How dangerous is it to counter offer at Sedo?

[Shaniqua]

I got a $1,300 offer today at Sedo for one I bought at Go Daddy two weeks ago. I never sold anything this high before. Nowhere near this. When they offer this much is it their top money?

This domain is nothing real big I don't think, but it really would be someones number 1 choice if they needed it. The .net and others are at Go Daddy if they want it instead. I would have sold it for $50.

when you guys ask for double what they are offering does that scare them away?

I should take the money because the gas and stove and hot water is going to be shut off soon. we owe $700. i just dont know how far to risk losing this offer. the power is going to be shut off next month i am sure so getting more from this offer would help! I don't know what to do!

 

[lincolndsp]

i'd take the offer and be greatful for it.

 

[XYdomain]

counter to the range of min 2k, if not take the money.

 

[DavidH]

I hate to accept a first offer even if it is far above what I was expecting as psychologically it leaves the other party wondering if they could have got the name for less than what they offered.

Usually when people make an offer they leave themselves some room for negotiating upwards and, in my experience, rarely offer the maximum they can wish to pay.

I always counter offer but given your circumstances any counter offer would have to be carefully considered to not frighten them away.

They can then come back with three options:
1) Dont want to buy
2) Dont increase the price but can agree a sale at initial offer level
3) Increase their offer.

Sometimes they dont want to buy but this suggests to me that they were not serious in the first place.

I have had a number of situations where I accepted the first offer and the buyer never went through with the sale.

Keeping their offer the same or increasing it, if accepted, means each party gets a win-win situation - the seller is getting the price they wanted anyway and the buyer thinks he has got a bargain since the sales price will almost certainly be less than the asking price, so everyone goes away happy.

Good luck with your sale.

 

[wot]

This guys case is unusual and if the money can improve his current lifestyle then he should take the offer to save any heartache and hope the sale completes.

From my own point of view I repeat,I would NEVER take the first offer. Even Sedo call it negotiation.

That's exactly what it is a negotiating contest between two interested parties.In this case an opening offer of $xxxx+ indicates one of 2 scenarios- 1)Bullshit bid for whatever reason-and a likely banning, 2) A very interested party and for me only has one response-counter.

Prior to the above check where "buyer" is from and how long they have been a Sedo member and their buying/selling record. A new member may well indicate an end user,a well established record is very likely to be a reseller.

Then-hope you got it right!

 

[Kate]

I would take the money. You pay your debt and still have a comfortable allowance.
It may be the initial offer, but that does not mean the other party is willing to pay much more. Sometimes bidders make a decent initial offer, hoping that it will be taken as a good faith offer, and accepted.

If you counter-offer, what will likely happen is that the other party will reply with a final offer bid. They might cancel negotiations too, in your circumstances I would avoid risk. Money will improve your present situation and you still make an excellent return. Good luck.

 

[syncvb]

Here is the story of my first offer on SEDO.
Buyer's offer: $180
My counter offer-> $2250 (I think the domain has that potential)
Buyer's counter-offer $400
My counter offer-> $2500 (I think that he can definitely pay for it)
The buyer cancelled the negotiation

After 15 days,an offer of $800 from the same person came for the same domain
but I thought the domain is really nice so the buyer is eager to get it.
So I countered it with $3000.
The result-He cancelled the negotiation again and now I am not sure whether the domain will get any more offers or not.

The moral of the story is : Be realistic in pricing and in your case,you were expecting a $50 sale,then just take the offer of $1.3K and enjoy.
Regarding sending it to auction,you can mail any potential end user that the domain is for sale at sedo,for a limited time.
This might get any more bids during the auction.

 

[gazzip]

I would'nt send it to auction at sedo after you have agreed to accept a price, I personally think it is an insult to the buyer and bad business practice.


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[Archangel]

From my own experience, I've sold 6 domains at SEDO since last December. I've had about 8 or 9 offers in that time. With a few sales, I was given lowball $100 offers & countered them for a higher amount. They countered with very low figures ($125 to $150, I think). Since I didn't care about the domains, I took the offers. There were at least 2 or so that were lowballs & were countered with mid $xxx offers. The other party ended negotiations afterward.

Sometimes, a person's initial offer IS the highest they're willing to pay. Sometimes it's worth countering an offer and others, it isn't.

 

[DU]

I would'nt send it to auction at sedo after you have agreed to accept a price, I personally think it is an insult to the buyer and bad business practice.


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I think it's strange that they allow this as an option. You accept an offer that's binding - but then allow gazumping. It's odd.

 

[wot]

I think it's strange that they allow this as an option. You accept an offer that's binding - but then allow gazumping. It's odd.

Sedo expect to make more money-probably as simple as that!

 

[Weber]

I would'nt send it to auction at sedo after you have agreed to accept a price, I personally think it is an insult to the buyer and bad business practice.

It can't go to auction if the seller accepts the latest offer.
Seller has a choice to accept the offer or send it to auction.
The buyer is aware of this, as they agree to terms in order to bid.

 

[badar1653]

I think you should take the offer..it is still a very good offer

 

[Smith]

We normally counter an offer, usually by about 5x-10x the opening.

This year we've had 103 offers in one sedo account, of that:

We cancelled the offer 35 times

They cancelled the offer 26 times

we closed a sale 42 times, avg sale $1500


If it is a lower quality name, make a lower counter offer, as as you're in a tight place financially, go even lower, counter with $1800 maybe settle for $1500.

Don't get greedy, or you'll end up regretting that you did and you don't have the volume of sales (as most people don't) to make up the difference.

 

[gazzip]

It can't go to auction if the seller accepts the latest offer.
Seller has a choice to accept the offer or send it to auction.
The buyer is aware of this, as they agree to terms in order to bid.

