Google tracks age of domain - Another evidence

mole said:

Must read article...



http://www.webpronews.com/ebusiness/seo/wpn-4-20050621TheGooglePatentandSEO.html

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thanks for sharing ...

yes is all about the last Google's Patent Application ..

Yes, great article. Thanks!

Stephan Miller’s article featured in WebProNews is his analysis of this document Google's Patent Application. I will personally attempt to contact Mr. Miller in hopes of identifying which parts of this document he bases his conclusions on.



PS. The website of this articles origin StephanMiller.com expires Jan 20th 2006. It appears he only registered it for one year, I guess he better renew it soon and for at least five years if he wants to do well in the serps. :hehe:

Man do I love WebPro's news, they always email me and I don't know how I signed up but some interesting stuff

thanks for the interesting article Was a nice read on a sunday afternoon hehe..

All interesting stuff, thanks

Today Stephan Miller contacted me with an explanation as to why he concluded this regarding Google,

They will also be tracking the length of renewal on the theory that a person that renews for ten years will be more likely to build a worthwhile site than someone who only holds their domain for a year

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by referring me to section [0099] of the description of the application.

Here is that section:
[0099] Certain signals may be used to distinguish between illegitimate and legitimate domains. For example, domains can be renewed up to a period of 10 years. Valuable (legitimate) domains are often paid for several years in advance, while doorway (illegitimate) domains rarely are used for more than a year. Therefore, the date when a domain expires in the future can be used as a factor in predicting the legitimacy of a domain and, thus, the documents associated therewith.



This appears reasonably comprehensible.

Mole, thanks for the link.

Kim, that was very industrious of you to contact the author for further clarification. Good work!

slaughterbeck said:

PS. The website of this articles origin StephanMiller.com expires Jan 20th 2006. It appears he only registered it for one year, I guess he better renew it soon and for at least five years if he wants to do well in the serps. :hehe:

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At the same time, I can't help but laugh, because this appears to be the second time (recently) that you showed an author not following their own advice.

Still not entirely buying it... (As Slaughterbeck points out above, even those that preach it don't always pratice it...), but a good read.

And Slaughterbeck, way to go above and beyond on contacting the author

-Allan :gl:

Awesome, thanks for sharing the news with us. :tu:

Nice article

I don't like that idea because it's just going to screw a lot of things up. There won't be a lot of new sites the Internet will get boring. There won't be any competition because people will just be buying old sites and not trying to make a new site. Their just making it harder for newbies!

IMHO this is just more bad news for the little guy. Agaim IMO Google users would be better served if they would get rid of the dead links and down junk sites. They say they hate spammers but do nothing.

Do a search on "Sonic Poker" and observe the Google site description and then the real site content. Total spam and this doesn't scratch the surface of what I found while doing some research over the last few days.

Google is already packed with old stale content and this would just make it worse.

MSN (and I am a mickysoft hater) is now my default search. That is where the fresh content is.

Thanks for that, an interesting read :D

Google's shenanigans are obvious to those that look beyond the smoke an mirrors. But for the rest, well, they'll just keep asking Google, "HOW HIGH SHALL I JUMP FOR YOU THIS TIME, GOOGLE, SIR!?"

Yet another ploy by the socialists at Google to get webmasters to use AdWords in order to get noticed in Google.

Everything is so Google-centric these days...and doesn't it make a proud, free American want to peeeewk!!!

Boycott Google (don't worry, the .COM is already taken, but .ORG and all others are still available).

Try MSN and Yahoo instead. Much better search results without the socialist games.

hark said:

Google is already packed with old stale content and this would just make it worse.

MSN (and I am a mickysoft hater) is now my default search. That is where the fresh content is.

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Ditto. Except I don't hate MS or their products simply becasue I don't jump on bandwagons built on jealousy.

zquest said:

Ditto. Except I don't hate MS or their products simply becasue I don't jump on bandwagons built on jealousy.

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I'd imagine some Google supporters might say that your (and other's) Anti-Google comments are doing that with them. I'm not saying you are, but it's a reminder that things can look very different depending on what perspective you view them.

Zquest,

You say it pretty well without the fluff :bingo:

Hate M$ might be a bit strong but IMO they sell an overpriced inferior product. I use every piece of Open Source software I can. I have managed to move most of my work to a SuSE box. I must admit XP isn't bad but why pay for M$ Office when Open Office is free. (sorry I got off topic).

Actually I have a love/hate thing with Google. Their search results have degraded badly but I like my AdSense income stream. My ability to get new sites listed in MSN is cool and isn't it a kick that a good number of these visitors clicked AdSense.

They are the 900 lb gorilla but so was IBM in the 1970's.80's. Oh how the mighty can fall and if they don't get a better grasp on reality it could very well happen.

zquest said:

Yet another ploy by the socialists at Google to get webmasters to use AdWords in order to get noticed in Google.

