smurge

And so it begins!

My goal is to help people learn more about the parking industry and help them earn more money while spending less of it.

There are tons of tricks,tips,secrets that people use to make money in this business.

Let me say this, I will not discuss illegal or bad practices here so please don't ask.

What will I talk about? How to find domains,with traffic for cheap. Creating long term wealth for yourself and how to do it on a budget. I will answer questions and talk about what I know. If there is something I'm not familiar with or not knowledgeable about I will say so.

I am not here to start flaming wars with other domainers or parking gurus. Everyone has their own set of rules to making money. If you don't like mine, that's okay , but please share your ideas with everyone instead of bashing others.


Myths I want to debunk now:

#1. Parking is dead. (Far from it)

#2. You can't make money doing it. (B.S.- you can make a ton of money in it)

#3. Only the rich can do this. (This is not true!)

#4. Google doesn't like domain parking! (Yes they do, they make a ton of money off it. If they hated it so much why do they continue to support it?)



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So what's the point of all this? It's to help people with parking.

Please feel free to email,pm, or post your questions here and I will do my best to answer them all.


Thanks!

RJ

(P.S. I'm not the best writer so I apologize for any grammar or sentence structure mistakes in advance.)



--Answers to Questions I'm frequently asked!--

#1. What parking companies do I support/like?

These are the main ones I use and have had great success with. I base my success not only on the amount of money I make but also, customer service and transparency.

In alphabetical order:

- Bodis.com (Supports Foreign Traffic)(Zero Click Model Supported)
- Domainsponsor.com (Supports Foreign Traffic) (Zero Click Model Supported)
- Parkingcrew.com (Supports Foreign Traffic)
- Voodoo.com (Highest Payouts In The Industry)


#2. What tools do you use to help you evaluate domains?

Besides my own "TOOL", which I'm not here to promote I would suggest the following;

1. Push2check.com - Great resource site (I do not affiliated with them in anyway)

If we break down the tools I generally look at the following:

Traffic Sources: (Understand that no tool is 100% accurate but together you can get a great picture.)

1. Compete.com
2. Alexa.com
3. Quantcast.com
4. Verisign Labs: http://domainscore.verisignlabs.com/ ( WARNING: This tool to be used when you have mastered other tools. The information on this site is tricky but can be useful)

History of the domain:

1. Archive.org
2. who.is

Backlinks: ( There are plenty of tools for these but here are some sites I use)

1. Majesticseo.com
2. Google Backlinks
3. Yahoo Backlinks
4. DuckDuckGo.com
5. AHrefs.com: https://ahrefs.com/site-explorer/ove...rickbuyers.com
6. opensiteexplorer.org (Enjoy this one. It's the search engine for backlinks)



Keywords:

1. Google Keyword Tool


#3. Where can I get lists to analyze:

I have my own tools that do the work for me however here are a few places you can grab lists from to analyze:

1. Dynadot.com
2. Expireddomains.net - (good site)
3. Namejet.com
4. Snapnames.com
5. Godaddy.com
6. Freshdrop.net - (this covers a majority of the above & more)


#4. Do all your domains make money?:

NO!

I'll say it again : NO! I STILL PICK LOSERS!

In fact anyone who says they make money on every single purchase is lying. No one has a 100% success rate and you don't need to. What you need to do to win in this business is;

#1. Pick 51% winners
#2. Make sure to keep your costs low and make more then your spending.


Understand a single domain can make up the costs of lost ones. I picked a domain that makes me $15.00 a day in revenue. That means I'll make $450 a month with it and it's recouped $300 I've lost on previous domains.

Trust me, the sea of domains is massive and there are ton's of GOLDEN NUGGETS ready to be mined by all.


#5. How much do you spend on domains?:

I've spent anywhere from $.99 - $x,xxx! If I like a domain I will spend what I need, to get it as long as "I CAN STILL MAKE A PROFIT"! That's the key.

However, recently I am testing a new program which allows me to buy strictly "HANDREGS". YUP, Handregs! You would be surprised at how much stuff is just sitting on the ocean floor of domains that people think are garbage.


#6. Blacklisted Domains? Revenue Sucks! HELLLLLP!

This is something that's not addressed a lot and something everyone should be aware of: THE BLACK LIST!

This still happens to me this day. I'll buy a domain only to find out the previous owner got blacklisted from Google. This will affect your revenue greatly because Google will not allow Parking Companies to display the proper ad's on your site. If this happens you will need to go to a second feed like Yahoo! or Zeroclick model.

Common Terms for Blacklisted:

1. Faillisted
2. Blacklisted
3. Fail

Check the status of a domain when you park it and you'll see what I mean.

