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Show me a valuable domain and let's discuss....
There should be no appraisal for domains... only websites worth the appraisal...
There should be no appraisal for domains... only websites worth the appraisal...
Seems like good topics are getting hard to come by.
Show me a valuable domain and let's discuss....
There should be no appraisal for domains... only websites worth the appraisal...
That's like saying that land isn't worth anything unless it has a house built on it...
But a good domain, it's valuable all by itself... Your sites are examples of lame domains...
I just provided you a valuable domain tell me why that name sold for 23000 haustechnik.com 23000 today
You came to a domain forum to make claims without backup. Why are domains worthless? What's your proof then? I make a living buying/selling domains...
Once again, an ad hominem argument which is highly ironic when you clearly don't understand what you do for a living.You are just mad because you instantly lost. Hate the game not the player...
You do gamble. You have invested in sites and domains without any guarantee you will recover your original investment or make a profit. That's gambling my friend.
He doesn't have to prove anything. He made the opening qualifying statement and the burden of prove now lays with all the responders, who, to this point, have done a God awful job of doing so. All I see are ad hominem attacks and pure fallacies.This is what you need to do to prove your point.
dfwuj5te8deqw9r43jnfgd989t4gfrt43fse.info
and make a very popular site of it.
Then sell it at least for $xx,xxx.
Until a buyer comes along either willing to pay the seller price, or come to an agreement with the seller, domains and sites can be said to be at a point in time as worth nothing.
Funny... I thought that most of the ridiculous nonsense has come from the people replying to him. Don't try to convince him of something you clearly can't prove is true. That just makes you look silly.is to make a complete non-sense ridiculous statement thread and see 10's of us to reply to it trying to convince the OP that the Earth is round!
best post in this thread imo. The intrinsic value of any domain is 0, demand from other people is the only way a domain has value.
Go to purple.com and tell me if that is useful!? Once again the domain name itself is not the thing of usefulness, but what is at that address. So you put value on a name that resolves to nothing useful? The domain could be anything and offer value, but once again the domain isn't useful, what is on it is. Since you guys like ridiculous real world analogies lets say you look up the name of a doctors surgery because you are feeling ill and you get there and it is entirely something different. Is the address valuable then?Domains are not useless. Because you need a domain to resolve your website IP address, so people can easily find you.
Unfortunately, domain names in specific extensions are just one, and only one, in this planet. Once you got it, no one else can own a copy of it.
Only of they are locked into the ridiculous domainer mentality. Anyone smart would hand reg a domain that has something to do with what they want to do and build something of use on that and outrank the domainer in no time.So if more than one 1 person wants to own exactly the same domain name, then it begins to have COMMERCIAL VALUE. Because you can SELL that domain to the other guy who needs it.
For many people who own GARBAGE domains, you can PROJECT the image that your domain is valuable
Put purple.com on the market, if no one bids on it, then it 'has no value'.
That's your value on it.Otoh, I'm sure it will close in the low 5 figures at the very least.
And as for "it's not property, it's a lease" - might surprise you to learn a lot of commercial real estate is still on lease from local governments, doesn't affect the value of that land.
@firefly
I don't have the time or the patience to highlight your lengthy posts here. Just to say a lot of the statements that you make are totally untrue and you seem to say them with such authority that could mislead a lot of newbies reading this forum - I hope for their sake they won't take this stuff as gospel
Thank you for proving my point Samit. Until someone gives it what they think it is worth, it has no value.
Just to say a lot of the statements that you make are totally untrue and you seem to say them with such authority that could mislead a lot of newbies reading this forum - I hope for their sake they won't take this stuff as gospel
They gave away land in the US initially, does that mean land 'has no intrinsic value'?
Please do some research and work out why they did this instead of throwing rubbish out there.
That's like saying in the supermarket only the things people buy have value, the ones that just lie on the shelf 'have no value'.
Funnily enough yes. What happens to a company that can't sell it's goods? Is that the best you have - honestly?
Sorry but in the real world things don't work like that.
Funnily enough, using your example from above, that is exactly how the world works.
Put purple.com on the market, if no one bids on it, then it 'has no value'
firefly's whole domains aren't valuable by themselves, is silly.
Enlighten me in a logical, factual, and non emotional way, that domains have value other than the value attached to them by those who buy, or wish to buy them (this in itself indicates in itself that before this point, domains have no intrinsic value) . This could be interesting.
I might build a house - but technically it has no 'value' at this point. I then sell the house and it suddenly has 'value'.
