.co .CO - The Discussion, Showcase and Sales Report Thread

[TOXX]

Well, it seems like Colombia will be releasing .CO to the internet market:
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http://www.mincomunicaciones.gov.co...ge=./mods/contenido/noticia_user_view&id=1043
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This could truly be a big competitor to .COM (especially being a "typo").
I would say with proper guidance .CO could REALLY have a bright future!
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Let me know your thoughts please.

 

[NPer]

Lisa is terrible and I'll bet the farm that lotion, jelly, and peanut get higher bids. Why? Because they're actual products that fit well with the .co extention. Time will tell who can size up the situation better!

Don't get defensive on my opinion about Lisa vs Lotion/Peanut... Lisa in my eyes is of a greater quality. If I had $30 and was told to choose only one of the following:

1. Lotion
2. Peanut
3. Lisa

I will spend that $30 on Lisa.CO... I don't think I need to give more examples of Lisa! I don't even know her, and I am writing all about her already.

If you want to win the contest on "sizing up situations", be my guest! That's why I don't take chances like this with my money on extensions like .CO. I have nothing to prove when I buy a quality .COM/.ORG. I don't have to size up with other domainers dealing in those extensions. You certainly feel the need to with .CO! :hearts:

If Lisa fetches more than $100, I would say it's a good sale considering it's .CO.

Regards,
:wave:

 

[bmugford]

I'd add that, since .CO is a new TLD (I look at it as an experiment), anyone investing in it should be already investing in other more established extensions.

Even Juan Calle told domainers to stick to .COM -

"Yup, if you're a domainer, listen to those guys. Stick to .COM."

http://www.cointernet.co/blog/blip-radar

Brad

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Lisa is terrible and I'll bet the farm that lotion, jelly, and peanut get higher bids. Why? Because they're actual products that fit well with the .co extention. Time will tell who can size up the situation better!

LISA is the #11 most common female first name
0.704% of females in the US are named LISA.
Around 862,400 US females are named LISA.

On top of that I sold Lisa.info for $2995.

Names have a certain vanity appeal, and many companies are branded around a name.

Brad

 

[emjohn]

Nubi,

What you've done here is take a single statistic and blown it up into something it is not. I don't know what you are trying to get at, but given the logic of it, I'm understanding that you would see these keywords as worthless in .com, as well, based on your reasoning. However, we know this is fallacious. Product and social domains have multiple uses and multiple kinds of end-users.

How many stereo-oriented sites are there are the internet? Thousands. This is a category killer. How many equity companies? Thousands. How many garbage oriented/removal companies? How many people have garbage and old crap that needs to be taken away? Thousands (everybody pretty much). What about Equipment.co? Do you know anything in this world that requires equipment? How about everything. A category killer and it doesn't get much better than that.

So Nub, I'm not sure where you get your understanding of "quality" domains, but it might be something to find out what keywords have value and why instead of extrapolating on some search statistic. Domains are about understanding business possibilities and what people want. 95% of these domains are goods or service-related.

Ya might look over at BMugford's site. His collection is a pretty good one in terms of understanding what kinds of keywords sell and why.

As a side note, I was just in contact with a Sedo broker. There's a name I might bid on in this auction. He told me the senior managers at Sedo have put a huge restriction on this .co auction. It looks as if they will only be accepting one word product and social oriented words, as a rule. So if someone wants to submit fashionablerugsinGreece.co, don't be surprised if it gets rejected. It appears they are going the tried, tested and true route for keywords in this auction.

I am afraid "hotelroom" is not the only weak one, I just pointed it out as an example. If anyone wants to secure a good keyword, Sedo's auction will not be the place to go to. Better off contacting .CO owners and negotiating with them really.

Here are the names I posted earlier, ranked in order of popularity according to Google's Adwords Keyword Tool (from strongest to weakest):

Keyword Exact Match GMS Competition
set 301,000 Low
salud 135,000 Low
equity 110,000 Low
lisa 110,000 Low
garbage 90,500 Low
stereo 74,000 Low
equipment 74,000 Low
finder 74,000 Low
nickel 74,000 Low
jelly 60,500 Low
gear 60,500 Low
lemonade 49,500 Low
carrot 49,500 Low
sneaker 49,500 Medium
pretzel 40,500 Low
fountain 40,500 Medium
kettle 40,500 Low
peanut 33,100 Low
plastics 22,200 Medium
seller 18,100 Low
lotion 18,100 Low
habla 14,800 Low
hotelroom 880 Medium


This is more of a "Dictionary .CO Auction" rather than a premium auction! These words can be purchased in any extension really.
Regards,
:wave:

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I think what he is saying, rather, is that they don't want .co to be a domainer's extension. I don't blame them. They've said from the very beginning they don't want people buying .co in large quantities to sit on. Squatting has traditionally been the playground of .com domainers and resellers. Juan has his eye on the end-users and creative development, not squatting for profit.

