Frank Schilling VS Rick Shwartz!

I agree with Frank. Internet is developing, everything is changing. .COM has been the king for a long time, now it's the time for a new kingdom. And the new extensions will decrease the power of .com.

I'd say it's Frank who's right here.

Chad

I am not agree with them!

I have to agree with Rick, at least in the US. Lots of extensions fall by the wayside for 2 reasons...

1. Established companies as well as start-ups use .com to grow their brands.
2. The general public is bombarded with .com everything so it's embedded in their brains.

It all depends on what people (companies) would prefer in the future: order (closed to the current situation) or chaos (tons of new, mostly crap tld's).

If BMW will do as Frank suggested it will lose customers for sure.

Look, if say I would like to buy a new BMW car, I would type m6.bmw, than x3.bmw, than 5.bmw etc. etc.
What the hell? I would go to volvocars.com and find a model i like.

The history says that if you would be divided into parts, you will die.

Hope major companies won't lose their .com names and their main sites would leave on .com.

One of the keys to understanding this post is that Franks talking about companys buying and using their own extension. Sale.Walmart Gas.Shell Drink.Coke (just wild examples)

Rick talking about the loads of 'generic' GTLDs meant to sell to others (domains and small business enduser) Even Rick would probably agree someing like dot music and dot web will be successful.

Where they both agree is that dot com will remain the strongest TLD

Shelby90 said:

...And the new extensions will decrease the power of .com.

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...or at least bring the value of .a com domain name down to an affordable level in most, not all, cases...

At either side of the spectrum they both have enough money to ride out the storm and pick up the wreckage...simply put it should provide a field day for those with money.

Blake

I say: this is unimportant.
The future is in the ccTLDs (outside the US).

The number of .COM registrations has more or less doubled in the last seven years despite global economic woes 2008+. .COM is here to stay though no doubt it is becoming increasingly difficult to find a meaningful short combination of keywords available for reg fee. Well, if you want office or retail space in a good location in any major city, you will have to pay for it. I'm not going to get caught up in all the GTLD hype as for me it is going to be too expensive and too risky. There will be buyers of GTLD for personal blogs because keyword availability will be much easier and these buyers just don't want to spend $xxx or more for a domain. But they weren't going to be buying your premium keyword domains anyway.

Perhaps soon we will see registrars offer a link to a premium domain search function when the exact match domain is not available in any primary extension. Put in your keyword/s, max budget, max character length, TLDs, etc and find what meets your criteria. Godaddy makes more in commissions from a Premium Listings sale than a mere domain registration so the registration channel should be set up as a lead to the Premium channel.

It is certainly possible that several of the new TLDs will receive modest acceptance and survive the predicted fallout. I believe I have seen ads for .US and .BIZ websites on occasion but these will be specialized markets which exist in any industry.

I think Frank is right. There will be a day when kids say to their parents "you mean everything back then was .com? why?"

We will just have to wait and see.

Everyday I'm thinking of it lol

Traveler said:

I think Frank is right. There will be a day when kids say to their parents "you mean everything back then was .com? why?"

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MY tough is that New GTLDs will be famous in asia first, then almost everywhere in the world in the next 10 years. The reason why the .com is staying popular its because most of US companies threat it as a cctld .COM will stay strong for another 12-15 years in America but 5 years later, we will realized that we are living in the pass.

My opinion

Frank is right, Rick is too but ...:P

Disagree with Frank on this one. He said:

"Ask yourself what you will navigate to when every brand looks: LIKE.THIS"

No existing brand is going to give up their .com. That would be pure stupidity. It already won. It already works. You don't introduce confusion to your customers.

New businesses, the smart ones, know which one they should build on so they don't have some of the known issues trying to build on some other extension.

Knowing he has a financial interest in people believing this, you should take what he says, on this issue, with a grain of salt.

He knows what most people should know. When I see a garbage extension like .pw having a quarter of a million+ regs I think? Then that tells me the sucker market is alive and kicking (has been since the dawn of man), so it's there to be milked.