You seem to be confused by the difference between a DOMAIN NAME and a WEBSITE.Go to purple.com and tell me if that is useful!? Once again the domain name itself is not the thing of usefulness, but what is at that address. So you put value on a name that resolves to nothing useful? The domain could be anything and offer value, but once again the domain isn't useful, what is on it is.
I think his point is that if we took that approach to things, nothing would have value. Nothing technically has 'value' until it has a value assigned to it e.g. a supermarket saying that a melon costs $x - that is then the value of the melon.
All domains have 'value' - the value for most domains is the reg fee (or less) you paid for the domain.
To exist, a domain must have value because someone deemed it worthwhile to register that domain.
In conclusion, I don't think I've ever written the word 'value' so many times in a single post.
1) Pintrest, facebook, google, wikipedia were all reasonably short and memorable names before they were developed and promoted into what they are.Pintrest, facebook, google, the onion, et al. What do they have in common? I'll tell you. They had no inherent value until someone built something of worth on them. Therefore, your argument is invalid. Strange that domainers pose a question to which the answer is obvious and yet, have the hide to tell other people that they should think before they speak. Wikipedia is a prime example of a site that regularly outranks exact match domains simply because the value of the information that is present.
Proof it.
Claim without proof is nothing
You seem to be confused by the difference between a DOMAIN NAME and a WEBSITE.
I highlighted above in your comment, in which you generously used the English word "useful" several times.
Most humans cannot remember IP addresses.
The more a Domain Name can be REMEMBERED, the more people would WANT to use that domain name.
So even though a Domain Name points to a website that does not contain any CONTENT, it can already be USEFUL and VALUABLE by the mere fact that the Domain Name is easier to remember than its corresponding IP address.
If i want to search for PORN, the domain name SEX.COM is very easy to remember.
And dear dark lord, it is certainly much, much easier to remember than http://173.199.146.40.
The fact that Domain Names help you remember things, that alone makes Domain Names USEFUL and VALUABLE..... even without content.
This kind of argument, is a CONSUMER-ORIENTED argument.
A Domainer argument, revolves around the notion on whether (1) a Domain Name is easy to remember or not; (2) it is brandable/catchy name, which can be utilized for product branding purposes.
Your brand of logic would also argue that MONEY is useless, unless YOU SPEND IT!
Who are you to ask my privacy? heck, even a lawyer can't ask me what I have...
To say that a domain has real value just because someone thinks it is worth picking up in the hopes that it may make them some money, or a sale is no better than betting on black at the casino. Regardless of research, we still buy clunkers, unless you are some sort of demigod.
So are you saying that the development, marketing, and content make them valuable which they weren't in the beginning since you, or anyone else here didn't register them?1) Pintrest, facebook, google, wikipedia were all reasonably short and memorable names before they were developed and promoted into what they are.
Because I said I did it, am I committed to prove it? I see you are losing an argument so I'll just sit and wait here...If you are going to make a baseless claim, don't be surprised when people question its validity.
Because I said I did it, am I committed to prove it? I see you are losing an argument so I'll just sit and wait here...
And oh, I almost forgot about this thread until someone who makes sense posted everything... I'll just watch here
Don't hide behind my opinions. By the way, guys like Sabre aren't losing. I hardly see this as an argument - more a discussion when it comes to logically thinking people that are willing to share differing points of view.
It's amazing to watch this thread slowly mutate into such an array of controversy.
When in reality, the original post was just another angry rant over receiving worthless appraisals for posted domains.
The writing was on the wall with the OP.
http://www.namepros.com/namepros-in...-domain-appraisal-folder-is-losing-value.html
I see many nonsense posts like $0, not developed, not .com, etc. people saying these things are either dumb or just compiling number of posts.
Why ask for a developed domain when it is a domain appraisal folder. If is it developed, it is not just a domain anymore, right?
With the above argument, even if you post a newly-registered car.com, a dumb appraiser will still tell you it's $0 because it is not developed.
Majority of comments on appraisal folder are useless and I think the admin should check and consider having some specific rules in there.
Thank you
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werty said:Crappy domains don't sell. Every developed domainer knows that. You seem to be stuck on that stage of the learning curve. Just accept your domains are worthless and go in the right direction. Or just keep looking for excuses to support your failures. You can choose either side of the coin...
People like you who are judgmental should plant potatoes instead
Read my post below again 1 million times and quote something that support your statement above...