UNREAL: 1.2 TB 100 GB b/w per month, 3 GB space ... $3!??

mholt · 11-13-2005, 08:44 PM

Here:

www.WebHostingBuzz.com

I was with them once but moved to PolurNet just because I outgrew my hosting plan and WHB was still BRAND SPANKIN NEW.

Now I see this plan...

geesh!

I would recommend them but I'm committed to polurnet.

Stephen · 11-13-2005, 08:54 PM

Seems a bit too cheap for me.

Plus, it doesn't look like they accept paypal, which is a neccessity for me.

Stephen

mholt · 11-13-2005, 08:56 PM

Hm, you're right, they don't accept PP. That's dumb - accepting PP is easier than accepting ANY credit card...

Stephen · 11-13-2005, 08:59 PM

I have submitted a support ticket asking if they accept paypal or not.....

Stephen

tgo · 11-13-2005, 09:02 PM

Hmm, 1.8TB bandwith a month for $5? They have to be just hoping noone will use that much... I cant expect this to last.

My dedicated server doesnt even have that....

Edit - Misread that, its 150gb month. 1.8TB year. That sounds much better

jmweb · 11-14-2005, 01:29 AM

Originally Posted by tgo

Hmm, 1.8TB bandwith a month for $5? They have to be just hoping noone will use that much... I cant expect this to last.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/web-hosting-discussion/139863-unreal-1-2-tb-100-gb.html

My dedicated server doesnt even have that....

Edit - Misread that, its 150gb month. 1.8TB year. That sounds much better

100 GB/150 GB bandwidth a month for $5 is still considered a too good to be true offer therefore I'd consider it pretty much the same at 1.2 TB a month.

PolurNET · 11-14-2005, 04:01 AM

Well I don't like to talk about any other forums, but just search at WHT and you'll see a bunch of realities of the company.

Do you actually think their service would be at par with companies offering "normal" packages? Experience and background info on the company says clearly 'no'

If it's too good to be true, it probably is. Don't fall into the trap of a design of the website, we've seen many 'hosts' here on NP that left abruptly even when having a nice site.

Senad · 11-14-2005, 04:43 AM

Originally Posted by PolurNET

Well I don't like to talk about any other forums, but just search at WHT and you'll see a bunch of realities of the company.

Do you actually think their service would be at par with companies offering "normal" packages? Experience and background info on the company says clearly 'no'

If it's too good to be true, it probably is. Don't fall into the trap of a design of the website, we've seen many 'hosts' here on NP that left abruptly even when having a nice site.

Actually PolurNET last night when I saw this post I attempted to actually find out more information in regards to their services and there is NOTHING bad about their services. BUT they do have a very strict ToS/AuP

.

Host47 · 11-14-2005, 04:59 AM

I tend to agree with PolurNET, silly prices like that, they won't be round too long, seems they are desperate for business, i myself as a webhost offer "normal" packages and am doing just fine, you get what you pay for really sometimes and then some.

People start up a hosting ste thinking it's easy as pie, think again, I have to admit 2 years ago when i started I had rose tinted glasses on, they soon got removed.

But remember what PolurNET if it looks too good to be true it probably is. Also be aware of multiple posts advertising hosting, again means they are desperate for business.

vip-ip · 11-14-2005, 05:24 AM

It's not 100GB/150GB; it's 5GB/150GB which is a reality for $5.

Do the math: 80GB server / 5GB pieces = 16 packages; 16 * $5 = $80; suggesting that their support is pretty horrible, that's about right

Although they might have more space /etc..... but who knows.

barefoottech · 11-14-2005, 05:49 AM

Maybe like a lot of Script kiddies
And Oversell their server By 500%
But $5 is not a Viable business plan
And that website is only a cheap template
All I can say is if your websites are not worth $15 - $25 per month for the
hosting , then Maybe not worth having them and you should just park the names.

BillyConnite · 11-14-2005, 05:55 AM

They'd most likely have a 160gb hdd probably because it doesnt cost that much extra, so thats $160/month... BUT that would mean that they are overselling their bandwidth in that case, but if only selling 16 packages (80gb) not 32, then they wouldnt be overselling bandwidth...

