[mis_chiff]

Originally Posted by mactel

Sorry, mbugford, I am used to talk to Europeans, and mostly get understood, there. I am maybe not so good at explaining things to "Simple Simon". Sorry, friend. You got to be sometimes a genious, to follow a genious (or a .tel pioneer). .

Simple Simon
Nothing about needing to be a genius to follow anybody.

You are having conversations by yourself, and
as I stated before - it is very confusing.
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Stick to the topic at hand. The one in the thread!

[bmugford]

You are talking about marketing .TEL to Palestine. It is very hard to take you serious.

Palestine barely has the basic resources right now like food, water, energy. Marketing a domain extension there...yeah that makes sense.

Brad

Originally Posted by mactel

Sorry, mbugford, I am used to talk to Europeans, and mostly get understood, there. I am maybe not so good at explaining things to "Simple Simon". Sorry, friend. You got to be sometimes a genious, to follow a genious (or a .tel pioneer). .

Originally Posted by mactel

To rebuild a destroyed city, within reasonable time (Gaza).

What exactly does .TEL have to do with rebuilding Gaza? What are you talking about?
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Brad

[mactel]

Explaine me, what was "out of topic", in my last posts.
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Quote:
"What exactly does .TEL have to do with rebuilding Gaza? What are you talking about?
Brad"
Brad, .tel is about communications: If you want to move fast, and get fast access to builders, building materials, authorities, etc., you need smart and efficient ways to communicate: take .tel.
Needless, to have to explain all this. Please think. I do not want to think for other people, because they are not used to think.
Furthermore: anybody, who is not capable to think out of the box, won't be able to get the maximum benefit from a .tel domain. They might have one..., but to use what you have, in the best way, is something else / another story.
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I could also say, for example: use .tel to save the world, the environment, to prevent global warming. Or: use a .tel, to educate people about gluten-free food, or to find suppliers of gluten-free food, or doctors, specialised on Celiac health problems. And now you could come again, and say: " What are you talking about?"
Dear Brad: what are you thinking about, when you read such comments? Maybe: "this is weird and unusal stuff", and you maybe block out further thinking about it. But you maybe don't give it a chance, and try to understand. It is quasi put out of question, because it may sound weird to you. Give freedom of speach a chance, as well as comments from people who think out of the box. If you give it a chance and a go, you might be able to follow, at last.
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By the way, people will get successful, or maybe even wealthy, by setting up businesses in Palestine/Gaza: All the naysayers, and people, who think it does not make sense, to support Palestines infra structure, etc., are no business competition. Good, for those, with business in mind.
And today, if you use .tel domain business names, you got a huge advantage over those, who work without .tel.
So, this is neither out of topic, nor confusing commenting: It can be simply understood be all people with average education, and bit of imagination.

Areas without "the basic resources right now like food, water, energy": I would imagine, that they do,or will need it, or be grateful, to have it again: To provide those basic resource, you got to start somewhere, and get active. Things happen mostly by communicating, or using commuication tools. To use a .tel, you don't need a phisique telephone line: You can phone wireless, and even use satelite technology. Using smart phones in areas without infra structure, or basic resources, makes sense to me.
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You can market anything, where you can go sure, that it will be appreciated, and gratefully adapted and used. Give people tools, and they will use them, and build value.
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[DubDubDubDot]

Originally Posted by bmugford

You are talking about marketing .TEL to Palestine. It is very hard to take you serious.

I'm getting the feeling that he was moved out of a conflict area and landed in Geneva, where he found the internet for the first time.

[bmugford]

So .TEL is going to save the world now?

Brad

Originally Posted by mactel

Explaine me, what was "out of topic", in my last posts. . Quote: "What exactly does .TEL have to do with rebuilding Gaza? What are you talking about? Brad" Brad, .tel is about communications: If you want to move fast, and get fast access to builders, building materials, authorities, etc., you need smart and efficient ways to communicate: take .tel. Needless, to have to explain all this. Please think. I do not want to think for other people, because they are not used to think. Furthermore: anybody, who is not capable to think out of the box, won't be able to get the maximum benefit from a .tel domain. They might have one..., but to use what you have, in the best way, is something else / another story. . I could also say, for example: use .tel to save the word, the environment, to prevent global warming. And now you could come again, and say: " What are you talking about?" Dear Brad: what are you thinking about, when you read such comments? Maybe: "this weird and unusal stuff". But you maybe don't give it a chance, and try to understand. It is quasi put out of question, because is may sound weird to you. Give freedom of speach a chance, as well as comments from people who think out of the box. If you give it a chance and a go, you might be able to follow, at last. .

