Defined "developed"

[wise]

I always see domain appraisals with for example

$40 undeveloped, more if developed.

Fair enough, the logic is simple, sell it with a good site already there attracting visitors and you get more.

I then read people posting domains for sale at $100 and being classed as "developed".

I click through to the site and all there is an invision board basic install with some forums and no members

Not trying to bash anyone but do people really consider that developed, and are willing to pay 2,3 or 4 times as much to buy it.

I think not, so what does everyone consider developed?

 

[RJ]

Originally posted by Kings
I consider it to be a complete working site, with returning visitors and good search ranks. You think different about this.

If I owned a domain name,
- spent $10k to hire the best web designer I could find,
- $40k comissioning writers to create 500 pages of original content,
- another $40k on programmers to develop the backend programming for the site,
- put it all together so it was a completed site,

you will still not consider it a developed website? How come?

 

[Kings]

Originally posted by -RJ-
If I owned a domain name,
- spent $10k to hire the best web designer I could find,
- $40k comissioning writers to create 500 pages of original content,
- another $40k on programmers to develop the backend programming for the site,
- put it all together so it was a completed site,

you will still not consider it a developed website? How come?

No, I still wouldn't consider it developed.

I consider it to be a starting website. Anyone (who has a load of money) can put up a nice website, but that still doesn't mean it will profitable/successfull. You have to tweak your site, as your site grows and attracts more visitors. First "versions" are never perfect. You have to perfect it. After a reasonable amount of time (this depends on the time you put in) it will be developed. You will have a steady visitors flow, good search rank, and a near-perfect website (not perfect!). That's what I consider developed.

Of course, getting a "developed" site takes time, that's why developed domains are sold for a lot more money.

 

[RJ]

Originally posted by Kings
No, I still wouldn't consider it developed.

Ok, same situation as above, I launch the website and 100 visitors come to it over the course of a week. Is it IYO developed then?

Did I just read in your post that a website must also be profitable to be considered developed?

 

[Bramiozo]

"developed" offcourse also stands for effort already made, time already spent and sometimes a concept already elaborated.

As for me; I never developed any site, so if I can grab a domainname that ís developed I will pay a lot more, not only for the time I do not have to spend but als for the learning opportunity.
And I gladly grabbed a few tonight .

As for the definition "developed" :
Ready for operating/usage, that's it

 

[Kings]

Originally posted by -RJ-
Ok, same situation as above, I launch the website and 100 visitors come to it over the course of a week. Is it IYO developed then?

Did I just read in your post that a website must also be profitable to be considered developed?

No, a website doesn't have to be already profitable to be successful. However, the potential to be profitable has to be there. That's pretty much the reason why a developed domain sells for more, imo.

If you launch a website you described above, and 100 visitors come to it in a week, I still wouldn't consider it developed. If it continues (e.g each week you get 100 visitors, and each week the number increases), then I would say it's developed.

However, as you get more visitors, you will most likely alos have to tweak your website, improve it (based on most likely suggestions by your visitors)..etc. After you've done that all, you've "developed" it, and I'd consider it to be completely developed. Then the domain would have a much higher value as well.

 

[RJ]

Originally posted by Kings
No, a website doesn't have to be already profitable to be successful. However, the potential to be profitable has to be there.

So IYO if a site is built for non-profit, it cannot be considered developed.

If you launch a website you described above, and 100 visitors come to it in a week, I still wouldn't consider it developed. If it continues (e.g each week you get 100 visitors, and each week the number increases), then I would say it's developed.

Ok, then there is a specific time that a site must be online for it to be considered developed IYO? What about same situation as above, and I get 10 hits a week for a full year. Then is it developed?

 

[Tippy]

I dont think we will come to an agreement here

Theres developed and theres established, they arnt the same.

Mike

 

[CenterPoint]

Originally posted by Kings
No, a website doesn't have to be already profitable to be successful. However, the potential to be profitable has to be there. That's pretty much the reason why a developed domain sells for more, imo.

If you launch a website you described above, and 100 visitors come to it in a week, I still wouldn't consider it developed. If it continues (e.g each week you get 100 visitors, and each week the number increases), then I would say it's developed.

However, as you get more visitors, you will most likely alos have to tweak your website, improve it (based on most likely suggestions by your visitors)..etc. After you've done that all, you've "developed" it, and I'd consider it to be completely developed. Then the domain would have a much higher value as well.

I think we are confusing apples and oranges here. A developed website is a site that contains active working pages period. There is no traffic and it is ready to me marketed.

Your definition of "Developed" is more along the lines of "Established"

From what I have read, you are saying that a "Developed Site" has traffic and is listed in the Search Engines. Yet, traffic and SE listings are fairly easy to acheive.

In theory you could build a site and within six weeks have traffic, hundreds or thousands of backlinks and be listed in all the major SE's and have a decent PR.

Does this make the site worth more? Not really because it is likely not quality traffic or Backlinks.

 

[Chris_C]

The problem here is that the world wide web is forever in flux, not a static and easily defineable entity. For instance, if Coolhost developed a rash (hehe isn't pickign on coolhost fun? ), then there's not going to be a whole lot of arguments (unless people really want to get philisophical). The rash was developing until the point when coolhost actually had a rash at which point the rash was developed.

Ok so websters defines develop as

To bring from latency to or toward fulfillment

Ok so developed occurs at the point of fulfillment. If the web is forever in flux can a website ever be developed?

Maybe it's better to just think of web development as a process:
(1) Research, (2) Strategy, (3) Implementation, (4) Reporting, and (5) Modification and Innovation.

Once a website hits 5, it's has been developed and goes back to number 1. Whether it still requires work or not is irrelevant, namely it has been developed. Like -rj- and a few others have mentioned, just because it has been developed, doesn't mean it was done well. *shrugs*

 

[Elefekt]

very nice reply chris. so nice it became post of the day!! congrats. I like that process.

 

[FruitFish]

Very nice post Chris

 

[Chris_C]

Thanks (:

 

[redhippo]

Originally posted by Elefekt
very nice reply chris. so nice it became post of the day!! congrats. I like that process.

finally!now I know what a POTD looks look! a battle between
English language masters:lol: