Appraisal Scam - continues!
Hi
This scammer is such a pathetic loser, i almost feel sorry for him. Here are some snippets of his emails to me; the last one in particular is a cracker!
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I]11/4/06[/I]
Hello,
Did you get offers from other people already?
What is your price for the domain mentioned in the subject line?
I'm very interested in this name.
I run a software company. We develop client-server systems and databases in MS SQL and Delphi. Buying and selling domain names is not my main business. Just another way to invest money and make additional income.
Looking forward to do business with you.
Best regards,
Paul Hansen Ph.D.
CEO
DIT Engineering
How about 9,500 USD? Ok?
Did you use escrow.com before? I think this is the safest place for domain/money transfer.
Do you have an appraisal certificate?
Domain name is an investment for me. In other words I'm going to sell your name later and make a profit. If I overpay I won't be able to make a profit in the future. It's very important for you and me to know the current market value of your domain.
Of course, we must be sure that you are engaging a reputable appraisal company. I heard many appraisal companies often made inaccurate appraisals. I will only accept appraisals from independent sources I know and trust.
To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies in a forum
http://domaintalk.ourplace.com/Archive/69047.htm
Juck check this posting.
If the appraisal comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. I also hope you can give me 10% - 15% discount of the appraised value.
After I get an appraisal from you we'll continue our negotiations.
How do you prefer to get paid:
www.escrow.com,
www.PayPal.com check or wire?
Hope we can come to an agreement fast.
Looking forward to your reply.
Sedo is a good broker. Unfortunately , Sedo is not acceptable as an
appraiser because your names are listed with them and they are not
independent. They are interested in earning 10% commission on every sale. I
need appraisals from a company which is not interested in
selling your domains.
I heard many appraisal companies often made inaccurate appraisals. So I
cannot accept appraisal from each and every site. I will only accept
appraisals from independent appraisal companies I know and trust.
12/4/06
I don't know why. I'm not the owner of the forum. I think this is one company. May eb I'm wrong.
I earn enough money and run my own company so I don't have any interest in appraisal companies.
I thought about Afternic, but found their service inaccurate and automated.
Moreover, here is the link about complaints to Afternic at
http://www.igoldrush.com/links3.htm
"Capsule Review: After lots of complaints, Afternic is no longer a recommended service. We will re-review the service in the near future."
So Afternic.com is NOT acceptable.
Reading responses from experienced sellers I was impressed by one reply:
"Many Internet users are not smart enough and popular domain brokers are
using this fact to make money. They offer them cheap appraisal services. But
if their customers would have something in their heads they'd understand
experts could not make a professional research for $15-$20. These appraisals
are made by machines. Easy money for such appraisers as
http://www.Afternic.com and several other major brokers that offer cheap
auto-generated appraisals. In my eyes, all services under $50-$55 are not
manual and the results are generated by special scripts. I don't trust
auto-generated appraisals."
The same is true for GoDaddy and SEDO. Their services are not manual. They are just collecting money using their well-known names.
I heard many appraisal companies often overpriced domains. So I cannot
accept appraisal from each and every site.
To avoid mistakes I asked about reputable appraisers in a forum. Several
experts recommended me AllDomains' appraisal service -
http://www.allfordomains.com/appraise.asp as a fast, accurate and
non-expensive manual service.
I also trust the manual appraisal service from
http://www.DomainMart.com but
it's very expensive - $200/hour. This service was also recommended by many
people but I thought it was too expensive. But if you can afford
DomainMart.com's fee it's ok with me.
13/4/06
Thanks. I also asked about other domain appraisers. GreatDomains.com,
NetworkSolution and .DomainMart.com were recommended as trusted sources. I
may accept appraisals from these sources too.
I will obtain an appraisal from one of those sources myself. But I will not
send this certificate to you, because you may use this appraisal to promote
your name or sell it to somebody else. Two independent appraisals will give
us a better feeling of what your name is really worth.
15/4/06
I've already bought opt-in lists from
http://www.1-bulk-email-mailing-address-list.com site to promote your
domains.
I invested about $250 in these lists. Unfortunately, I cannot list your
names with brokers and auctions because I'm not the owner. You can list
your names with brokers. We should list names with at least three-four
brokers. The more exposure the better. Moreover, using different selling
strategies we can achieve better results.
Just email me your auction links and I'll use them in my email campaign.
Looks like many buyers prefer to make deals through brokers because it's
more secure.
17/4/06
I've already invested $250 in promotion (opt-in lists from
http://www.1-bulk-email-mailing-address-list.com ) and don't want to take additional risks for some time. I also paid for a second appraisal. You don't need too invest money in promotion so it will be reasonable to give me a time to find a good buyer. As soon as I find a buyer I'll buy your name myself. I hope our cooperation will make us good money. Thank you for understanding.
18/4/06
Please don't make me laugh. I run my own company and earn enough money. So I'm not interested to work as a sale agent of appraisal company.
But now I see that you have problems with selling and it's a bad sign. I don't want to lose my money. That's why I offered you to find a buyer.
If I'd work as an agent you'd never receiuve a response from me. I'm a honest businessman and I want to work wth you. I don't care about losers who don't kniw how to make money. If they think I'm a sale agent, that's ok.
Looks like a bogus joke. I should investigate it.
Our small software company is based in Norway
Norway
P.B. 305
7301 Orkanger
19/4/06
Who told you my friend, it was such a successful software company? I wrote about small software company. We are not so successful as Microsoft or Oracle.
I sent you the street address. Why do you need PO box? Your email server was shut down and you want to send us a regular mail
? Just send it to our street addres.
I also want to know about you my french friend, as much as possible.
Your real address. Your sexual orienation. Hope you are not a gay like many men in France. I also must know if you are a real owner. I hope you are not trying to sell a hijacked name? I read about it on the Internet.
You also have a very strange name for a person living in France. I thought you were from Mexico or Spain. Do you have an immigration card?
I think your next answer will be via regular mail