hanz said:
As I said, spamhaus.org isn't just another third party. It is an organization whose mission is to track the spam and they have rather good reputation.
There are numerous organisations and companies dealing with this type of information so spamhous.org is indeed just another third party.
Just because they deal with spam information regarding blacklists and so on doesn't mean they shouldn't be questioned?
Third party reconmendations such as spamhous.org that doesn't hold any special kind of relationship with GD regarding taking up the task to do the thorough investigation that is needed is just not realistic!
Just because they deal constantly with spam information does not mean they have to swallow everything they say.
There is something that is called ''due dilligence'' you know? Something that Godaddy doesn't evidently understand and neither do you unfortunately.
To illustrate this better so you may have a better understanding of my position:
Example:
Company A is a supermarkt
Company B is a accounting agency
Company C is a respected anti-money laundring investigation company
According to your logic that you would even implement if you would have control over a hosting or domain registrar company as you have said...if Company C would complain about A to Company B and accuse them of money laundring then Company B should drop and put all work to a dead stop just because of a telephone call or email?
That's irresponsible and stupid!
Why? Yes, PayPal will first contact your datacenter, but if that doesn't help then I am sure they will also contact registrar and that domain will be taken down (maybe not 1399 domains, but at least that one).
So what if you where out for the weekend? then they would take down your website only because they get a email of a accusation of Spam which in this case of above was totally unjustified and uncalled for.
And they even charge you $199!
Even if they wouldn't charge you $199 it's totally irresponsible to take down someones website just because of a email or phonecall that has no investigative back up to prove it!
Just as has happend:
Two complains demonstrated by GoDaddy had nothing common with Majordomo and its clients.
My point is very easy, russia has more problems with spamming, warez, hacking and illegal porn than most other countries. So if they would utilise this weird policy only on specific countries then russia should be in that list.
Yes you point is indeed very easy. In the way that is hasn't been thought through and it's irresponsible. Just because it sounds ''easy'' doesn't make it the right thing to do!
Then the U.S. should be according to your logic on that list as well since a very VERY large majority of spam originates from the U.S.
Yeah we should allow to let the U.S. be cutt of from the Internet? Unbelievable you could think like that!
Since this is your logic -->cut countries of from the Internet because a lot of the problematic issues that comes with the Internet originates from that certain country.
Then you could start counting
U.S./ Taiwan/ China/ Russia/ Korea/ ...
uhh how many countries left Boss? Just a couple of more! My obedient not thinking for yourself slave!
Can't you see that this is not the solution? It would only shift from country to country! before you know it there are no more countries left that is allowed to use the internet.
What about all those legitimate finacial institutions in Russia that needs the Internet to conduct their business? Just deny them the right to use the internet? Of course not!
What about from a political point of view? Nowadays because of the information technology mis-conducts of governments around the world are exposed more quickly then ever! Would you like to see Poetin have his way by not letting the world know what kind of Criminal he is?
THINK MAN! THINK!
Reality is that spamming is big problem and it must be stopped. Yes, I agree that Godaddy was a bit too rough when they blocked 1399 domains, but something has to be done. I am sure that host was contacted before, but as host did nothing then registrar (Godaddy) was their next stop, and that worked, maybe a bit too well, but at least they did something unlike that host. And I must say again, spamhaus.org isn't just another third party. If they would do that on my request, then there would be something wrong, but I see nothing wrong with spamhaus.org.
Godaddy was irresponsible and stupid! Spamhous.org is just another third party that should not be believed on it's accusations with solid proof to back it up!
This was evidently the case since:
Two complains demonstrated by GoDaddy had nothing common with Majordomo and its clients.
You see?
Come on man!