So my analysis is that they are overselling by a little bit, but not much,

Senad · 11-14-2005, 06:22 AM

Bandwidth can be obtained at $0.30/cents GB or less if you buy in bulk. Most of the time you buy a 10Mbps or a 100Mbps or more burstable speed and you can monitor your traffic easily. My guess is that they are using Dual Xeon's with Burstable connections of either 10Mbps or 100Mbps along with 200GB HDs. If they have their own DataCenter and oversell just right then they might be making a profit and providing good support and reliable service. I have yet to see anything really bad in regards to them (even though they might be competition I cannot find anything bad with their service).

PolurNET · 11-14-2005, 06:52 AM

Offering huge bandwith may be also reflective of the kind of DC they are using, which is likely mediocre in terms of reliability, security (don't forget about that!) and peace-of-mind. Perhaps their own main website is hosted somewhere else, and not on the same server they're offering these "jaw-opening" deals on.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=139863

Just take precautions as much as possible when leaving to another place you're uncertain about and don't think price is the only factor to go on. There's tons of people caught on that mistake, as vip-ip can attest to that (he was with a $NP host first, then us, then NullNic, back to us...)

Senad · 11-14-2005, 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by PolurNET

I'm most certain they have one of those 2x160GB hard drive offers from their DC, thus decide to "why not take advantage by offering cheap plans, then con the customers after" type of thing. Moreover, offering huge bandwith is most probably also reflective of the kind of DC they are using, which is likely mediocre at best and terrible any other time, in terms of reliability, security (don't forget about that!) and peace-of-mind. I'd bet their own main website is hosted somewhere else, and not on the same server they're offering these "jaw-opening" deals on.

Hence, take precautions as much as possible and don't think price is the only factor to go on. There's tons of people caught on that mistake, as vip-ip can attest to that (he was with a $NP host first, then us, then NullNic, back to us...)

It's only a matter of time you'll here horror stories pouring in about WHB once they get the new signups going. Good for them, bad for the customer.

As Dave (BFT) always remarks: lack of business plan=cheap script kiddies

Overselling is a term we use frequently with these kind of hosts, but definately it's obvious what they are doing this time. Let's get a google map of their physical location, only to realize it's a house or apartment in an agricultural zone of some city.

Once again though they seem to have been longer in business than PolurNet or many other companies here. They claim they host over 22,000+ websites so I do not see where your logic is coming from? Last I checked you also have had some hot issues over at WHT with your own practices (advertising in competitors threads, hiring people for underwage costs, etc...) and now you are bashing another company? Lets get real here there is no point yet for any of us to bash our competition unless we can prove it, especially this one since nothing bad has been seen in regards to them as of yet.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=139863

I'm not one to just jump on the bandwagon here and say yes they suck because they offer such low prices (and they are a poetential threat to my customer base of course). Is it a high probability that they will not provide good service? Possibly but then again look at successful companies such as HostGator have been, do they oversell? Most definetly but they offer excellent support and services to all of their customers (overselling does not mean it's a bad thing if you have the proper business plan and resources).

PolurNET · 11-14-2005, 08:52 AM

Hi Senad,

I'm wasn't intending to bash them, but want to point out there is a controversy going on whether such a policy they have is feasible in the long run, and if so, what factors are positive and negative about them. I admit sometimes other hosts can get carried away in amplifying certain negative details about others. I can't find any info on the number of customers they have, but reading WHT posts, seems there's both negative and positive feedback, one can say almost equally balanced.

Sure, WHT is a true battleground where hosts bash other hosts, that's clearly a problem there and hopefully it won't come here. People tend to talk negative and positive things about most companies, which is part of the routine.
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=139863

However, as you said, without proof (something I pointed out at WHT myself) or factual knowledge about a company, it's not right to talk about them negatively per se. If there are customers from them who'd like to give their opinions that may be something to go on. Till then, we should keep completely neutral and see if they are able to sustain their service offerings.