Originally Posted by mactel

Tel, as a solution out of misery and poverty, as well. For giving people and small businesses or startup businesses a chance. To be able to move faster on the go. To rebuild a destroyed city, within reasonable time (Gaza). ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561820 To get and provide homes for families, singles, etc.

[mactel]

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It is ok. I know, you do not believe in .tel.

I do have no problem, with that. Everyone if free, to be pro, or con.

But then again, I can see you naysayers in a few years, buying .tel stocks, because you see, that .tel is making good money, and is solid and big biz.
And you won't care, if you once disappreciated .tel, or not. Money talks.

If you .tel-naysayers were great communicators (and your posts don't give me this impression) than you would be using .tel, and telling us, about of your experiences. But this stays only a theoretical discussion, without any practical input, or examples from real usage, from real and personal experiences with .tel. - Only trying to back up comments, according from theoretical knowledge.
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You are great communicators, in this sense:
If you agree with me, you don't say it.
If you disagree with me, you say it.

Always the same pattern, from the naysayers.

And then it does look like, quote: "You are having conversations by yourself".

Something like a monolugue, not a dialogue.

That is why I will not answer all questions from people that are only too lazy to find the answer them selfs. It takes me time, to answer, and explain, and if I see, that it is not appeciated, I feel, that I am only wasting my time. So if you are not capable to think, and use oyur own brain for simply questions: You will not get the answer from me.

So: no: this is not a propper conversation, nor a good or nice way to communicate.
It is only a flame war, against .tel, and which has been tolerated (not by me) by some people, who could of taken a clear position against it, but however, just let it go on and on.
People, who otherwhise would have some good contributions, had just been put off, and wandered to other forums, to let others share their good input.
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I will have to therefore ignore a few of the naysayers and flame warriors, because they do not know how to communicate in a common way.

Peace.

I was looking for people to help promote .tel, and expained a few ideas and keypoints, but some of the regular naysayers put all in question (quasi categorical, with their same pattern of commonication).

So, this seems t be the wrong forum, to look for .tel supporters.
It is easy, to say "No", every time: But show me, what you have achieved...

The people who are naysayers, or are not supportive, seem to only have two or three .tel domains. So are these people who, should rule over the telsters?
So, this is a bad joke. But like things in the real world go.
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[MicroGuy]

Originally Posted by mactel

I can see you naysayers in a few years, buying .tel stocks

Tell me where are these stocks? I promise I'll go short first thing tomorrow morning. IMO.

[DubDubDubDot]

Originally Posted by mactel

Now I explain you, what I intend to do with .tel domain names: - create a commercial directory ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561820 - build electric cars - build wind power systems - supply parts for electric cars - supply parts for wind power systems (turbines, generators, etc.) - point to websites, such as .com, .org or .mobi, etc. - do good things, such as to rebuild infrastructures that had been destroyed by war. - etc.

You are going to build an electric car and a wind turbine using .tel? Nice. Yesterday I used a .tel to build a time machine. I'm going to test it out tomorrow and hopefully go back in time to stop you from getting knocked on the head.

[bmugford]

Wow, I never realized .TEL was going to save humanity rebuilding devastated cities.
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I am sure .TEL can also solve world hunger and bring world peace while it is at it.

Brad

Originally Posted by mactel

. - create a commercial directory - build electric cars - build wind power systems - supply parts for electric cars - supply parts for wind power systems (turbines, generators, etc.) - point to websites, such as .com, .org or .mobi, etc. - do good things, such as to rebuild infrastructures that had been destroyed by war. - etc.