Edit:6/12/2012: Thank You www.ri.sch.edu.sg for this tool!

Originally Posted by www.ri.sch.edu.sg

One thing I can add to this thread is to check if the domain is blacklisted before you purchase them, simply point to:


https://api.bodis.com/domainclassifi...domain=(Insert Domain Here)

Classification:

Primary = Google

Secondary = All others but Google (Faillisted,blacklisted, etc from google)

Hope that helps






#7. YUM! YUM! Domain Tasting


If you're not sure what this is it's when you buy a domain and test the traffic for a set amount of time and if your not happy with the traffic you can get a refund or partial refund of your handreg fee.

One thing I see all the time is: Domain tasting is dead! No it's not!

Yes; it might not be as prevalent as it once used to be but there are companies out there that still allow it. How do I know this? Because I do it.

#8. Can I promote or advertise my parked domains?


No, No, No, No, No, No,No, No, No, No, No, No,No, No, No, No, No, No,No, No, No, No, No, No!

If I wasn't clear let me repeat it; NO!


#9. What do all those backlinks mean from different sites?

(Thanks Martiinko for the info)





*** WORDS OF WISDOM ***

1. Never spend money you can't afford to lose! Consider every domain investment a loss till you make your money back because that's what it is. No one can tell me different on this and the reason why is you are "NEGATIVE" that amount of money till it's recouped.

2. When you buy a domain to park; look to get your initial investment back within 6-12 months.

'When people say you can’t do it ― that it’s impossible ― never lose hope. Just because they couldn’t doesn’t mean you can’t."

— DAVID COPPERFIELD

matt_bodis

So far quite accurate.

Bodis.com - Buy domains | Sell domains | Park domains

.X.

I think it awesome that you want to share some secrets of success. Although i used to make a decent monthly revenue parking, It has dropped significantly since the economy got bad, Or at least i think that is the reason.

We can all prosper together if we share knowledge, I know folks, That isn't the domainer way of norm, But by sharing with each other, We all win!

Let me say this, And this just my opinion, If you are bidding on keywords of ANY contextual advertising company, You are losing money. Unless you are converting 1 cent clicks, That's not happening.

This is a cool thread IMO. And i look forward to learning from it.

evirtual1

Yes this could be a real real ripper of a thread !

Ok lets read some opinions on 'high traffic domains'

What are the best tools for finding them ??

I have always thought many of the high traffic domains offered up for sale are just B.S figures pulled out of a hat ....... perhaps it is just my skeptical nature

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arend

Ok

I have 2 domains which get about 15 hits each per nite.

One get about 4 clicks per nite on average which gives me the grand sum of 7 cents per nite.

The other one I may get a click every second nite. Last night this click earned me 45 cents.

They are both with Voodoo. (nothing against Voodoo I believe they are one of the better ones.)

How can I increase income for a click? To make it worthwhile?

Many thanks

smurge

I can understand how someone might be skeptical about this and you should be as well. However, that being said , it doesn't mean that all big traffic domains are bad.

When I look at big traffic domains that an individual is selling, I have a standard process that I use.(Yes it can be modified)

#1. Why the person is selling? If I see things like; " Need to sell these quick, will cut deal" , it throws up a red flag instantly.

If the domain is generating good revenue then I.M.O. there is no need to sell it quickly. If it's truly a good domain, with legit traffic, someone who has the money will buy it instantly or quickly without you stating it.

#2. After I read why they are selling it I want to see at least 60-90 days worth of history. Now when I say this I don't mean a screen shot of the overall revenue but a 60-90 day, day to day look at it. This helps me see what the traffic looks like each day and what the conversion rate is.

#3. Ask Questions and Get The Facts! If you want more information ask questions. It's your money and you have the right to ask where it's going. If someone is dodging your questions or being extremely vague with their responses,this might be a bad sign.

Find out what you need to know to make you feel comfortable about purchasing it.

'When people say you can’t do it ― that it’s impossible ― never lose hope. Just because they couldn’t doesn’t mean you can’t."

— DAVID COPPERFIELD

evirtual1

So you have no 'exterior tools' used to annalize the traffic, i guess i am saying screenshots don't mean much to me, do you request month by month , day by day history ......screenshots ??

....thanks

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smurge

#1. Where is the traffic coming from? Is it U.S. traffic or foreign traffic.

#2. What is the domain keywords?

#3. Is your domain set to 1 click landers or 2 click?

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I just posted this up top in my FAQ section.

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Yes I will request Day to Day or Month to Month if they don't have them posted.

I will never buy a domain until I see real stats or get the answers i'm looking for. Once again, It's your money and you should get the answers you want and not the ones they want to give you.

