This is very true. I checked those threads looong time already... and this thread is following the very same pattern as those other threads.
The signs:
1. At the beginning-"good keywords" are regged, later on "bad keywords" are regged.
2. The "good keywords" get sold for below the valuations given by the pro-extension-domainer; some even sell at below reg fee. This is happening in dot co too.
3. Timing of posts are very close at the beginning, and start to gain hours in between posts as the thread grows at a slow pace-even days, weeks, months in between posts... We can see this same trend with .co... check it out!!
4. Fanboys in all the threads end up saying years later that .xx is heavily undervalued.. and then other extension fanboys tell them, that their investments are crap... e.g. .co owners are saying .tv is not as great as .co-check the threads out if you don't believe me.
5. All of the extensions were supposedly GREAT COMPETITION for .COM!! hmmm....
6. The investors begin to question their investment, and come back to the sad reality that the experienced domainers (who the pro-.xx owners called ".xx haters") were correct, and they end up having realistic debates with these people of the viability of the extension(people that they labeled as "jealous" or "haters")... then do they only give in to reason...
Then only-do they finally realize the error of their ways!!
Pro-dot-co boys and girls-Do yourself a favor, read the other threads.... or are you going to say that "those extensions are crap"... I am sure a fanboy or two from those threads will have something to say about .co.
One can't have a proper debate here-people use opinions as facts, and the dismiss facts being presented before them- claiming they are myths.
I have .co domains-but I am realistic. In fact-if I had to post my .co domains here, I am sure a pro-dot-co valuation expert would tell me I could easily get high $x,xxx- low $xx,xxx for each and every one of my dot co's! (Because I saw valuations here for mediocre and bad names-and that would just make my .co domains much better. Yes-they were pre-orders from Landrush. But I know the real value-I am realistic.
Nubiano :wave:
Birds of a feather flock together...and how the mudslinging becomes a bad habit. If y'all thing you have coralled "reality", think again. All the arguments i hear are so specious it's hard to read.
Hair-splitting (ie going back to old threads, scrutinizing insignificant details and looking to those as pointers for the future) is such a waste of time. Yesterday was yesterday and today is today. I would hate to see if you ever had a failed business what you would do if you wanted to start a new business. You wouldn't because the failure in the past, according to your logic, would necessiate future failure. Therefore, don't try any new business after your first has failed. How absurd.
If y'all want to keep comparing extensions, that's your prerogative. But mind this: the focus here is on the company .co and anyone who sees that doesn't really care about "past threads". What an aweful waste of time combing through old threads. Ever occur to you that other past extensions had poor management? Had poor infrastructure? Had poor management? Had poor advertising? Had poor staff? Had poor cashflow? Had poor market share? The list goes on and on why companies fail. Where can one even begin to compare? And why should you? Maybe if a person is a bit of a Fraidy Cat. He/she will always go looking to the past to help them cope with the fear of the present and future. This stae of affairs breeds a sterile economy.
Any one here criticizing .co supporters, I would love to hear your first hand experience with your own start-up business venture, which .co is. Only firsthand please, not armchair quarterbacking. There is a truckload of glibness being flung about here.
Nubiano, take a look at any chart of any new, start-up company. There is always a rise in a hype face and then the line comes down and plateaus. At some point this will happen with .co. The only question will be where that plateau will be. That plateau, if the company is successful, will be followed by a steady rise. This whole phase thing is not revolutionary. And as a matter of fact, reason has nothing to do with it. It's just the course of a new business.
As far as appraisals are concerned, it's a fairly easy thing. There already have been many
.co sales and rough estimates of the prices for .co have been made (see Michael Mann). Essentially we are talking about abstract prices and the need for a market maker, much like in stock trading. We will see in the next few months how valuable this .co "stock" is and what the Market Makers (like Michael Mann) deem the prices to be. The trickle-down affect will follow.
Last point, please don't compare "experienced domainers" ie default .com coat-tailers, with free enterprise entrepreneurs. The latter requires a totally different mindset from the former.
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I agree with Nubiano. We all are proud of our .CO acquisitions but we have to be careful and realistic about them. As an investor, obviously I'm confident in this TLD and I'm sure it is a better candidate than previous ccTLD's (.me, .mobi, etc.) to become accepted worldwide, but only time can tell how it will evolve. For the same reason, being sure that it won't have any success is pointless.
I'd say that's a pretty sober perspective. If anyone ever thought there was something "guaranteed" in this, I would question their thinking. But that having been said, the success of anything depends on fortitude, and I often get the feeling
that the typical Fraidy cats come out in droves to attempt to quash something that may threaten them, in some way. It's to this type of mudslinging I speak against, not to rational thought.
The hype phase is a necessary evil in every start-up. Hopefully, people realize this and are not naive to believe that there will be $1,000,000 sales everyday. That's a kind of dreaming that doesn't benefit anyone in the long-term. At the end of the day, all requires hard work.
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Certainly they are some of the worst names I have seen in 6 months or more. To marry up 3d and solar junk with .co, yes I am having seizures.
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There is nobody to convince aside from some tech people because they are the only people who know of this extension outside of Republic of Colombia.
Anyone would think this extension is popular from the way some post.
Relatively, speaking, it IS popular! Man, it's only been out for 5 months, has 620,000 regs and has some great auctions and a SuperBowl commercial on the horizon. Are you kidding me? Comparing to .com again? Give me a break. How is your start-up company going, by the way?
I know you are being facetious about colombia :bah
but the way a person dwells on something like a "Colombia" factor might lead one to think of words like bigotry.
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It certainly is,again-Caveat Emptor.
And I quite like .co and have a few but there are many guys here banking their house on a new hype that is not what it is sold as.
All power to the .co management,they threw out the bait and hooked a lot of fish.
What fool has banked their house on it? that's a bit of an overstatement, IMO. I really don't know anyone who did that. Even if you reg'd 100 .co's. that's $3000. If you didn't have the money to spend, shouldn't have spent it. That says nothing about .co at all. That just speaks to poor money management and uncalculated risk.
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It's always the same tune, give it some time, give it more time... renew for a year and wait, then another... waste money on regs, waste further money on renewals... eventually the majority of speculators in alternate extensions let their names drop because they can't afford to wait forever to make a return that may never materialize.
Usually domainers don't have a 5- or 10-year investment horizon, they need revenue to sustain their portfolios.
I don't always agree with Snoop but he's 100% right in saying it's important to be making money today and not after tomorrow. Hoping for the best seldom works as a business strategy.
Within a year I would expect we won't have conversation at all because this thread will have died out like the others (check out the .asia .mobi .tel .eu etc threads).
1. Rome wasn't built in a day and patience is a virtue, in any endeavour.
2. It's not revolutionary that threads "die down". Soon, when .co is more established, it will no longer be a new or hot topic. Thus is the ways of media. The sustainability of the .co company is the point, not whether some thread thrives. Whether a .co thread is active or not will really make little difference at the end of the day. The word BottomLine comes to mind.
