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AMA also stands for "Alleenstaande Minderjarige Asielzoeker", Dutch for "minor refugee without parents". They (the ama's) have special status in refugee law.

Dutch refugee lawyers might also be interested in it.

Nice domain. Good luck with your sale!

Nice Letters!

I would contact the American Medical Association to see if they are interested. The AMA Journal is HUGE.

Good Luck bro!

Pending sale to me.

Domain pushed. Payment waiting....

scrsteven said:

Pending sale to me.

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thechem said:

Domain pushed. Payment waiting....

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Congratulations to both Buyer and Seller! :tu:
-Jeff

scrsteven - Whats going on with this transaction ?

Is there a problem ?

Mark said:

scrsteven - Whats going on with this transaction ?

Is there a problem ?

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I PM'd you. I think the domain is hijacked. We agreed to him pushing the domain, then me paying by paypal (escrow.com 'took too long' for him). He pushed it, and I was about to send the payment until he made contradiction about how he got the name- he said he bought it a few months ago on a forum from a friend but whois history shows him getting it less than 30 days ago. So, I did more research.

Whois history shows previous owner less than a month ago with admin email contact @emcard.com, a domain thechem just acquired also either off drop or resale somewhere, and then set up an email account there to hijack ama.net that he saw used the same email account.

thechem says he bought the name on a forum from a friend months ago, but whois history shows the domain didn't change posession until less than 30 days ago, and there is no mention of ama.net on any forum (I did thorough searching "ama.net" everywhere)

I have asked him for simple statements or proof or anything about how he acquired the name and he refuses to say anything other than what was mentioned above. No link to the forum he bought it at? No person to say yes he got it legitimately from me? Immediately asking for the name back when I ask him these simple questions making sure it's clean?

thechem's trader rating is built up from a bunch of low dollar transactions and then all of a sudden he comes out with a couple high quality domains randomly. Sorry, but these things add up.

I will be super happy to pay the agreed amount instantly should he provide any real evidence of his legitimate ownership. I don't think returning a hijacked domain to a hijacker is the right thing to do either until this is cleared up.

I'd happily push the domain to an admin at NP until this is cleared up. I'd like to get out of the situation, but to do the right thing as well.

to summarize random things that add up: new member since june, 'sick brother needs money', 'escrow.com takes too long', 'paypal only', suspicious whois history for ama.net and emcard.com, lies about when acquired the name, asking for the name back immediately when questioned about it, refusing to provide any link to the 'forum' he got the name at, selling for $2000 when AMA.us sold for $5,000 not too long ago, etc. etc.

Wow! I am certainly gonna watch this thread.

Steven,

Please push back to me my domainname. And contact owner of domainname in your mind.

My domain still pushed your NetSOL account. And i requested transfer to me since hours....

I bought this domainname and you are not a Judge.

thechem said:

Steven,

Please push back to me my domainname. And contact owner of domainname in your mind.

My domain still pushed your NetSOL account. And i requested transfer to me since hours....

I bought this domainname and you are not a Judge.

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Simply clarify the things I brought up? Even if you had a NDA you could allude to some sort of evidence or address the questions I brought up?

I reiterate I will be happy to pay or push it back as soon as you provide satisfactory responses.

Why don't you give back to me my dirty domain ?

thechem said:

Why don't you give back to me my dirty domain ?

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Umm... who likes to keep hijackers in business?... how about return to real owner if it was really stolen... possibly Rama D. Jager which was previous whois' name: http://ophthalmology.bsd.uchicago.edu/v2/faculty.html

Steven,

if it is not any illegal action for this name, later your investigation ?
What will you do ?

remember pls: we deal, i pushed domain, and you have not paid. And you write this thread. Accuse me...

Thank you Steven you are great trader in this sector.

thechem said:

Steven,

if it is not any illegal action for this name, later your investigation ?
What are you doing ?

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If the name is legitimately yours I'll complete our agreement and pay you or return the domain to you. Very simple.

i am waiting finish this period and push to my domain to me.

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... possibly Rama D. Jager which was previous whois' name: http://ophthalmology.bsd.uchicago.edu/v2/faculty.html

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Rama's Address:

298 S SUNNYVALE AVE STE 210
SUNNYVALE, CA 94086-6279
US

Rama's Phone: (408) 737-3789
Rama's Fax: (408) 737-3793


I think faster with this info

thechem said:

i am waiting finish this period and push to my domain to me.



Rama's Address:

298 S SUNNYVALE AVE STE 210
SUNNYVALE, CA 94086-6279
US

Rama's Phone: (408) 737-3789
Rama's Fax: (408) 737-3793


I think faster with this info

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"We're sorry, you have reached a number that has been disconnected..." but somehow I think you knew that

I've called the number from the link I provided.. he is seeing patients all day, but I left my number with the secretary. I will be happy if he sold you the name and gladly pay you or return the domain to you. Just tell us how you got it and it could all be faster!

Steven

I have bought....


Which pay ?

You must push back to my NetSol Account !

thechem said:

Steven

I have bought....


Which pay ?

You must push back to my NetSol Account !

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So are you saying you bought the domain from this person?

Steven please again look your PMs
i said to you i don't know Rama, you say to me old whois record's show Rama owner of this domain.

I've read all my PM's... just say clearly where you got the name and we'll all be happy.

Steven,

in older whois record of domain Account Holder Show:

Mcard Corp.
6320 W. 159th St. Suite A
Oak Forest, IL 60452 US
Tel: (800) 840-4998

thechem said:

Steven,

in older whois record of domain Account Holder Show:

Mcard Corp.
6320 W. 159th St. Suite A
Oak Forest, IL 60452 US
Tel: (800) 840-4998

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Thanks for the info, I can see that, and how you just recently got emcard.com. That clue works against you...
Just tell us who you got it from instead of all this stuff you're telling us?
OK, enough asking you... I give up. I'll wait for admins/mods to come and see what they say.

Steven,

Why LLL.COM's LLL.COM LLL.NET's whois history was Stukenberg Telecom GB

How did you got these domains ?