[mactel]

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"My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you: Ask what you can do for your country,"

My fellow domainers, ask not what your .tel can do for you: Ask what you can do for for your .tel.
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So: What is it, that you can do for your .tel?:
A good .tel is:
- fully populated
- easy to navigate
- has a lot of information in each folder
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- provides contact details and Google Maps
- has a lot of content and details

And threfore, it provides value to the users.

If users find the information useful and valuable, then that is exactly, what you want.
And so, you can benefit from your .tel domain as well.

If you fill your .tel domain, with the right content, and if a lot of .tel owners follow the same good example, than the .tel's work, and are efficient, which means, that it would be possible, to mobilize a lot of people, for a good cause, within a short time:
Yes, it would be possible to offer aid /help, or mobilize people to save the environement, or to rebuild something, etc.
If you "tell .tel, what to do", it can do a lot.
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People, who are willing to do something good, or are able to offer their services within your money budget, can find all the information they need, and don't have to look for it.
They find you, and you find them. And there is no time consuming surfing and googling, bringing unsatisfyed search results. It is a win-win situation, and a "go", all the way, till the end of the task or project.
No time and money wasting, and no frustration.

That is all the beauty of .tel, if you make it beautiful, at first.
And then it works, and rocks, and is a efficient tool and helper.
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[dotker]

i think tel can do that tel & hel the world!

[spline]

With people like mactel...

How can .tel fail!?

[Jawed]

Originally Posted by spline

With people like mactel... ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561820 How can .tel fail!?

I’ve got a different view. I think enthusiasts like mactel will ruin the credibility of .tel (if any).

[mactel]

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1,) This is a forum tread, called "The Official .TEL Discussion Thread".

2.) The way the discussion is held, should be conform with the forum rules, as well as with common ways, how people generally communicate in civilicized forums. But many posts, from same members, are not comform in that sense.
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3.) There exists a forum (not at NamePros) called "TelSucks!".

4.) I suggest, that NamePros members, who think, that .tel sucks, move either to that forum, or that NamePros opens another tread called;
"The Official .TELsucks! Discussion Thread".

5.) And that we keep this place and thread "clean", from depreciated comments about .tel, as well as depreciated and personal comments about other members who support tel.

6.) I invite the management of NamePros to be so kind, and make a decision, or suggest another solution.

7.) We could also start a poll, and ask the members, if they would agree with such a "gentlemen agreement within NamePros members".

8.) Furthermore, I suggest, that we vote for a other forum adminstrator, who should deal with the new situation, and keep this a peaceful tread for .tel friends.

Peace and charity.
It is hard enough, with the financial crisises and the credit crunsch, etc.
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[mis_chiff]

Originally Posted by mactel

. 8.) Furthermore, I suggest, that we vote for a other forum adminstrator, who should deal with the new situation, and keep this a peaceful tread for .tel friends. Peace and charity. .

What's your point mactel? Seriously, you continue to knock
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Namepros management and admins because they won't delete
the posts or ban the members YOU want us to?
And now you want me replaced because I won't delete the "bad posts"?
Gimme a break!

Yet you don't follow rules, and you got quite a break the other day, did you
forget?? ... so let's not go there

Depreciated comments?? You mean another opinion/passion that is not the same as yours?

If you are not happy with the way this thread/forum is, please
don't waste your time here then. Find a forum of followers elsewhere.

We're not going to re-decorate just cause you don't like the colors!

[sdsinc]

More than once I have noticed that the most vocal proponents of new extensions happen to be newcomers to the domain industry.
.tel is no exception.
No problem to debate though, but instead of speculating about what .tel could/will do in your wildest dreams, let's talk about what it's doing in real life today.

[mactel]

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Well, I did suggest change. And it would be only good, for this thread, if there would be.... change.

It would be a better service for NamePros. For its reputation.
If .tel gets more praise and attention in the media, and people come around to read the old posts from this thread. Than reputation of NamePros would be seriously affected.

This thread is supposed to help and support .tel, and not the other way around.

The problem seems to be, that no one, till now, has the courage, for a fresh start, with new rules.

Because this game should be over, for a new game to start. Respectively, we should be one team, and not two teams in constant disput.

