 2006
16% Remaining - 29th June 2006
13% Remaining - 1st August 2006
10% Remaining - 15th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early April)
9% Remaining - 26th February 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early May)
8% Remaining - 2nd March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing in June)
7% Remaining - 21st March 2007 (crossed without traffic testing early July)
6% Remaining - 3rd July 2007(crossed without traffic testing some time in July)
5% Remaining - 1st August 2007(crossed without traffic testing August 11)
4% Remaining - 14th August 2007(crossed late August)
3% Remaining - 15th September 2007(crossed In September)
2% Remaining - 14th October 2007
1% Remaining - 31st October 2007
0% Remaining - 2nd November - COUNTDOWN COMPLETE!

Although, the number of available domains does sometime rise straight after it drops due to traffic testing and people dropping their domains, I don't consider it worth mentioning unless the rise is as significant as a 3% rise in the number of available domains.

Types of Four Letter Domains that have run out include:
- ALL OF THEM!

Since I started this thread important event about four letter domains that are worth mentioning happenned:

1: Late March/Early April 2006 there was a significant shift in the market for brandable (fake words) 4-letter domains and they started selling at significantly higher prices and the market for the names has been a lot more active ever since.

2: In July 2006, a namepros member 3par launched DYYO.com as a site committed to educating people about 4 letter domains. This is an excellent resource for those who are interested in 4 letter domain names.

3: In early February 2007. All the 4 letter domains starting with the letter A ran out.

4: wasistdas won QQNQ.COM, PCZV.COM & IQKE.COM for the competition for predicting when the 4 Letter domains would run out
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Initial Post
Less than 23% of the 4 letter domain names are unregistered. I thought I'd try to keep this thread updated every time I discover another 1% reduction. I am now routinely checking the percentage of unregisted 4 letter domains.
 
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floatingworld said:
DYYO is still holding out at 677.
DYYO I think is the 'official' announcer that the Fat Domain Lady is Singing.


Yeah, I'm pretty sure everyone is using DYYO.com as the "OFFICIAL" countdown.. Which is totally cool!
 
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328 left now

hey this is a slow death... not the big bang I was thinking it would be lol
 
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c4smok said:
328 left now

hey this is a slow death... not the big bang I was thinking it would be lol

any minute there may be the last shooter :hehe:
 
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c4smok said:
328 left now

hey this is a slow death... not the big bang I was thinking it would be lol

...don't worry, there will be 10,000 names in the aftermarket tomorrow to slow you up even more! :hehe:
 
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c4smok said:
328 left now

hey this is a slow death... not the big bang I was thinking it would be lol

It's really very slow.
But anything could happen in the next minute :)
 
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DotCN said:
It's really very slow.
But anything could happen in the next minute :)


yes, especially with Johnny-Norway (alias Vacuumer 1) :hehe:
 
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Game Is Going To Over Today....what Is Next Catch...

What Is The Future Of DYYO After All LLLL.coms Gone?
 
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floatingworld said:
...don't worry, there will be 10,000 names in the aftermarket tomorrow to slow you up even more! :hehe:

I would expect about 200k names pouring into the aftermarket within the next year. Many will be trying to sell large numbers of less quility names to buy fewer better quality ones, or simply to cover the reg fees.
Let's hope the demand goes up, maybe even more fresh domainers would be good for us, otherwise the big availability would drive the prices down..
just my 2c
 
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321 left..

still a going down =)
 
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ilcesco said:
I would expect about 200k names pouring into the aftermarket within the next year. Many will be trying to sell large numbers of less quility names to buy fewer better quality ones, or simply to cover the reg fees.
Let's hope the demand goes up, maybe even more fresh domainers would be good for us, otherwise the big availability would drive the prices down..
just my 2c

what is most likely is that:
1. anything dropped will be snapped up.
2. consolidators will step in at $10, $12 and $15 to purchase anything.
3. new market entrants will move in.
4. quality sales will float everything.
5. if the default price reaches $20 within 1 year, £30 within 2 years, then the hoovering will motor along as the renew price is covered.
 
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Sheesh - I came back here sure they all would be gone by now.

Again I point to that chart at DYYO.com. Four letter domains have been registered at a steady pace for at least two years, less available each month (except October, 2006 - Mobi time). While some (it may seem like many) will cash in in the next couple months, most LLLL owners are long term investors who have already paid one or two renewals on their names and are not going to sell. There was very little LLL.Mobi flipping right after the buyout.

For the archive:
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 28 (27 members and 1 guests)
 
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Can someone please post a list of what is left? I want to get some from the last 500 available (I would prefer something from last 100, it is more memoriable, but I think the last 100, when reached, will be gone in minutes).

By the way, I observed sharp rise of prices in TDNAM auction of exired LLLL.com. Yesterday I got around 10 domains at 10$+regfee, today lots of 20$+ bids. And nice names as ALAO.com are currentlz at 235$ with 6 hours to go.
 
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I blogged about it to lets help spread the news :p

~MG
 
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vlad74 said:
Can someone please post a list of what is left? I want to get some from the last 500 available (I would prefer something from last 100, it is more memoriable, but I think the last 100, when reached, will be gone in minutes).

By the way, I observed sharp rise of prices in TDNAM auction of exired LLLL.com. Yesterday I got around 10 domains at 10$+regfee, today lots of 20$+ bids. And nice names as ALAO.com are currentlz at 235$ with 6 hours to go.

Here is the list 321 available: http://www.startgt.com/llll.txt
 
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287 now
 
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floatingworld said:
what is most likely is that:
1. anything dropped will be snapped up.
2. consolidators will step in at $10, $12 and $15 to purchase anything.
3. new market entrants will move in.
4. quality sales will float everything.
5. if the default price reaches $20 within 1 year, £30 within 2 years, then the hoovering will motor along as the renew price is covered.

any sale in ebay will fetch $15 to $20 minimum after all 4 letters gone.
 
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clickcents said:
any sale in ebay will fetch $15 to $20 minimum after all 4 letters gone.

This depends on how many people put their domains on the market..
 
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I want to reg the last one :)

c4smok said:
This depends on how many people put their domains on the market..


certainly not me.
 
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italiandragon said:
I want to reg the last one :)


Me too. But it will be too high demand for the last ones (below 99 left), therefore :imho: it will be unrealistic.
 
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I have started to register some few more now.

275 Available.
 
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Going slow....

I contributed by taking the remaining with y and without fv, vf or vj.
 
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johnnywj said:
I have started to register some few more now.


WARNING: THE VACUUM HAS TURNED ON :)
 
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johnnywj said:
I have started to register some few more now.

275 Available.

Johnny, could you please make a short break after taking additional 175, I want to take some from the last 100!
 
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vlad74 said:
Johnny, could you please make a short break after taking additional 175, I want to take some from the last 100!
OK :hehe:
 
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vlad74 said:
Can someone please post a list of what is left? I want to get some from the last 500 available (I would prefer something from last 100, it is more memoriable, but I think the last 100, when reached, will be gone in minutes).

By the way, I observed sharp rise of prices in TDNAM auction of exired LLLL.com. Yesterday I got around 10 domains at 10$+regfee, today lots of 20$+ bids. And nice names as ALAO.com are currentlz at 235$ with 6 hours to go.


WHERE IS ALAO ?

edit: nevermind I found it....I was browsing only names under $100 , that`s why I could not see it.
 
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