Regards

aween · 11-14-2005, 09:04 AM

ow wow! if they accept PP i am gonna dump all my unused files on there

see what they will do if i uploaded 360 GB of data includingall my backup s ( encrypted ofcourse, i aint that dumb! )

but for real .. maybe a offer like that will be over 10 years, for now it i think its unreal ;-)

Senad · 11-14-2005, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by xlusive

ow wow! if they accept PP i am gonna dump all my unused files on there

see what they will do if i uploaded 360 GB of data includingall my backup s ( encrypted ofcourse, i aint that dumb! )

but for real .. maybe a offer like that will be over 10 years, for now it i think its unreal ;-)

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Originally Posted by PolurNET

Hi Senad,

I'm wasn't intending to bash them, but want to point out there is a controversy going on whether such a policy they have is feasible in the long run, and if so, what factors are positive and negative about them. I admit sometimes other hosts can get carried away in amplifying certain negative details about others. I can't find any info on the number of customers they have, but reading WHT posts, seems there's both negative and positive feedback, one can say almost equally balanced.

Sure, WHT is a true battleground where hosts bash other hosts, that's clearly a problem there and hopefully it won't come here. People tend to talk negative and positive things about most companies, which is part of the routine.

However, as you said, without proof (something I pointed out at WHT myself) or factual knowledge about a company, it's not right to talk about them negatively per se. If there are customers from them who'd like to give their opinions that may be something to go on. Till then, we should keep completely neutral and see if they are able to sustain their service offerings.

Regards

Yes WHT is basically gone to the dogs because of false accusations and INets ability to be bought out for Unmetered/Unlimited Advertisements

hence why I rarely post their anymore.

If we look in the long run HD will get bigger and bandwidth will become cheaper and cheaper as technology progresses. So in the long run...yes I'd say that their plans will most likely be feasable.

11-13-2005, 08:44 PM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
mholt DNOA Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,040	UNREAL: 1.2 TB 100 GB b/w per month, 3 GB space ... $3!?? Here: www.WebHostingBuzz.com I was with them once but moved to PolurNet just because I outgrew my hosting plan and WHB was still BRAND SPANKIN NEW. Now I see this plan... geesh! I would recommend them but I'm committed to polurnet.

11-13-2005, 09:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
tgo NamePros Regular Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 315	Hmm, 1.8TB bandwith a month for $5? They have to be just hoping noone will use that much... I cant expect this to last. My dedicated server doesnt even have that.... Edit - Misread that, its 150gb month. 1.8TB year. That sounds much better __________________ Female Celebrity Wallpapers \| Free Online Games \| Broadband Internet Specials \| Search Engine Optimization Last edited by tgo; 11-13-2005 at 09:05 PM.

11-14-2005, 05:49 AM	#11 (permalink)
barefoottech The MINISITE King Join Date: May 2005 Location: QTHR Posts: 4,588	Maybe like a lot of Script kiddies And Oversell their server By 500% But $5 is not a Viable business plan And that website is only a cheap template All I can say is if your websites are not worth $15 - $25 per month for the hosting , then Maybe not worth having them and you should just park the names. __________________ Barefoottech Minisites! Often Copied Always Amazing Never Bettered.

11-14-2005, 05:55 AM	#12 (permalink)
BillyConnite Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Coffs H, Australia Posts: 3,456	They'd most likely have a 160gb hdd probably because it doesnt cost that much extra, so thats $160/month... BUT that would mean that they are overselling their bandwidth in that case, but if only selling 16 packages (80gb) not 32, then they wouldnt be overselling bandwidth... So my analysis is that they are overselling by a little bit, but not much, __________________ Free Forums / GoDaddy Coupon Codes (NEW DOMAIN!) / Free Arcade Script / <?='Your computer is '.(1?fine:broken).'.'?>

11-14-2005, 06:22 AM	#13 (permalink)
Senad NamePros Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 161	Bandwidth can be obtained at $0.30/cents GB or less if you buy in bulk. Most of the time you buy a 10Mbps or a 100Mbps or more burstable speed and you can monitor your traffic easily. My guess is that they are using Dual Xeon's with Burstable connections of either 10Mbps or 100Mbps along with 200GB HDs. If they have their own DataCenter and oversell just right then they might be making a profit and providing good support and reliable service. I have yet to see anything really bad in regards to them (even though they might be competition I cannot find anything bad with their service). __________________ ▌PingPros LLC \| International Network Consultant & Internet Service Provider Cisco, Juniper, Extreme, BGP, OSPF, Windows, Linux, and Mac Consulting services \| Internet Service Provider High Quality Services at a very competitive price!