That was a great sale you made, Brad. Lisa.info for $3000. Great name with great stats and lots of possibilities. However, with .info, maybe that's more of a testament to your selling ability than the quality of the extension. .info registrations are increasing for one reason and one reason only, "Oh wow, what a cheap registration it is, it's only 99 cents. I will register it.". In any case, Lisa is a banger keyword.

It's true about the branding of good vanity names. Example: "Introducing 'Lisa', the new fragrance by Chanel." Tons of possibilities there. Lisa.co would work really well as the domain for a company based on the 'Lisa' fragrance.

Even Juan Calle told domainers to stick to .COM -

"Yup, if you're a domainer, listen to those guys. Stick to .COM."

http://www.cointernet.co/blog/blip-radar

Brad

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LISA is the #11 most common female first name
0.704% of females in the US are named LISA.
Around 862,400 US females are named LISA.

On top of that I sold Lisa.info for $2995.

Names have a certain vanity appeal, and many companies are branded around a name.

Brad

 

[Keith]

On top of that I sold Lisa.info for $2995.

Names have a certain vanity appeal, and many companies are branded around a name.

Brad

I'm not sure how your .info sale has any relation to the .co value? Great domain you sold though!

I myself like first name domains. Who knows, maybe lisa.co will sell for a bundle but with .co I like the product domains better.

 

[bmugford]

I'm not sure how your .info sale has any relation to the .co value? Great domain you sold though!

I myself like first name domains. Who knows, maybe lisa.co will sell for a bundle but with .co I like the product domains better.

The relevance is the keyword, not the extension.

You said above - "Lisa is terrible".

You are underrating the demand for popular names.
I have sold many, in many extensions.

Brad

 

[Keith]

The relevance is the keyword, not the extension.

You said above - "Lisa is terrible".

Brad

Relevance is the keyword not the extention? If that's your belief than you would invest in .so, .am, .in, .co... Have you registered "Lisa" in every available extention?

My take on "Lisa" is not that it's terrible. I'd take Lisa.com in a heartbeat. My comment was aimed specifically at the .co auction. I sold maryjane.co for $500 so of course names will sell when the right buyer comes along. However, I believe product domains have a greater chance of success vs. first names when we're talking .co.

 

[bmugford]

Relevance is the keyword not the extention? If that's your belief than you would invest in .so, .am, .in, .co... Have you registered "Lisa" in every available extention?

Keith, that is a ridiculous premise.

Just because a keyword is good, does not mean it is good with some totally obscure extension.

The further you go down the extension totem pole, the better a keyword has to be.

There are very few keywords that have value in almost any extension (Poker, Sex, etc).

However, if Lisa.co was available to hang reg I would certainly reg it.

Brad

 

[johname]

maryjane.co for $500 so of course names will sell when the right buyer comes along. However, I believe product domains

I think maryjane is a product, you just ended up selling to a real mj lol

I would free like crap if Lisa.co sold for just $100 its a no brainer reg

 

[Keith]

I think maryjane is a product, you just ended up selling to a real mj lol

I would free like crap if Lisa.co sold for just $100 its a no brainer reg

Lol a product indeed :lala:

What you and brad have just said I would agree with...if it was available to register...a no brainer reg.

Buying it at auction may cost a few bucks more than reg fee. So how much are you guys willing to pay?

 

[emjohn]

If a company comes out with a product named Lisa, do you think Lisa.co is not worth anything? Come on.

Anthony.co sold recently at reseller price for $313. I like Lisa a lot better. Short, easy and a very feminine name. I think it's worth $800 reseller and not less than $2500 end-user. A smaller company could definitely afford it. Just my opinion.

Some new additions to the .co auction.


jetskis.co
feather.co
juan.co
microwaves.co
church.co
ovens.co
ceramics.co
seals.co
control.co

Lol a product indeed :lala:

What you and brad have just said I would agree with...if it was available to register...a no brainer reg.