'When people say you can’t do it ― that it’s impossible ― never lose hope. Just because they couldn’t doesn’t mean you can’t."

— DAVID COPPERFIELD

evirtual1

Cool i misread part of your previous post

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mwzd

Which provide a higher CPC - 1 click or 2 click landers?

And for CTR, do you use adwords recommended keywords or something else?

How many backlinks are a pre-requisite, or is there some other factor you look at before looking at backlinks?

thegeekguy

@smurge thanks for sharing, its great to have people like you defending the business. I'd like to know what's the best parking companies that can be used for zeroclick?

smurge

2-Click Landers pay more.

A single backlink can be good enough for me to purchase the domain name. When it comes to backlinks it's all about the quality of that backlink.


Regarding CTR, I'm not sure I'm understanding your question. CTR (Click Through Rate)I would like to see 20% or higher. For keywords, if I need to use them, I will pull from Google Keyword tools.

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Zero Click Companies -

I can't really tell you which one has the best services. But I know :

1. Bodis
2. Domainsponsor
3. Parkingcrew

all offer zeroclick. Try them out and let me know what you think.

'When people say you can’t do it ― that it’s impossible ― never lose hope. Just because they couldn’t doesn’t mean you can’t."

— DAVID COPPERFIELD

decades80

@Smurge.Firstly thank you for this outstanding post. I had no idea that domainsponsor pays up to 70 USD per click. I have settlement typos and with all the other companies I was earning maximum 2 USD per click, the same with medical generic typos. I will try it for few weeks to see what happens. I am just a bit confused, what is search revenue? the clicks they are generated through search? Thanks for all the answers.

thegeekguy

@smurge you don't have to answer this: where do get your list of domains to check or you have your own URL scraper?

wellysurya

Question :

Can I always move my domains to park? If I found something better?

smurge

Search Revenue is simply: Revenue generated from clicks on advertisement links.

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I have my own tools that do the work for me however here are a few places you can grab lists from to analyze:

1. Dynadot.com
2. Expireddomains.net - (good site)
3. Namejet.com
4. Snapnames.com
5. Godaddy.com
6. Freshdrop.net - (this covers a majority of the above & more)

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You can move your domains as much as you want to.

'When people say you can’t do it ― that it’s impossible ― never lose hope. Just because they couldn’t doesn’t mean you can’t."

— DAVID COPPERFIELD

Traffiz

Thank you so much for your share !
I have a little question about parking industry,like you said
I also have this feeling domain parking will be dead in 3-6 years(only my opinion).

Free SEO Earning For Domain Parking Business Together

smurge

I think our views are different. Parking will never die in my opinion. What will happen is evolution. Parking companies will evolve into different models.

Example; Zeroclick Models, traffic brokering, etc.

It won't die because there is too much money involved with it.

Found the article! My numbers we're a little off but it shows you that online ad spending isn't going anywhere.

http://www.clickz.com/clickz/news/21...usd31b-2011-22

'When people say you can’t do it ― that it’s impossible ― never lose hope. Just because they couldn’t doesn’t mean you can’t."

— DAVID COPPERFIELD

evirtual1

Are any longtails working for you ?

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Tanners

Thanks Smurge for starting the thread and sharing your knowledge!

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How do you feel about Domainapps.com and Noomle.com as opposed to traditional domain parking???

How long do you usually see consistent traffic from the names with an excellent back link or back links, After all, These names may have been formally developed before drop, And the previous visitors may be expecting to see that site they used to go to, Perhaps causing a very heavy bounce rate to the names with back links????

thegeekguy

@smurge can you give us a sample assesment on a domain.

example: mommiesfaves (dot) com

ibidu

This is my answer to your question:

Let's say a domain has 3 backlinks and from each, it gets 3 visitors daily. By law of averages that domain would most probably get at least 1 click from those visitors - or even more clicks from one of those visitors only.

It's all a numbers game and IMO this would only work well for people like Smurge who happens to have several hundred domains and he picks those domains systematically as well. So this will not work for newly registered domains or domains with no backlinks or type-in at all.

smurge

#1. You can increase your income per click by switching to 2 - click lander's.

#2. Review the keywords that are being used. Are there higher paying keywords, with high global searches, that can be used.

Do that and let me know what happens.

'When people say you can’t do it ― that it’s impossible ― never lose hope. Just because they couldn’t doesn’t mean you can’t."

— DAVID COPPERFIELD

decades80

@smurge. I thought that search revenue is the search revenue which generated clicks too. But here is the catch. I got 0 clicks on 1 particular domain, BUT I got search revenue.