11-13-2005, 08:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
Stephen Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 3,245	Seems a bit too cheap for me. Plus, it doesn't look like they accept paypal, which is a neccessity for me. Stephen

11-13-2005, 08:56 PM	THREAD STARTER #3 (permalink)
mholt DNOA Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,040	Hm, you're right, they don't accept PP. That's dumb - accepting PP is easier than accepting ANY credit card...

11-13-2005, 08:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
Stephen Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 3,245	I have submitted a support ticket asking if they accept paypal or not..... Stephen

11-14-2005, 04:01 AM	#7 (permalink)
PolurNET Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: I ♥ Business Law Posts: 3,082	Well I don't like to talk about any other forums, but just search at WHT and you'll see a bunch of realities of the company. Do you actually think their service would be at par with companies offering "normal" packages? Experience and background info on the company says clearly 'no' If it's too good to be true, it probably is. Don't fall into the trap of a design of the website, we've seen many 'hosts' here on NP that left abruptly even when having a nice site.

11-14-2005, 04:59 AM	#9 (permalink)
Host47 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: England Posts: 1,197	I tend to agree with PolurNET, silly prices like that, they won't be round too long, seems they are desperate for business, i myself as a webhost offer "normal" packages and am doing just fine, you get what you pay for really sometimes and then some. People start up a hosting ste thinking it's easy as pie, think again, I have to admit 2 years ago when i started I had rose tinted glasses on, they soon got removed. But remember what PolurNET if it looks too good to be true it probably is. Also be aware of multiple posts advertising hosting, again means they are desperate for business.

11-14-2005, 05:24 AM	#10 (permalink)
vip-ip Account Closed Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: root@localhost Posts: 4,025	It's not 100GB/150GB; it's 5GB/150GB which is a reality for $5. Do the math: 80GB server / 5GB pieces = 16 packages; 16 * $5 = $80; suggesting that their support is pretty horrible, that's about right Although they might have more space /etc..... but who knows.

11-14-2005, 06:52 AM	#14 (permalink)
PolurNET Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: I ♥ Business Law Posts: 3,082	Offering huge bandwith may be also reflective of the kind of DC they are using, which is likely mediocre in terms of reliability, security (don't forget about that!) and peace-of-mind. Perhaps their own main website is hosted somewhere else, and not on the same server they're offering these "jaw-opening" deals on. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=139863 Just take precautions as much as possible when leaving to another place you're uncertain about and don't think price is the only factor to go on. There's tons of people caught on that mistake, as vip-ip can attest to that (he was with a $NP host first, then us, then NullNic, back to us...) Last edited by PolurNET; 11-14-2005 at 08:58 AM.

11-14-2005, 08:52 AM	#16 (permalink)
PolurNET Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: I ♥ Business Law Posts: 3,082	Hi Senad, I'm wasn't intending to bash them, but want to point out there is a controversy going on whether such a policy they have is feasible in the long run, and if so, what factors are positive and negative about them. I admit sometimes other hosts can get carried away in amplifying certain negative details about others. I can't find any info on the number of customers they have, but reading WHT posts, seems there's both negative and positive feedback, one can say almost equally balanced. Sure, WHT is a true battleground where hosts bash other hosts, that's clearly a problem there and hopefully it won't come here. People tend to talk negative and positive things about most companies, which is part of the routine. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=139863 However, as you said, without proof (something I pointed out at WHT myself) or factual knowledge about a company, it's not right to talk about them negatively per se. If there are customers from them who'd like to give their opinions that may be something to go on. Till then, we should keep completely neutral and see if they are able to sustain their service offerings. Regards

11-14-2005, 09:04 AM	#17 (permalink)
aween Pro Coder & Designer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Netherlands Posts: 967	ow wow! if they accept PP i am gonna dump all my unused files on there see what they will do if i uploaded 360 GB of data includingall my backup s ( encrypted ofcourse, i aint that dumb! ) but for real .. maybe a offer like that will be over 10 years, for now it i think its unreal ;-) __________________ aween web development

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