Buying it at auction may cost a few bucks more than reg fee. So how much are you guys willing to pay?

 

[MicroGuy]

However, I believe product domains have a greater chance of success vs. first names when we're talking .co.

Incorrect. Legitimate companies that do their due diligence will never invest and build out on a risky and foreign ccTLD. This is an inescapable fact only ignored by those with wishful thinking not based in reality. If anything vanity names will perform better in these niche extensions since individuals have less to lose if the registration requirement(s) suddenly change, become impractical, or if the extension fails to gain additional traction.

 

[emjohn]

Tell that to the people who just bought DuiLawyers.co, meet.me or OnlineCasino.co. I can name many other ccTlds with very high sales. There are many successful companies based on ccTLDs. Sorry, but your opinion is fairly archaic, IMO.

Incorrect. Legitimate companies that do their due diligence will never invest and build out on a risky and foreign ccTLD. This is an inescapable fact only ignored by those with wishful thinking not based in reality. If anything vanity names will perform better in these niche extensions since individuals have less to lose if the registration requirement suddenly change, become impractical, or if the extension fails to gain additional traction.

 

[MicroGuy]

Tell that to the people who just bought DuiLawyers.co, meet.me or OnlineCasino.co. I can name many other ccTlds with very high sales. There are many successful companies based on ccTLDs. Sorry, but your opinion is fairly archaic, IMO.

It took me several years to figure this out but what I'm telling you is true. There will be a few companies willing to slide down the slippery .CO slope, but they will be few and far between. And most will backtrack to .COM once they recognize their mistake. Money can still be made in this extension, but it is critical to understand this point before investing. IMO.

 

[emjohn]

Hey Bud,

It may be true for you. .com is a tried and true staple in the industry, that's clear. I've been on the net in some capacity for the last 15 years. I can tell you innovation wins out in the end, in terms of entrepreneurial satisfaction. However, I do acknowledge that if one buys a ccTLD like .co, he or she should have a solid plan for it otherwise it could be too risky. If you have a very good business or idea, it can be a benefit having a .ly to stick out from the crowd.

Look at the recent surge in .me and you'll understand my point. Great names being sold at great prices. And why? Because Meet.me makes sense and is relevant. I won't forget that name. And it beats the hell out of meetme.com. The .com sounds too computerized, in this case.

It took me several years to figure this out but what I'm telling you is true. There will be a few companies willing to slide down the slippery .CO slope, but they will be few and far between. And most will backtrack to .COM once they recognize their mistake. IMO.

 

[Oppinus]

Legitimate companies that do their due diligence will never invest and build out on a risky and foreign ccTLD.

...what I'm telling you is true. There will be a few companies willing to slide down the slippery .CO slope, but they will be few and far between.

Very flexible relationship to the truth
Now, what is truth in you opinion? That the companies will NEVER invest in .co, or that there will be A FEW companies who invest? This is quite an opposite statement, dont you think?

What do you think of companies like:
Movistar.co
Telefonica.co
CineColombia.co
They are multi billion dollar companies. Dont you consider them serious enough to know what they do? Or maybe you own a bigger company and know better? Or maybe only US companies are "legitimate"?

 

[johname]

Telefonica.co
CineColombia.co
They are multi billion dollar companies. Dont you consider them serious enough to know what they do?

These sound like compaines that would have a natural interest in the .co country, which is not the original point

 

[Oppinus]

These sound like compaines that would have a natural interest in the .co country, which is not the original point

I understand. They are not "legitimate". I will refuse to take money from them

 

[Keith]

Seems as though some folks here have to wait for the stars to align before buying a domain. It's the wrong extention, not enough monthly searches, it's a bad keyword...

I feel it, I like it, I buy it!

 

[emjohn]

Keith,

you come out with some zingers sometimes, but wow, they are sometimes quite true.

You have hit the nail on the head about the non-entrepreneurial type. Where the rain is always falling, people will find a reason not to do anything.

Seems as though some folks here have to wait for the stars to align before buying a domain. It's the wrong extention, not enough monthly searches, it's a bad keyword...

I feel it, I like it, I buy it!

 

[Mize]

Looks like visa will use v.me thus they feel like the positives of a ccTLD outweigh the negatives

 

[dragtastic]

Jelly.co is also taken.



That's the point of all auctions.

This was supposed to be the best .CO's listed. You say that Sedo did a nice job of not accepting BS names- I think they pretty much sucked at that nice job.