What will happen to those investors who spent millions on their .com's? And these people are ain't no ordinary, they have power,money to manipulate the domain Industry. The only clear reason for these new extensions is to expand your .com's reach, market and value. The reason behind .com's nowadays is, the .com's registration rely much on the renewals not on the new registration since most of the premium are taken, and these premium domain only revolves to a domainer - domainer transaction which the registrar only waiting for the renewal once a year. The new 1000 extensions will bring new millions of premium domains available at hand multiply by 1000 extensions probability the registrar's will earn millions or even billions of dollars with these new extensions. .com, .org, .net, .info will be at the top unless a stopage on its registration. But one thing is sure, those premium names are already reserved by rich investors or even registrar itself.

I say it's gonna be based on what people want really. But then again on the other hand technology seems to be supporting the .com more and more. Countless cell phones and tablets allow autofill options and of course the main button after the keywords is .com on there keypads. My direct type in traffic has grown alot over the past few years due to this.

There's already hundreds of "extra" extensions.. adding hundreds more won't increase their value. .com will remain top dog in my opinion.

I don't know the context of which it was said, but I agree with Frank, and not because of the extensions coming.

With the exponential growth of information technology, it's difficult to say what the Internet will look like in 10 years let alone 20. .com may not even be used at all.

registrars and gtld Frank;s businesses are all revolving around ways to milk the suckers (i was such a sucker too, i can see from that perspective well too)

Register.com sends me mails:

"upgrade mydomain.com (i own) to mydomain.net (available - to register from them)"

seriously? what kind of credibility they should have to advise businesses on domains when they tell you to upgrade your .com to their .net?????

then it will send the same crap 'upgrade' your .com to .whatever they want - legalized cybersquatting solicitations in essense as they are making money of your brand to profit and thus contact you in bad faith as lots of WIPO processes would confirm this. you see?

it's all about squatting the trademark holders and businesses so they would spend on defensive registrations.
that's the main interest behind all this new gtld businesses.

but of course it's all hidden under the sauce of a next "new" wonder on the internet. they do not solve any real problem, just adding more problems to the existing ones. they just want to solicit millions of .com businesses to buy their .niche 'upgrade' for fast dough.

adinfinite said:

Frank has been saying



Rick has been saying

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Simon has been saying...

now clap your hands.



Biggie is saying....


now scratch your head





imo...

Both sides have a valid point here. Technically, I would have to agree with Rick on this one. COM is king and it most likely always will be. This extension has been branded into everyone's head for more than a decade now and the other extensions will most likely make .COM only that much more desirable (at least here in the US). When you open your web browser and want a price on airfare would it be quicker to type in Southwest.com or Southwest.travel?

On the other hand, when we are talking about a time frame like 20 years it would be safe to assume allot of things will be different. Especially with how quickly technology moves! I don't think it's going to be these new extensions that will change the internet 20 years from now - It's going to be a gob of other things! As far as domain extensions go, .COM will still be at the top and many will lose money on all these new extensions (just what many big companies want)..But, technology and the internet in general will certainly be more different 20 years from now!

We won't know for sure until we know and that is why we should probably hedge our bets and get in the new GLTD game as well. The only problem is that I don't think you are going to make much money long term from buying and owning these extensions. The big money will be made from selling them and collecting reg fees and renewals. Frank knows this.

Agree with FPForum, .com will be king until we shift to a different paradigm. Just think of what kind of devices you would even use to access the Internet even 10 years.

Prominent futurists, including Ray Kurzweil the director of engineering at Google, are predicting that in 20 years, technology will be completely integrated in our bodies in the form of 1,000s of machines (each with the power of a smartphone) the size of red blood cells flowing through our bodies. You think .com will exist then?

Here's a general video that talks about what the landscape will be like in that time period. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uIzS1uCOcE&list=PLvSsahSADGg3yogwpuWHy3Tu4T-_G4RJC"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uIzS1uCOcE&list=PLvSsahSADGg3yogwpuWHy3Tu4T-_G4RJC[/ame]

and an older TED talk

http://www.ted.com/talks/ray_kurzweil_announces_singularity_university.html