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i think you hit the nail on the head with this... i wouldnt be surprised if this was actually the 'main' motivation behind many of googles moves...

Matrix1976 said:

i think you hit the nail on the head with this... i wouldnt be surprised if this was actually the 'main' motivation behind many of googles moves...

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A light just went off in my head. The major competition with my primary site buys AdWords & I don't. I can't get above him on Google but can on other SE's. I am pushing him though. He keeps feeling me out about 'buying my site' but it ain't for sale (yet). I am starting another one (actually a network of pure informational sites with revenue derived via advertising) from scratch & at the right time I will quote him a price. :hehe:

I like MSN's search simply because i know for sure it's not going anywhere. They are a big company and can afford anything, the engine itself is better than it was.

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I'd imagine some Google supporters might say that your (and other's) Anti-Google comments are doing that with them. I'm not saying you are, but it's a reminder that things can look very different depending on what perspective you view them.

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Sure, I understand where you're coming from, but for me, my hate for G isn't one of jealousy. Not in the slightest. It's just pure hatered.

Google this, Google that. It makes me sick. It's like living in a land/world where one person owns everything and everything is named after him. But then to top it off they seem to want to keep the little guy down by imposing rules that are, by and large, irrational.

IF in fact Google thinks that just because your domain was regged yesterday and for only one year that it is likely that your site's content is not 'up to par' and that you are possibly a spammer, that is the same as saying the less money you have the more you, your site, and your content are worthless.

As we all know, that's BALONEY.

I have no doubt that Google has plans to take over all cyberspace. They have their hand in just about every corner of it and they are successful at making everyone think they are the best. But it's all hype as most things like this usually are. They are not the best, they are merely the biggest in their industry - big difference.

hark said:

A light just went off in my head. The major competition with my primary site buys AdWords & I don't. I can't get above him on Google but can on other SE's. I am pushing him though. He keeps feeling me out about 'buying my site' but it ain't for sale (yet). I am starting another one (actually a network of pure informational sites with revenue derived via advertising) from scratch & at the right time I will quote him a price. :hehe:

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RIGHT! Don't forget, AdWords is the life-blood of Google. Last I heard AW is 75% of G's revenue.

Oh, everybody knows, that I was talking about it yesterday on our chat

And seriously, maybe this is the step in the right direction, but they took wrong shoes

Checking the registration time (time till expiration) seems for me is a Google nice touch for all domain registrars, but only until they'll start to renew all your domains for 10years+, for let's say $4 per year
Do you want to be on top? Renew the domains with us, 10, 20, 30y packages

hark said:

Zquest,

You say it pretty well without the fluff :bingo:

Hate M$ might be a bit strong but IMO they sell an overpriced inferior product. I use every piece of Open Source software I can. I have managed to move most of my work to a SuSE box. I must admit XP isn't bad but why pay for M$ Office when Open Office is free. (sorry I got off topic).

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Well, I hear you, but the same can be said for just about every piece of commercial software made by a large company. Sure, it bugs me that MS pretty much has a monopoly on OS's and Productivity suites, but then, they aren't bad products, IMO. I like MS Office.

As for Open Office, well, the answer is support. The reason why any commercial program will win out over open source programs is simply because of support for the product. Every piece of open source software or script that i have ever used comes with no formal support. Usually just community support - which is not practical for most people and pretty much all businesses. Community support is a hit or miss and very unrealiable - therefore a time/money waster. IF my software malfunctions, I do not have the time to go searching around for the answer and fix it myself, relying on the community to help me. It could take days, weeks, months to get my problem worked out. This is one reason why I am starting to get away from OSCommerce. Decent cart, but the community support is really bad for end-users that don't have the greatest knowledge of PHP and MySQL databases. It's just not practical to run a business under such conditions. But no hard feelings towards OSC, they are mainly for developers to build carts for end users for profit. I am not mainly a developer but rather an end user. That is not who OSC was made for ultimately.

mixon said:

Oh, everybody knows, that I was talking about it yesterday on our chat

And seriously, maybe this is the step in the right direction, but they took wrong shoes

Checking the registration time (time till expiration) seems for me is a Google nice touch for all domain registrars, but only until they'll start to renew all your domains for 10years+, for let's say $4 per year
Do you want to be on top? Renew the domains with us, 10, 20, 30y packages

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And don't forget. Google is officially an ICANN accredited registrar. Sure, they are not selling domains today, but I wouldn't put it past them to start selling domain regs down the road. And then when that happens, who's to say that Google will not give better ranks to those that reg domains from them over another company?

Again, it makes me sick just to think about it. Excuse me...

hark said:

MSN (and I am a mickysoft hater) is now my default search. That is where the fresh content is.

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Yahoo! has very relevant searches as well and fresh content

-Steve