As I mentioned earlier:
Equity, Equipment and Lisa are good ones-in my eyes... Equity and Equipment- great keyword and works very well with the .COmpany hack. Many people are interested in services from firms trading/investing funds into Equities. Many people are interested in a one-stop Equipment hire/purchase store. Lisa is nice, it could be that Lisa has a bakery which is a private Company... Lisa.CO! And in my example, Lisa would be a great brandable domain!

Now do the same with: Jelly, Hotelroom, Lotion, Peanut, Habla and compare them with the three that I pointed out in the previous paragraph. Really now?

It's not a premium auction. That's my opinion. All auctions have a purpose. I can't disagree with that. I do disagree with Sedo labeling it as Premium-and I am stating my opinion in this thread as I am allowed to.

Regards,
:wave:

Sedo can only post domains that people actually submit.
If someone owned a great premium CO domain then I highly doubt they would submit it into a no reserve auction.
If that were the case, then why doesn't Mike Mann submit a few of his "premium" domains.

Sedo can only accept "premium" domains as they get submitted - otherwise there would not be many auctions, which translates to less $$ for sedo.

 

[JB Lions]

Looks like visa will use v.me thus they feel like the positives of a ccTLD outweigh the negatives

I read an SEO article a few months ago I found interesting. You know how .co registry was touting .co for Company right. The article was talking about how it was easier getting links into .me vs .co because people are more likely to link to a person vs. a company. And you see some of that with the Occupy (fill in the blank) stuff and some of the other things going on because of the down economy. People like to take their frustrations out on big companies, blame them for things, instead of handling their own business.

So it's understandable why a company like Visa would go with a .me. in this case, besides the nice single letter. Business want to connect to people, they want to get personal. They want their business/money.

 

[emjohn]

Hey Mize,

Yep, I saw that yesterday. V.me, great name. Multi-million/billion name. More personal and memorable than V.com. .me has an advantage that it will always sound like a personal service. They made a good choice, IMO.

V.co would be good for a milk company, IMO.... Although Visa could have had success with that one too. Visa company, no-brainer. But when all is said and done, V.me, the best.

Looks like visa will use v.me thus they feel like the positives of a ccTLD outweigh the negatives

 

[MeanMrMustard]

As far as names vs. keywords go I'll throw in my 2 cents. EVERY .co domain I have sold has been a name domain. Since google has explicitly stated that the importance of perfect keyword domains has been "tuned down" it is no longer AS important to have perfect generic keyword domains. This is especially relevant to .co since i highly doubt there is a lot of direct navigation. Names, however, are always important and will always be important to people whether it's their name or the brand of their company. I have a few keyword domains but most of my domains are names and highly brandable names for companies like Greek god names and the like. For example, I recently bought at GD auctions closeouts valhalla.co, warped.co and megawatt.co. They are "terrible" keywords, were each $12, and I guarantee that I will get at least $500 for each of them. It might not be this year or next but I will absolutely make money on them because they are very brandable. That's my strategy with .co. I do have comics.co which I embarrassingly paid to much for (~3000 EUR) but I planned on developing it which I'm not going to do now. I don't think keywords are as important to people as brand, personal or otherwise. You just have to watch out for ™ issues.

my 2 cents.

 

[emjohn]

Comics.co...very nice. Don't think you overpaid. Thing is....what ya gonna do with it?

QUOTE=MeanMrMustard;4219350]As far as names vs. keywords go I'll throw in my 2 cents. EVERY .co domain I have sold has been a name domain. Since google has explicitly stated that the importance of perfect keyword domains has been "tuned down" it is no longer AS important to have perfect generic keyword domains. This is especially relevant to .co since i highly doubt there is a lot of direct navigation. Names, however, are always important and will always be important to people whether it's their name or the brand of their company. I have a few keyword domains but most of my domains are names and highly brandable names for companies like Greek god names and the like. For example, I recently bought at GD auctions closeouts valhalla.co, warped.co and megawatt.co. They are "terrible" keywords, were each $12, and I guarantee that I will get at least $500 for each of them. It might not be this year or next but I will absolutely make money on them because they are very brandable. That's my strategy with .co. I do have comics.co which I embarrassingly paid to much for (~3000 EUR) but I planned on developing it which I'm not going to do now. I don't think keywords are as important to people as brand, personal or otherwise. You just have to watch out for ™ issues.

my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]