This thread was createt to get somewhere, and to achieve something positive.
But many members just don't feel very comfortable, and are possibly affraid, to take a position or viewpoint. Because they see, how other members get treated.

It could be much nicer, here, in this thread. We could get (more) posts from the Telnic management, but we are putting them off. They are peeping in, and reading, but prefere, rather not to say much.

It is quite embarrassing, to be honest.
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[mis_chiff]

Originally Posted by mactel

. It could be much nicer, here, in this thread. We could get (more) posts from the Telnic management, but we are putting them off. They are peeping in, and reading, but prefere, rather not to say much. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561820 It is quite embarrassing, to be honest. .

If Telnic management is peeping in, I'm sure they will post when there is something to post,
instead of hypatheticals and wishful thinking.

Don't worry so much about other people and their opinions, if you have something useful and constructive, by all means post it. But please keep it realistic.

[bmugford]

The point of this thread is to discuss .TEL. This means the negative and positive aspects.

This thread is not just here as a way to pump .TEL.

Namepros is an open forum where users can express their opinions. If you want to find a place of only like-minded people you are going to have to look somewhere else.

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Brad

Originally Posted by mactel

. It would be a better service for NamePros. For its reputation. If .tel gets more praise and attention in the media, and people come around to read the old posts from this thread. Than reputation of NamePros would be seriously affected. This thread is supposed to help and support .tel, and not the other way around.

[tiawood]

Originally Posted by bmugford

The point of this thread is to discuss .TEL. This means the negative and positive aspects. This thread is not just here as a way to pump .TEL. Namepros is an open forum where users can express their opinions. If you want to find a place of only like-minded people you are going to have to look somewhere else. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561820 Brad

Exactly.

[siga]

Mactel,
People post when they have something to post. I am a supporter of .tel own just under 30 names; when I feel I have something to post I shall post it. Untill then I dont feel the need to talk for the point of making noise.

I am sure many others are in the same boat. So called naysayers wont put us of posting, when there is something to post, after all this is a discussion thread. While some peoples arguments get repetitive others are enlightening; As domain buying is a investment, is it not better to know both sides of the coin?

If you have great ideas which others dont understand why not develop them and show, after all it is best to deal in fact and easiest to follow by example.
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>>>
Couple of quick questions for anyone, What is the best way to enter a phone number with extension into a .tel so it direct dials?
Has anyone got any news on non registrar .tel hosting?

[sdsinc]

Originally Posted by bmugford

The point of this thread is to discuss .TEL. This means the negative and positive aspects. This thread is not just here as a way to pump .TEL.

Exactly
Besides, domain extensions do not fail because of the naysayers. They fail because the end users do not embrace them.
Never forget that Mactel.

The worst that can happen is that newbies reading this thread will hopefully think twice before they invest any serious money in .tel or .whatever.
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Older members here have witnessed quite a few domain landrushes already. Telnic has been telling you how their extension is magic and so 'different' (well it is !) but it's always the same story. Hype, bubble, failure, oblivion. No crystal ball gazing here.

[plaggypig]

Originally Posted by sdsinc

Older members here have witnessed quite a few domain landrushes already. Telnic has been telling you how their extension is magic and so 'different' (well it is !) but it's always the same story. Hype, bubble, failure, oblivion. No crystal ball gazing here.

I think we're all aware of the people who poured their money into dumb extensions, but isn't it strange to say that history is bound to repeat itself in spite of the fact you recognise .tel is of a completely different nature, for different applications, and different markets.
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At least posit some rationale about the challenges you think it will fail to overcome. That would be a constructive argument worthy of our time.. this endless argument over baseless opinions is doing my head in.

[Steven]

Originally Posted by bmugford

The point of this thread is to discuss .TEL. This means the negative and positive aspects. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=561820 This thread is not just here as a way to pump .TEL. Namepros is an open forum where users can express their opinions. If you want to find a place of only like-minded people you are going to have to look somewhere else. Brad

Absolutely correct

[jacpar]

Today, I have regged BookMe.tel
Here are somes item I will put on it :
hotels
airplane
sports
train
golf
resorts
travel agents

I will appreciate having others item from you.