So what you're saying is that me(as the seller) can a)accept the buyers last bid and close the sale.

or b) Send it to auction "without" actually accepting the buyers last bid.

Hmmm, Either way the buyer will be required to pay the current bid price (if no more bids are placed by others) or he'll have to outbid any newcomers.

I would have thought that endusers (more than domainers in the know) would be very unhappy with this and I would be surprised if they are fully aware of this when they make their offer. The last thing an enduser wants is more exposure & competition.

To me its like shaking hands on a deal then trying to sell it for more to someone else. :tri:

I'd be interested to know how many sedo auctions end with no payment because the buyer found a "better deal".

Heres what it says on Sedos FAQ page

Start an Auction

When a seller receives an offer on a domain, he/she is able to start an auction within five (5) days. If the seller chooses this option, your original offer will serve as the reserve price. Therefore, the seller accepts your bid unless a bid for a higher amount is made by the end of the auction. The auction end time is scheduled for seven (7) days following the placement of your original offer.


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This year we've had 103 offers in one sedo account, of that:
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we closed a sale 42 times, avg sale $1500

Nice :tu 103 offers out of how many domains?



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[Smith]

Nice :tu 103 offers out of how many domains?

That is on a portfolio of around 16,000 names.

 

[Kassper]

Dude, let me ask you a couple of things... How the hell are you going to pay the bills next month... and month after that... and after that...

What put you in this situation?

Are you a hardcore gambler? - my first guess on your post is that you are, but can't be sure... :p

Are you an unbrakable optimist? - why don't you have enough money to pay the bills, but still you own domain names? :loveyou:

Are you without a job? - GET A NEW ONE - you CAN do it! :kickass:

Do you have a massive domain portfolio? - highly unlikely considering this is your first offer on sedo and you're asking here about it.

And finally, how would you pay the bills without the domain sale? You would find a way anyway...

MAKE A COUNTER OFFER - in mid 2k range

 

[gazzip]

That is on a portfolio of around 16,000 names.

Holy Cow, and you have more that one sedo account by the sounds of it , that's alot of names....and renewals

When did you start domaining Smith, in the 80's ?


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[XYdomain]

counter to the range of min 2k, if not take the money.

We normally counter an offer, usually by about 5x-10x the opening.

This year we've had 103 offers in one sedo account, of that:

We cancelled the offer 35 times

They cancelled the offer 26 times

we closed a sale 42 times, avg sale $1500


If it is a lower quality name, make a lower counter offer, as as you're in a tight place financially, go even lower, counter with $1800 maybe settle for $1500.

Don't get greedy, or you'll end up regretting that you did and you don't have the volume of sales (as most people don't) to make up the difference.

Good advice.

There is a reason why the buyer offer $1300 and its clearly he know you might counter offer. If you counter to $1500, the buyer might take it or keep still there and final offer to you as $1300 becos he know you might sell for $1300. Counter to $2000 is better in this case so the buyer might offer or take for $2k, $1.8, $1.5 or worse but not the worst case for $1300.

If you are worried, why not get the $1300 and get a good night sleep given that you think is a $50 worth name in the first place.

As far as it happen to me when i want to buy a name, one big company counter offer me and raise the price EVEN WHEN THEY PUT A FIXED PRICE ON IT ALREADY AND THEY CHANGED THE PRICE.

And i never deal with that company.

Cheers

 

[snoop]

Would take the offer, given the apparent low value of the domain, the size of the offer and the fact that it isn't a very round number it wouldn't surprise me if they were offering at or close to their budget. Don't forget to to take a look at the buyer info in Sedo showing country, signup date and activity levels. It may give you an idea on who the buyer is.

Personally I found the idea of always countering is hit and miss. I've countered 50% above offers in the past just to try and get a bit more money (even though I would have sold at the first offer) and it is not uncommon for a deal not to happen (maybe 30% of the time). Sometimes as soon as you counter they will just look for something else, even going back to them a week or two later saying you'll take the original offer and they have gone with something else.

 

[ComKid]

On a $11 investment with bills owed.... a $1300 payday looks pretty good. If it were me, regardless of financial standing I would lean more towards pulling that cash register handle. There's nothing like that sweet sound of 'cha-ching'.



Do some research first. Look up how many searches the keywords get with this tool https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal?forceLegacy=true

Then see if there have been any similar sales with these DN Sale Price- Domain Name Sales Price and History

http://www.namebio.com/

Domain Name Journal - The Industry News Magazine at DNJournal.com

Cross reference and then decide if you want to take more risk. Just don't put off what is more important, such as family and bills for a flip of the coin.

 

[ssamriga]

I'll have a "case study" to present soon. The name in my sig got an offer on Sedo yesterday of $250, I countered with $1900, they countered with $350, I countered again with $ 1850 and a note that I would send it to auction at $1000. I am 100% sure I will not sell the name for less than $1000, so we'll see how motivated the buyer is.

I am betting though, they will cancel now after my second counter

P.S. Advice to the OP- if you've described your circumstances correctly then TAKE THE MONEY AS QUICK AS YOU CAN!

 

[CDM]

I'll have a "case study" to present soon. The name in my sig got an offer on Sedo yesterday of $250, I countered with $1900, they countered with $350, I countered again with $ 1850 and a note that I would send it to auction at $1000. I am 100% sure I will not sell the name for less than $1000, so we'll see how motivated the buyer is.

I am betting though, they will cancel now after my second counter

P.S. Advice to the OP- if you've described your circumstances correctly then TAKE THE MONEY AS QUICK AS YOU CAN!

What happened ssamriga? i think telling them you will send it to auction at a certain price is not the best thing to say

also, to the OP ... did you take the offer or did you try to counter? don't leave us hanging!! :?